The Year Of The Fox Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 9 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: They have been searched I was under the impression they had been too. However, there’s having a look around and there’s cordoning it off for forensics
Raj Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/schoolgirl-attack-video-thomas-college-b2278112.html Despicable 2
nnfox Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 11 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said: I was under the impression they had been too. However, there’s having a look around and there’s cordoning it off for forensics But you can't just send a full forensic team in for every search without any evidence that a forensic team is needed. Better to take a look and if something is found, then send the forensic team in.
Jon the Hat Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 11 minutes ago, Raj said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/schoolgirl-attack-video-thomas-college-b2278112.html Despicable 39-year-old woman, a 16-year-old girl, an 11-year-old girl, a 10-year-old girl, and a 43-year-old man Sounds more like a family than a gang.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 17 minutes ago, nnfox said: But you can't just send a full forensic team in for every search without any evidence that a forensic team is needed. Better to take a look and if something is found, then send the forensic team in. Yeah I know Either way, nailing their colours to the river mast looks to have been a mistake
StanSP Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 1 hour ago, Raj said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/schoolgirl-attack-video-thomas-college-b2278112.html Despicable I find it despicable the attack happened, but even more so that teachers just stood and watched and didn't try and jump in to stop.
Raj Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 22 minutes ago, StanSP said: I find it despicable the attack happened, but even more so that teachers just stood and watched and didn't try and jump in to stop. Yep, unfortunately this is the society we have now. Too scared to intervene, would rather film it on their phones.
LiberalFox Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 Drink, drugs and defrauding the state: the spectacular fall of Jared O’Mara https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/08/drink-drugs-and-defrauding-the-state-the-spectacular-fall-of-jared-omara
Jon the Hat Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 1 hour ago, StanSP said: I find it despicable the attack happened, but even more so that teachers just stood and watched and didn't try and jump in to stop. Expecting teachers to intervene in a violent attack off school grounds is not that realistic imo. They don't get paid enough to deal with the shit in school, let alone trying to police the outside world. Also a teacher got killed doing that not so long ago.
StanSP Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 8 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Expecting teachers to intervene in a violent attack off school grounds is not that realistic imo. They don't get paid enough to deal with the shit in school, let alone trying to police the outside world. Also a teacher got killed doing that not so long ago. Not even to try and stop it though? One of the girls kerb-stomps the black girl! Teachers just stand and watch. It doesn't seem right that they don't even try and break up or help anyone in the fight. Didn't know about a teacher being killed for that. 1
SpacedX Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 11 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: They don't get paid enough to deal with the shit in school, let alone trying to police the outside world. This is a phrase I particularly abhor. You are absolutely correct that teaching staff are chronically underpaid, but attempting to avert an assault has nothing to do with your remit or pay scale. Actually, it is pure speculation that any teaching staff were present. It mentioned bystanders failing to intervene not specifically teachers. 2 1
Captain... Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 2 minutes ago, Line-X said: This is a phrase I particularly abhor. You are absolutely correct that teaching staff are chronically underpaid, but attempting to avert an assault has nothing to do with your remit or pay scale. Actually, it is pure speculation that any teaching staff were present. It mentioned bystanders failing to intervene not specifically teachers. I expect teachers are actively advised not to get involved in violent altercations, regardless of pay. It's always tricky to know how you would react when confronted with something like that, I like to think I'd step in and try and do something. However if there are already people watching and not getting involved spectator mode can kick in. All in all a pretty horrendous episode. 1
Babylon Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 16 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said: They didn’t at any point seal off the bench her phone was on I believe Also, like the SGI guy says, the police giving their river theory means the public may well have taken their eye off the ball in terms of being diligent when thinking back to what they saw or witnessed. I have my own ‘deeper’ theory but I’m not going to put that online. But they did, you can google it and see all the pictures of it closed off in like 20 seconds. It is more nonsense churned out by idiots of Twitter, whose whole basis for it never being Searched or closed off off was based on it now being open.
Babylon Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 40 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Expecting teachers to intervene in a violent attack off school grounds is not that realistic imo. They don't get paid enough to deal with the shit in school, let alone trying to police the outside world. Also a teacher got killed doing that not so long ago. They are also people, can’t believe not a single adult decided to step in quickly. 1
Jon the Hat Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 1 minute ago, Babylon said: They are also people, can’t believe not a single adult decided to step in quickly. There were adults involved in the attack, not just kids. They might step in against some teenagers fighting, but it is quite a call these days to step in against other adults, especially in frankly a rough area. Chances of one or several being armed with a knife are too high imo.
SpacedX Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 21 minutes ago, Captain... said: I expect teachers are actively advised not to get involved in violent altercations, regardless of pay. It's always tricky to know how you would react when confronted with something like that, I like to think I'd step in and try and do something. However if there are already people watching and not getting involved spectator mode can kick in. All in all a pretty horrendous episode. Agree entirely.
Raj Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 It's not about teachers being underpaid etc, it's about human behaviour and values. Watching a kid get the sh1t kicked out of her and people are watching?? Surely enough people were there to stop it and feel safe to do so. 1
Raj Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 7 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: There were adults involved in the attack, not just kids. They might step in against some teenagers fighting, but it is quite a call these days to step in against other adults, especially in frankly a rough area. Chances of one or several being armed with a knife are too high imo. Sorry, just read this after posting and your right of this is the case. Sums up our society then I'm afraid.
ozleicester Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now 3
Jon the Hat Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 1 minute ago, Raj said: Sorry, just read this after posting and your right of this is the case. Sums up our society then I'm afraid. Actually found the video now. Looks like one 15/16 year old attacks the girl, they are fighting and then I guess the younger sisters of the attacker join in, although not to a lot of effect tbh. Mother watching throughout and joins in at one point. The only possible justice here is the mother and they 15 year old end up incarcerated and the younger kids in care. Horrendous family. Also two men do put a stop to it at the end in a calm and authoritative manner. 1
Jon the Hat Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 5 minutes ago, Raj said: It's not about teachers being underpaid etc, it's about human behaviour and values. Watching a kid get the sh1t kicked out of her and people are watching?? Surely enough people were there to stop it and feel safe to do so. Dealing with scummy families like these can lead to a lot of ongoing trouble.
Jon the Hat Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 3 minutes ago, ozleicester said: https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now What a load of shit. 1 1
Raj Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 2 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Dealing with scummy families like these can lead to a lot of ongoing trouble. Yes, my Mrs left teaching at a college in Leicester because of all the grief.
Raj Posted 9 February 2023 Posted 9 February 2023 4 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Actually found the video now. Looks like one 15/16 year old attacks the girl, they are fighting and then I guess the younger sisters of the attacker join in, although not to a lot of effect tbh. Mother watching throughout and joins in at one point. The only possible justice here is the mother and they 15 year old end up incarcerated and the younger kids in care. Horrendous family. Also two men do put a stop to it at the end in a calm and authoritative manner. Good. Sounds like a purely scummy family with the next generation primed to be just as hideous. Hopefully justice is severe. 1
Popular Post ozleicester Posted 9 February 2023 Popular Post Posted 9 February 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: What a load of shit. highly respected Pulitzer prize winning journalist... 5 minutes after i posted it.....did you actually read it? Typical ignorance if it doesn't fit your blinkered view its shit... Seymour Myron "Sy" Hersh (born April 8, 1937) is an American investigative journalist, and political writer.[6] Hersh first gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. During the 1970s, Hersh covered the Watergate scandal for The New York Times and revealed the clandestine bombing of Cambodia. In 2004, he reported on the U.S. military's mistreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison. He has also won two National Magazine Awards and five George Polk Awards. In 2004, he received the George Orwell Award.[7] Hersh has accused the Obama administration of lying about the events surrounding the death of Osama bin Laden, and disputed the claim that the Assad regime used chemical weapons on civilians in the Syrian Civil War. Both assertions have stirred controversy. Edited 9 February 2023 by ozleicester 5
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