Danny Ward

[Lichfieldfox.]

1 minute ago, worthosoriginals said:

Can she play in goal?

She's strong, organised and can lead but is only 5'8". Worth a go.

[ParkerPen]

[jamfox]

8 hours ago, Gubbins said:

If you were as s£it at your job for as long as Ward you'd probably be sacked for gross misconduct. The guy cannot perform the main job of a goalkeeper which is to make saves. He's absolutely terrible at it. Other terrible gks are often defended with the line 'well hes a good shot stopper...' but you literally cannot say this about Ward its prob the worst part of his game and hes crap at everything else as well!!! This isnt cos hes unpopular or nervous, hes just inherently awful. Christ of the 4 shots he faced yesterday the only one he did save was after the fans turned on him! There is literally no excuse for playing him. Don't wanna play iverson for whatever reason than play the u21 keeper, the u 18, emergency loan... anything , a bloody mammal with a head! Just not him.

Yeh , But I want the best possible chance of winning a game of football.

psychological and neurological studies demonstrate that abusing and booing Somebody will make their performance worse , And to be honest, this is actually common bloody sense!  And actually they're a hell of a lot of people that are terrible at their job that is still doing it , I know a guy who works for public institution maintenance team. He's only constructive. Contribution is getting chips on a Friday he's pissed most days , And the reaction to this is to ask him if they can help him I'm say sorry they're not supporting him enough. 

But for The biggest question is what are you hoping to achieve ? You're not even denying that. It's probably going to make his  performance worse ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dillonpanthers87]

2 minutes ago, jamfox said:

Yeh , But I want the best possible chance of winning a game of football.

psychological and neurological studies demonstrate that abusing and booing Somebody will make their performance worse , And to be honest, this is actually common bloody sense!  And actually they're a hell of a lot of people that are terrible at their job that is still doing it , I know a guy who works for public institution maintenance team. He's only constructive. Contribution is getting chips on a Friday he's pissed most days , And the reaction to this is to ask him if they can help him I'm say sorry they're not supporting him enough. 

But for The biggest question is what are you hoping to achieve ? You're not even denying that. It's probably going to make his  performance worse ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

None of that/this is acceptable and if it takes some harsh words to be said in the meantime, it saves longer term pain for all parties.

 

Do you think this is helping Wards career? Or health?

[Gamble92]

It's a talking point on TALKSPORT about us booing/jeering him and surprise surprise they couldn't be more out of touch with the situation if they tried. Yet another chance for Adrian Durham to spout shit about Leicester. He never has a good word to say about us, maybe some weird Peterborough thing. 

 

We're being called entitled again because of the Premier League win. God forbid we want a goalkeeper to save chances of 0.04 xG

 

My god you entitled bunch. 

[jamfox]

11 minutes ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

None of that/this is acceptable and if it takes some harsh words to be said in the meantime, it saves longer term pain for all parties.

 

Do you think this is helping Wards career? Or health?

The behaviour of the individual that is drunk at work is completely unacceptable , I didn't say I was acceptable. I just pointed out that plenty of people do a bad job and don't get sacked and gave you an extreme example. He should have been put on a performance review and sacked. 

And I would apply exactly the same logic to Danny ward , except it doesn't work like that does it??  Oh only if it were that Fu£king simple. 

The idea that we are helping is health ( I assuming me mental health)  by booing him is possibly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my entire life

So if I get this right..

Your logic is / boo him so he knows he is shi£ this will be a relief to him !!

And then we can go are separate ways?  

I am not saying he doesn't need taking on one side and explaining that his performances are not good enough and that it is best for both parties that he unless the lcfc part company. We both agree on that. It's kind of obvious. It's just not how it works in the real world. Yes we need to either get one of the others fit and firing on all cylinders or get somebody else to cover.  

But you are not explaining how bowing him on the pith makes any difference to the above situation? 

And critically how it doesn't make him worse. Therefore giving us less chance of winning the football game. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lako42]

12 hours ago, RedSoxUK said:

Are we possibly close to Danny refusing to play?

 

There's absolutely zero chance he stays mince pie and alcohol free over the next few days anyway, I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn up wasted. 

Surely he's always been wasted 

[dillonpanthers87]

25 minutes ago, jamfox said:

The behaviour of the individual that is drunk at work is completely unacceptable , I didn't say I was acceptable. I just pointed out that plenty of people do a bad job and don't get sacked and gave you an extreme example. He should have been put on a performance review and sacked. 

And I would apply exactly the same logic to Danny ward , except it doesn't work like that does it??  Oh only if it were that Fu£king simple. 

The idea that we are helping is health ( I assuming me mental health)  by booing him is possibly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my entire life

So if I get this right..

Your logic is / boo him so he knows he is shi£ this will be a relief to him !!

And then we can go are separate ways?  

I am not saying he doesn't need taking on one side and explaining that his performances are not good enough and that it is best for both parties that he unless the lcfc part company. We both agree on that. It's kind of obvious. It's just not how it works in the real world. Yes we need to either get one of the others fit and firing on all cylinders or get somebody else to cover.  

But you are not explaining how bowing him on the pith makes any difference to the above situation? 

And critically how it doesn't make him worse. Therefore giving us less chance of winning the football game. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand your point, at least some of it, and I don't entirely disagree. But the more the fans voice their disagreement, although it's horrible, the quicker we rip the plaster off. If we all turned up at the next home game and cheered him like a gladiator, would he be a better goalkeeper? 

[jamfox]

1 minute ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

I understand your point, at least some of it, and I don't entirely disagree. But the more the fans voice their disagreement, although it's horrible, the quicker we rip the plaster off. If we all turned up at the next home game and cheered him like a gladiator, would he be a better goalkeeper? 

Well, if we cheered him from the rafters I think he would know we were taking the pis@   I wouldn't say that we should encourage or reward his performance on the pitch when it's clearly terrible But you don't have to go from one extreme to the other?

And  Yes I believe the evidence of sports,  psychology and neuroscience would suggest that negative and hostile feedback from your own fans has a high probability of making the performance worse. Especially when relevant to a goalkeeper. 

Once he's off the page and in the dressing room all the managers office , Then by all means rip the plaster with a sledgehammer. 

On the pitch? It's just making everything worse and that is the last thing we need. 

 

 

[CPepFox]

7 minutes ago, jamfox said:

Well, if we cheered him from the rafters I think he would know we were taking the pis@   I wouldn't say that we should encourage or reward his performance on the pitch when it's clearly terrible But you don't have to go from one extreme to the other?

And  Yes I believe the evidence of sports,  psychology and neuroscience would suggest that negative and hostile feedback from your own fans has a high probability of making the performance worse. Especially when relevant to a goalkeeper. 

Once he's off the page and in the dressing room all the managers office , Then by all means rip the plaster with a sledgehammer. 

On the pitch? It's just making everything worse and that is the last thing we need. 

 

 

I'm sorry, I don't buy into this physiological harm deal. I played GK in college and long after. I work my ass off in my trade, and am damn good at what I do. Ward is paid handsomely as a PROFESSIONAL GK, and he cannot stop shots that I'd have probably gotten a hand on some 27 years ago in college. If his pay doesn't cover his mental health, we'll TO FUC÷ING BAD! Grow a pair and man up! He is paid to stop shots, direct the defense, alert to problems, and keep clean sheets... he fails at all... therefore boo him... fans pay for performance, and he's failed miserably! 

[Tom12345]

Geeze.

 

I missed the Wolves game entirely as I was travelling and when I saw the score I refused to watch highlights until now. Of course, watching highlights is not a great way of analyzing performance, but did Ward make a single proper save? From the highlights, he should have kept all 3 goals out. Calamity defending.

 

Otherwise it feels like Wolves had no proper chance and we had the better chances overall?

 

 

[CPepFox]

@Tom12345 our firm was poor from the initial kick... Vardy had a chance early, had he been able to get a good touch maybe risky different outcome.. D was atrocious, being kind, but IMO this was more a shock of having Ward back on pitch.. he illicits no confidence and commands nothing... think the D was bad pronation because of his being on pitch... GK MUST command and ensure safety... ward gives neither

[Jattdogg]

1 hour ago, Tom12345 said:

Geeze.

 

I missed the Wolves game entirely as I was travelling and when I saw the score I refused to watch highlights until now. Of course, watching highlights is not a great way of analyzing performance, but did Ward make a single proper save? From the highlights, he should have kept all 3 goals out. Calamity defending.

 

Otherwise it feels like Wolves had no proper chance and we had the better chances overall?

 

 

He saved his hands from touching the ball if that counts?

[Gubbins]

3 hours ago, jamfox said:

Yeh , But I want the best possible chance of winning a game of football.

psychological and neurological studies demonstrate that abusing and booing Somebody will make their performance worse , And to be honest, this is actually common bloody sense!  

But for The biggest question is what are you hoping to achieve ? You're not even denying that. It's probably going to make his  performance worse ?

 

I want the best chance of winning a game of football too and a guaranteed way to achieve that is to have Danny Ward out of the sodding team. That i think is what we all want to achieve and If it takes booing him to get the idiot in charge to realise that then so be it.

 

He didn't start getting directly booed en masse until he let the 3rd goal/shot through him and that must have had some positive effect as he actually saved the only other shot he faced!

 

[420Hashish]

2 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

Geeze.

 

I missed the Wolves game entirely as I was travelling and when I saw the score I refused to watch highlights until now. Of course, watching highlights is not a great way of analyzing performance, but did Ward make a single proper save? From the highlights, he should have kept all 3 goals out. Calamity defending.

 

Otherwise it feels like Wolves had no proper chance and we had the better chances overall?

 

 

I'm in the same boat. Didn't want to see the goals but I had to see it after seeing how angry everyone was. That 2nd goal is beyond wtf. 

[PhillippaT]

2 hours ago, CPepFox said:

I'm sorry, I don't buy into this physiological harm deal. I played GK in college and long after. I work my ass off in my trade, and am damn good at what I do. Ward is paid handsomely as a PROFESSIONAL GK, and he cannot stop shots that I'd have probably gotten a hand on some 27 years ago in college. If his pay doesn't cover his mental health, we'll TO FUC÷ING BAD! Grow a pair and man up! He is paid to stop shots, direct the defense, alert to problems, and keep clean sheets... he fails at all... therefore boo him... fans pay for performance, and he's failed miserably! 

You occasionally see the odd sportsman/woman that makes you think that anyone could do the job, if only they'd chosen to   (I could have been a goalie and/or tennis player, but... (I like eating non-healthy food too much for any of that, and am far too lazy, so  ))

[Tom12345]

4 minutes ago, 420Hashish said:

I'm in the same boat. Didn't want to see the goals but I had to see it after seeing how angry everyone was. That 2nd goal is beyond wtf. 

Yeah, it was just really bad.

[CrazyKopCorner]

14 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Disappointing to see from a few in the media that the biggest issue with Ward yesterday is that he was booed and not that he was actually being played again after the relegation season

I was pleased he was booed. 

 

These fuchers need to know it's no where near good enough and it restored my faith that there is at least some passion in some of our fanbase. 

[CrazyKopCorner]

That first goal barely made the net it was going so slow. I was almost right behind it and I could have run on and kicked it off the line. 

 

The 2nd there's about 3 mistakes in 1 from Ward - not reading of the game, doesn't attack the ball, goes down way too soon and then takes his eye off of the ball (seemed too concerned with the Wolves player the coward) and doesn't respond to what obviously is a bouncing ball - Literally a child could have saved it 

 

The 3rd just shows how truly terrible he is. Another tepid shot he should have held never mind palm it in 

 

I appreciate others most notably Yann (1st), JJ (2nd) did not help but that is why you have a goalkeeper - None of those goals should have caused any real issues and if Madds would have played would have barely been talking points. 

 

The hugely frustrating thing was that it was so foreseeable - I was talking before the game and would have been pleased with just one howler from the big goon. 

Edited 24 December 2024 by CrazyKopCorner

[CrazyKopCorner]

14 hours ago, Diggler90 said:

First goal is on Vestegaard - doesn’t attack the ball and lets it run through. 
 

Second goal is on JJ - you don’t let that ball run across you when you are on the edge of your own box.

 

Third goal the defending is poor again but Ward should definitely do better with the save.

 

I don’t rate Ward but the pile on against him is a joke. None of the back 4 are good enough and offer little protection, Ayew’s performance was a disgrace yesterday and none of them are getting anywhere near the same criticism.

Hmmmnn that's more than a generous interpretation of the goals in defence of Ward. 

 

Yes 2 of the players you mention are contributory factors but really ANY professional goalkeeper should have saved all 3. 

 

Madds plays and they're not even talking points never mind goals. 

 

I agree none of the back 4 are good enough and Ayew was simply breathtakingly shite - why he's allowed to continually start games is a Ruud mystery. 

 

I'd get rid of almost the entire squad & manager and start again 

 

 

[Dan]

7 hours ago, jamfox said:

Yeh , But I want the best possible chance of winning a game of football.

psychological and neurological studies demonstrate that abusing and booing Somebody will make their performance worse , And to be honest, this is actually common bloody sense!  And actually they're a hell of a lot of people that are terrible at their job that is still doing it , I know a guy who works for public institution maintenance team. He's only constructive. Contribution is getting chips on a Friday he's pissed most days , And the reaction to this is to ask him if they can help him I'm say sorry they're not supporting him enough. 

But for The biggest question is what are you hoping to achieve ? You're not even denying that. It's probably going to make his  performance worse ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The game was already lost anyway (well it was from the minute he named Ward) and people have no other way to express their dissatisfaction. The club have yet again taken the piss of the fans by playing Ward - how are they meant to react?

[murphy]

10 hours ago, jamfox said:

Yeh , But I want the best possible chance of winning a game of football.

psychological and neurological studies demonstrate that abusing and booing Somebody will make their performance worse , And to be honest, this is actually common bloody sense!  And actually they're a hell of a lot of people that are terrible at their job that is still doing it , I know a guy who works for public institution maintenance team. He's only constructive. Contribution is getting chips on a Friday he's pissed most days , And the reaction to this is to ask him if they can help him I'm say sorry they're not supporting him enough. 

But for The biggest question is what are you hoping to achieve ? You're not even denying that. It's probably going to make his  performance worse ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you're missing the point.

 

I believe that the idea of booing Ward when the game is already gone is not to affect his performance on the day which could hardly get any worse anyway, it is not to cause him distress, it is to make a protest about bringing in a goalkeeper that has shown himself to be severely lacking in all departments at this level, many times, when we have an alternative. 

 

We have a new manager who may well be unfamiliar with Ward's contribution to the relegation season.  The booing was the fans' chance to say that they won't accept Danny Ward playing in goal again in The Premier League. 

[FrankieADZ]

12 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

It's a talking point on TALKSPORT about us booing/jeering him and surprise surprise they couldn't be more out of touch with the situation if they tried. Yet another chance for Adrian Durham to spout shit about Leicester. He never has a good word to say about us, maybe some weird Peterborough thing. 

 

We're being called entitled again because of the Premier League win. God forbid we want a goalkeeper to save chances of 0.04 xG

 

My god you entitled bunch. 

its the usual lot from them muppets tbf, they just see the highlights or comment on 4th hand info

 

they dont do a tiny bit of research either, like they claim "exclusives" but they just get them off Twitter, 

[Fox92]

10 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

Geeze.

 

I missed the Wolves game entirely as I was travelling and when I saw the score I refused to watch highlights until now. Of course, watching highlights is not a great way of analyzing performance, but did Ward make a single proper save? From the highlights, he should have kept all 3 goals out. Calamity defending.

 

Otherwise it feels like Wolves had no proper chance and we had the better chances overall?

 

 

We had one off the line, that was about it. Wolves hit the post second half as well but by that time they had already sat back. I reckon if they could have been arsed they would have scored 5.

[RumbleFox]

12 hours ago, jamfox said:

Yeh , But I want the best possible chance of winning a game of football.

psychological and neurological studies demonstrate that abusing and booing Somebody will make their performance worse , And to be honest, this is actually common bloody sense!  And actually they're a hell of a lot of people that are terrible at their job that is still doing it , I know a guy who works for public institution maintenance team. He's only constructive. Contribution is getting chips on a Friday he's pissed most days , And the reaction to this is to ask him if they can help him I'm say sorry they're not supporting him enough. 

But for The biggest question is what are you hoping to achieve ? You're not even denying that. It's probably going to make his  performance worse ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I fundamentally don’t agree with booing players and would never do it myself and definitely think it’s unhelpful. He is, however, not good enough and should never play another minute of football for us. 

Edited 24 December 2024 by RumbleFox