LestaLad Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 I’ve seen a few things saying they’ve won the race now, would be a real shame. 1 1
moore_94 Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 From a few things I have read it seems like they are the only ones to have actually made a formal offer to him, the rest (including us) are still in discussions 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 I'd be absolutely speechless if we've somehow opted not to properly go for him. This isn't a finances issue in regard to not being able to afford him now as all deals are for thr summer onwards and I'm told the fee for Tete is so low that its simply disastrous to miss out and end up paying 3-4 times more for a player of his quality. 3
sacreblueits442 Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 41 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I'd be absolutely speechless if we've somehow opted not to properly go for him. This isn't a finances issue in regard to not being able to afford him now as all deals are for thr summer onwards and I'm told the fee for Tete is so low that its simply disastrous to miss out and end up paying 3-4 times more for a player of his quality. ...we will probably once again spend the summer chasing Berardi!!! We could be looking for the finished article and miss out a quality potential. 1 1
coolhandfox Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: I'd be absolutely speechless if we've somehow opted not to properly go for him. This isn't a finances issue in regard to not being able to afford him now as all deals are for thr summer onwards and I'm told the fee for Tete is so low that its simply disastrous to miss out and end up paying 3-4 times more for a player of his quality. Must be something a miss if all the clubs mentioned have passed on him. Maybe we already have our summer business line up? Edited 30 March 2022 by coolhandfox 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 38 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Must be something a miss if all the clubs mentioned have passed on him. Maybe we already have our summer busy line up? Nothing surprises me anymore with us. In a huge rebuild you need some unreal value for money signings otherwise there's consequences along the way which we've seen time and time before in not getting all the positions we needed to strengthen in certain windows. Without Europe next season we probably need to move nearly double the amount of players on than we sign so we need to have a clear plan in place to do this. Right wing needs to be the priority, it needs to be the 1st signing or at least the main focus on finances and the domino effect of it. 1
MPH Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 Then saying Southampton are set to win the race could also be the players agents way of saying ‘ come on then’ with the bids as, no offense, there’s got to be better teams he could play for than them.. 2
sacreblueits442 Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Nothing surprises me anymore with us. In a huge rebuild you need some unreal value for money signings otherwise there's consequences along the way which we've seen time and time before in not getting all the positions we needed to strengthen in certain windows. Without Europe next season we probably need to move nearly double the amount of players on than we sign so we need to have a clear plan in place to do this. Right wing needs to be the priority, it needs to be the 1st signing or at least the main focus on finances and the domino effect of it. ....was he the player you heard the rumour about, regarding us picking him up in the summer!!!
coolhandfox Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Nothing surprises me anymore with us. In a huge rebuild you need some unreal value for money signings otherwise there's consequences along the way which we've seen time and time before in not getting all the positions we needed to strengthen in certain windows. Without Europe next season we probably need to move nearly double the amount of players on than we sign so we need to have a clear plan in place to do this. Right wing needs to be the priority, it needs to be the 1st signing or at least the main focus on finances and the domino effect of it. I will be disappointed if we do not get a quality RW in. I don't think the squad needs as big a overhaul as some. We have the core of a good squad. Cut some of the dead would and bring in a couple of quality players 2
Sambiasso Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 Likely that we've committed to Lookman as our RW for next season. 1
oadby.fox Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 16 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: Likely that we've committed to Lookman as our RW for next season. Disturbing if true as his best performances have come on the left. He can put a shift in across the front line but even prior to joining he had his best spells on the left. As rotation for Barnes/other positions he’s perfect but the right side, we can and surely should do better - need someone to make that position their own. 2
volpeazzurro Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 34 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: Likely that we've committed to Lookman as our RW for next season. Squad player.
Ric Flair Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 46 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I will be disappointed if we do not get a quality RW in. I don't think the squad needs as big a overhaul as some. We have the core of a good squad. Cut some of the dead would and bring in a couple of quality players In some aspects it does need a huge overhaul as our wage to turnover ratio is obscene, we've a number of players that have been here now 4+ years and naturally have gone stale and then there's the chronic injury issues that mean we might need to move some of the worst impacted on and replace with players who haven't yet been riddled with whatever it is that makes them turn to wet bog roll here. But you are right, the squad is still largely behind the manager and more than capable of achieving top 6-7 which is a fantastic barometer for what we are capable of and it does feel that it's injuries that is the main aggravator of why we have dropped off league position wise for the first time in Rodgers tenure. If we don't have any European football next season then the squad size will be cut anyway, regardless of the injury issues because we haven't the finances to pay for 25 1st team players without a number of high earners being moved on and replaced with younger and unproven players on less money. I think we need 4-5 new players and we need 8-9 moving on - Soyuncu, Tielemans, Perez, Jakupovic, Praet, Mendy/Hamza, Vestergaard, Bertrand and possibly Iheanacho will be off. We need 1-2 new CB's, a new CM, a new right winger and back up left winger. I'm also conscious of the issues with Castagne, Ricardo and Justin. Ricardo isn't now going anywhere but further injuries to Justin and Castagne isn't something we can afford and I do wonder if one of the big Italian sides come in for Castagne for around what we paid for him if we'd let him go, I think he'd want the move put it that way. 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 35 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: Likely that we've committed to Lookman as our RW for next season. Not what I've been told, maybe the back up LW/RW winger but not the priority signing at RW.
volpeazzurro Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 There have been a number of right wingers touted on here as the next best thing since Marhez, some of whom have ended up with Premiership clubs. Likewise, bigs moans when those clubs got their man and we didn't. Not many have actually ripped it up here have they? Possibly our recruitment team know a lot more than some of us. What makes this guy the next best thing apart from his glamorous country of origin again?
sacreblueits442 Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 35 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: Likely that we've committed to Lookman as our RW for next season. ...I hope not...very unambitious if that is the case!!! There is far too big a difference between him on the left compared to being on the right, and if that chasm exist, he surely cannot be considered as the requisite RW. We are going to be very frustrated by him next season should we pick him up for depth in the squad or as an alternative for Barnes. 1
An Sionnach Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 We could get Raphina for £50 million and £120 grand a week if Leeds drop but I just think we would prefer a cheap option. We get a nosebleed above £30 million.
Ric Flair Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 31 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: There have been a number of right wingers touted on here as the next best thing since Marhez, some of whom have ended up with Premiership clubs. Likewise, bigs moans when those clubs got their man and we didn't. Not many have actually ripped it up here have they? Possibly our recruitment team know a lot more than some of us. What makes this guy the next best thing apart from his glamorous country of origin again? The two obvious ones we've missed out on who we were very close to getting/strongly linked are Jarrod Bowen and Michael Olise. Both huge misses on our part, both would I finitely have improved us, especially Bowen whom we held talks with but Rudkin didn't get a good feeling on and opted to pull the deal. 2
Lambert09 Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 20 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: The two obvious ones we've missed out on who we were very close to getting/strongly linked are Jarrod Bowen and Michael Olise. Both huge misses on our part, both would I finitely have improved us, especially Bowen whom we held talks with but Rudkin didn't get a good feeling on and opted to pull the deal. Benhrama as well
moore_94 Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 19 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: The two obvious ones we've missed out on who we were very close to getting/strongly linked are Jarrod Bowen and Michael Olise. Both huge misses on our part, both would I finitely have improved us, especially Bowen whom we held talks with but Rudkin didn't get a good feeling on and opted to pull the deal. Kind of glad we didn’t go in for Bowen when you hear about how big his contract was when he first joined West Ham Still mad about Olise though 2
Dan Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 His contract was big but nothing too extraordinary by our standards - although ours are far too high for what we've actually got particularly for squad players. If we let Tete go to Southampton and half arse this position again this summer my head will go bang. 2
Ric Flair Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 30 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Kind of glad we didn’t go in for Bowen when you hear about how big his contract was when he first joined West Ham Still mad about Olise though How much was it? We've paid Hamza 60k a week on the back of 1 previous pay rise where he'd played a handful of 1st team games for us and Perez was given £90k a week straight off the bat. 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 22 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: I reckon CDK is gonna be our right sided forward option that we go for, even if he's not naturally a right winger. I don't think so, not unless Iheanacho is sold and we decide to go for a kill two birds with one stone option.
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 30 March 2022 Posted 30 March 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, LestaLad said: I’ve seen a few things saying they’ve won the race now, would be a real shame. Southampton seem to good business in getting quality players at the right time from abroad for peanuts. Tete was rated at 150 euro's two years ago when he played brilliantly (carried the team) to beat Real Madrid in the champion's league 3-2 Edited 30 March 2022 by CrispinLA in Texas
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