Premier League 2022/23 Thread

[HankMarvin]

7 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

From BBC:

 

“A replay suggests Philippe Coutinho was actually onside when the pass came in for his disallowed goal.

 

But because the referee blew the whistle before he shot, it couldn't be checked by VAR”

The goal keeper tried to punch it

 

think he heard the whistle 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

I’ve always said VAR merely transfers human error from the referee on the pitch to the referee in a studio. Also they call at Villa just shows that it’s application in some circumstances is also flawed.

[Super_horns]

Just now, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I’ve always said VAR merely transfers human error from the referee on the pitch to the referee in a studio. Also they call at Villa just shows that it’s application in some circumstances is also flawed.

Last season the assistant would have waited to put his flag up.

 

Think they have been told to do it quicker this season .

[Spiritwalker]

7 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

If it's not corrupt it's total incompetence. 

If it was just incompetence it wouldn’t be constantly benefitting the same teams.

[Ric Flair]

10 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

If it's not corrupt it's total incompetence. 

The corruption comes when VAR opts to suggest the referee to go and take a look at the monitor for decisions that will then favour the big 6. 

[Spiritwalker]

Watching other teams play I can’t help noticing they seem to play with more aggression and urgency,

even the shit teams.

 

 

[Les-TA-Jon]

That horrendous Villa decision is on the linesman flagging early AND the ref whistling. Not much to do with VAR

[FoxyJim1987]

All these errors today are ones that VAR was supposedly brought in to eradicate. There will be no more massive calls got wrong because we will have replays. What kind of morons have they got on VAR though to get these decisions wrong. On another note, the amount of soft could where players win the ball and a foul is given is mental. That Gundogan one at the end, he wins the ball in the area off Digne but a fouls given.

[FoxyJim1987]

1 minute ago, Spiritwalker said:

Watching other teams play I can’t help noticing they seem to play with more aggression and urgency,

even the shit teams.

 

 

It's true, although Villa were very lucky, City missed some big chances. On the whole we are where we deserve to be, rooted to the bottom.

[Parafox]

25 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Bet you wouldn't have noticed him if he was clean shaven and had short hair 😂

Could say the same about Jesus 

[Flappit]

12 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

You have to except it now ....It's part of the rules now...refs have to favor the scummy top 6 and make sure they don't lose 🙄

"accept", just so you know. It does look worryingly like the sky 6 get a lot more benefit of the doubt than the rest though. 

[FoxyJim1987]

5 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said:

If it was just incompetence it wouldn’t be constantly benefitting the same teams.

Don't talk wet. In that split second of the linesman putting his flag up against Coutinho, he's not doing it thinking haha come on Man City. 

[Parafox]

19 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

From BBC:

 

“A replay suggests Philippe Coutinho was actually onside when the pass came in for his disallowed goal.

 

But because the referee blew the whistle before he shot, it couldn't be checked by VAR”

That's a ridiculous rule.

 

I thought VAR was there to check for the clear and obvious error. Surely that incident is exactly that.

[Spiritwalker]

1 minute ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Don't talk wet. In that split second of the linesman putting his flag up against Coutinho, he's not doing it thinking haha come on Man City. 

In not talking about that one incident.

[HybridFox]

6 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

That horrendous Villa decision is on the linesman flagging early AND the ref whistling. Not much to do with VAR

Finally some common sense

[Dan]

VAR is a failed experiment. It's taken away more than it's brought, as predicted.

[Bordersfox]

ESPN have compiled a league table of who benefited most from VAR last season.  

 

For some reason the link doesn't seem to copy here, I'm probably incompetent.  It's easy enough to Google.

 

Liverpool are top. But it's then West Ham.  Followed by Brentford and Arsenal (equal). Then Southampton and Man City equal.  Then Watford.  All looks fairly innocuous. 

 

Overall the evidence this presents does not suggest a conspiracy.  

[Parafox]

27 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Last season the assistant would have waited to put his flag up.

 

Think they have been told to do it quicker this season .

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Not an easy job for any official. VAR was supposed to help them. In some cases it's worked well. In so many others it's been debatable as far as it's "help" is concerned. 

I cannot accept that officials are corrupt. They'd be found out and dismissed.

Edited 3 September 2022 by Parafox

[Lambert09]

1 minute ago, Dan LCFC said:

VAR is a failed experiment. It's taken away more than it's brought, as predicted.

don’t be fooled, it wasn’t brought in to help the game, it was brought in to make sure bad decisions don’t go against the big teams… it’s as simple as that. They wanted a chance to undo errors for certain teams without giving them every call. The evidence was there in the first season when man u got a record breaking ammount of penalty’s with only 3/4 being definite pens 

[ALC Fox]

So we've now seen Bournemouth pick up four points since losing 9-0 and sacking their manager, and now Villa show some guts and determination to pick up a point against Man City (and could've got all three).

 

So, it begs the question: Can Rodgers inspire this squad when he's clearly angling for a sacking and a payoff? Is he capable of getting these players to dig in and get results when not expected to do so?

 

Paying off the manager will be a huge hit but with the Fofana money to cover it plus the hiring of a new guy, is it worth bringing someone in on the proviso that they'll have to work with what they've got until next summer?

[Parafox]

6 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said:

In not talking about that one incident.

Go on then...? The rest.

I don't buy the FA/referee cult conspiracy to favour the top teams. We just don't have the officials with the quality to get 95% of decisions correct. I think the quality of the training of FA refs is a root of the problem

[Parafox]

7 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

don’t be fooled, it wasn’t brought in to help the game, it was brought in to make sure bad decisions don’t go against the big teams… it’s as simple as that. They wanted a chance to undo errors for certain teams without giving them every call. The evidence was there in the first season when man u got a record breaking ammount of penalty’s with only 3/4 being definite pens 

Ridiculous. Fans were saying refs favoured the "big teams" way before VAR.

Edited 3 September 2022 by Parafox

[Cincinnati Fox]

20 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said:

Watching other teams play I can’t help noticing they seem to play with more aggression and urgency,

even the shit teams.

 

 

Rodgers liked control. Ie sideways and backwards

Edited 3 September 2022 by Cincinnati Fox

[Super_horns]

13 minutes ago, Parafox said:

That's a ridiculous rule.

 

I thought VAR was there to check for the clear and obvious error. Surely that incident is exactly that.

Not once the ref has blown up so really they should have waited as happened last season .

[Super_horns]

11 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Not an easy job for any official. VAR was supposed to help them. In some cases it's worked well. In so many others it's been debatable as far as it's "help" is concerned. 

Too subjective for me .

 

Basically it’s just another ref making a decision on his own view of something.

 

And maybe refs on the pitch feel under pressure from the VAR as generally they doing go against it? 

Edited 3 September 2022 by Super_horns