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The I cant believe it’s not politics thread.

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Daggers

Daggers

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44 minutes ago, Parafox said:

I know what you mean. Having looked again at that graph, the percentage increase is 4% for both utilities and alcohol and tobacco but the actual amount spent is very different for both areas. That said, percentages can be misleading when taken in isolation. 4% for both areas suggests that housing and utilities were already the biggest expense for the poorest 10% and again, I suggest that is down to prepaid metering and, now I think about it, the effect of Universal Credit and the percentage of which goes on essential utilities

The poorer you are, the more you pay - always been a Tory motto.

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Free Falling Foxes

Free Falling Foxes

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Caught a piece of 'Have I Got News For You' and one panelist said, 'This is the worst government in a generation and Labour cannot lay a glove on them.

 

I fear that is so.

 

The Tories may get a bloody nose at the local elections but I think they will be re elected at the next General Election - no matter who their leader is.

 

Sir Keir Starmer does not come over well at all in interviews I think, even appearing passionless. He may be a good Labour politician and even someone the country needs, but it won't happen.

 

Ed Davey does portray competence and desire but would we ever see a Liberal gov't again?  Nah.

 

I sometimes wonder too if the next Labour Prime Minister has even been born yet. If that proves to be the case; then it's unlikely I'll be around to see it happen.

 

The Tories know all this and will continue to be contemptuous towards a huge percentage of the populous yet get back in.

 

What a depressing thought for a democracy. I do hope I'm wrong.

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weller54

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18 minutes ago, NYC Fox Fan said:

It could be worse! You could be like me and stuck with the US government. Man 4 years under Trump was like a hangover without aspirin.

I think he'll run again too...and get back in 😢

Jon the Hat

Jon the Hat

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24 minutes ago, weller54 said:

I think he'll run again too...and get back in 😢

I’m still hoping he gets arrested and charged with something before that can happen.

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Daggers

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2 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Caught a piece of 'Have I Got News For You' and one panelist said, 'This is the worst government in a generation and Labour cannot lay a glove on them.

It's no reflection on the opposition, it's a damning indictment on our electoral system.

 

When minorities motivated by populist statements manage to hold sway in the face of glaring evidence that their choices are crippling society, this is a time when people need to push for substantial reform. It's a time when opposition parties need to come together.

 

Plus, a panelist on HIGNFY is not an authority on the current state of play. Neither am I, I'm just a single increasingly angry man - and I just wish the rest of the country would wake the f up and get f-ing angry too.

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leicsmac

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1 hour ago, weller54 said:

I think he'll run again too...and get back in 😢

 

1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

I’m still hoping he gets arrested and charged with something before that can happen.

I hate to say it, but he's not the worst person among the Repubs that could run and win, either. Some of the others actually appear competent.

leicsmac

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5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

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That Pratchett didn't win multiple literary awards for his writing is down purely to (conservative) literary snobbery IMO.

 

The man had social commentary in a number of places down pat.

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weller54

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Get out there tomorrow everyone and give the Tories a good kicking in the local elections!!...

Perhaps then the party might just turn on that cretin Johnson!!!

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Sampson

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15 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Caught a piece of 'Have I Got News For You' and one panelist said, 'This is the worst government in a generation and Labour cannot lay a glove on them.

 

I fear that is so.

 

The Tories may get a bloody nose at the local elections but I think they will be re elected at the next General Election - no matter who their leader is.

 

Sir Keir Starmer does not come over well at all in interviews I think, even appearing passionless. He may be a good Labour politician and even someone the country needs, but it won't happen.

 

Ed Davey does portray competence and desire but would we ever see a Liberal gov't again?  Nah.

 

I sometimes wonder too if the next Labour Prime Minister has even been born yet. If that proves to be the case; then it's unlikely I'll be around to see it happen.

 

The Tories know all this and will continue to be contemptuous towards a huge percentage of the populous yet get back in.

 

What a depressing thought for a democracy. I do hope I'm wrong.

Labour have been miles ahead in the polls now for about 6-9 months now though.

 

Feel like “Labour can’t lay a glove on them. No one knows what they stand for” is just Tory rhetoric. Just like “Blue Tory” and “Tory lite” descriptions of New Labour were always Tory slogans parroted by the Left in Labour to divide the Labour voters.

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Voll Blau

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1 minute ago, Sampson said:

Labour have been miles ahead in the polls now for about 6-9 months now though.

 

Feel like “Labour can’t lay a glove on them. No one knows what they stand for” is just Tory rhetoric. Just like “Blue Tory” and “Tory lite” descriptions of New Labour were always Tory slogans parroted by the Left in Labour to divide the Labour voters.

It's an especially daft thing to say when Labour's Windfall Tax proposal seems to have been the main talking point in recent days when leading Tory politicians are questioned about the cost-of-living crisis. If you've no genuinely no idea what Labour stands for then you must never read or watch the news.

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leicsmac

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22 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Surely still better than Biden though? 

Depends. Do you like the amount of food and potable water existing in the world right now?

Fazzer 7

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We will have a better feel of the mood in the Nation come Friday. I don't think Labour will make as many gains as they think. Maybe Lib Dems will steal the show.

Foxdiamond

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17 hours ago, Daggers said:

It's no reflection on the opposition, it's a damning indictment on our electoral system.

 

When minorities motivated by populist statements manage to hold sway in the face of glaring evidence that their choices are crippling society, this is a time when people need to push for substantial reform. It's a time when opposition parties need to come together.

 

Plus, a panelist on HIGNFY is not an authority on the current state of play. Neither am I, I'm just a single increasingly angry man - and I just wish the rest of the country would wake the f up and get f-ing angry too.

I have been staggered by the apathy that runs through the British public. Many of the people who should vote for parties other than the Tories don't vote. As you mentioned the populist statements appeal to those with a short attention span. Johnson strikes some crazy chord with some as they see him as a character. We don't need a character but leaders of character. 

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marbles

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21 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

I’m still hoping he gets arrested and charged with something before that can happen.

Unfortunately that’s the entire political strategy of the DNC.

Rather that coming up with a good strong candidate that can find a way to unite the country - they hope the opposition fails.  

Things will never get better, with strategies like this.

 

 

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WigstonWanderer

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It has been said that Americans always do the right thing - after exhausting every other option. I’m hoping there is some truth to this article which implies that having looked over the edge of the democratic cliff, they might be pulling back. Perhaps just wishful thinking.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/04/donald-trump-democrats-republicans-midterms-robert-reich

 

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Tommy Fresh

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7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Happy 7th Anniversary to this tweet.

 

 

 

Like Miliband was some kind of anarchist.

 

Talking of Cameron

 

 

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