Stadium atmosphere

[Fox92]

36 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

To a point but it doesn’t mean fans can’t make it intimidating. It’s just another excuse for shit support. 

I wasn’t referring to atmosphere with my post although I do feel everything about older grounds is more intimidating for opposition players and fans. New grounds are too nice for players.

[Fox92]

31 minutes ago, MS0204 said:

Absolutely, Everton will move to a modern stadium next season and I guarantee even if they are in the championship it’ll be a better atmosphere because they have fans that are up for it and not routined 

Everton have a great fanbase and when they score they are mental but I’m not gonna pretend Goodison has an amazing atmosphere. The fans are really on top of the players at Goodison though, with how old it is, and they will lose that. That was more of my point.

[ajthefox]

55 minutes ago, MS0204 said:

Absolutely, Everton will move to a modern stadium next season and I guarantee even if they are in the championship it’ll be a better atmosphere because they have fans that are up for it and not routined 

 

45 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Completely different level of passion too. They live for it up there.

Everton fans are bitter Nd masochistic bunch but I've found Goodison no better than any other ground for the majority of games barr some good noise after scoring.

 

Move all the stands further away from the pitch, make the stands bigger/reduce the amount of close and reverberant surfaces and split people up and it isn't going to get better.

[BlueSi13]

This might be a hot take but I think civic pride has a huge amount to do with it.  

 

Clubs from around Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Birmingham, Newcastle, Sheffield, London and even Nottingham have a significant amount of local pride and identity.

 

Leicester doesn't have that.  Let's be honest, a huge % of 'home' fans on Friday night would have been making similar journeys as the Forest fans leaving the city (as well as both sets of players).  

 

'Leicester's a shithole, I want to go home' might as well have been sung from everyone in the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 October 2024 by BlueSi13

[worth_the_wait]

13 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

I thought the forest fans were immense and wish I could've jumped in with them, they were having a blast. 

That's really weird, almost to the point of pervy.

 

I mean ... when you're losing an important match, and the oppo fans are taking the p*ss ... it's natural to want to jump in with them and enjoy yourself!     

[Muzzy_no7]

3 minutes ago, BlueSi13 said:

This might be a hot take but I think civic pride has a huge amount to do with it.  

 

Clubs from around Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Birmingham, Newcastle, Sheffield, London and even Nottingham have a significant amount of local pride and identity.

 

Leicester doesn't have that.  Let's be honest, a huge % of 'home' fans on Friday night would have been making similar journeys as the Forest fans leaving the city (as well as both sets of players).  

 

'Leicester's a shithole, I want to go home' might as well have been sung from everyone in the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get where you’re coming from. I’ve always said that most of our fans live in the Shire and not the city.

 

At least a third of the fans in the Forest end are likely living in North Leicestershire not Nottingham itself 😂

[Nolucklcfc]

5 minutes ago, BlueSi13 said:

This might be a hot take but I think civic pride has a huge amount to do with it.  

 

Clubs from around Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Birmingham, Newcastle, Sheffield, London and even Nottingham have a significant amount of local pride and identity.

 

Leicester doesn't have that.  Let's be honest, a huge % of 'home' fans on Friday night would have been making similar journeys as the Forest fans leaving the city (as well as both sets of players).  

 

'Leicester's a shithole, I want to go home' might as well have been sung from everyone in the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

 

For sure and I always refer to Leeds around this point. They have a huge amount of pride in how they support their club and it’s seen as almost a duty to give really vocal backing. It’s not incredible for 90 minutes as we saw last season but they are a proper club. Much like Sheffield Wednesday, there’s a local pride there. We just seem to have lost that. 

[BlueSi13]

2 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Get where you’re coming from. I’ve always said that most of our fans live in the Shire and not the city.

 

At least a third of the fans in the Forest end are likely living in North Leicestershire not Nottingham itself 😂

Maybe building the KP outside the city might have been a better idea after all.  At least the better transport links would have prevented folks fleeing for the exits at 80 minutes.  

[Muzzy_no7]

Just now, BlueSi13 said:

Maybe building the KP outside the city might have been a better idea after all.  At least the better transport links would have prevented folks fleeing for the exits at 80 minutes.  

No no no Stadium needs to stay in the city, we’ve got a decent location where we are, not perfect but better than most other modern stadiums out there. 

[OadbyBlue]

1 hour ago, BlueSi13 said:

This might be a hot take but I think civic pride has a huge amount to do with it.  

 

Clubs from around Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Birmingham, Newcastle, Sheffield, London and even Nottingham have a significant amount of local pride and identity.

 

Leicester doesn't have that.  Let's be honest, a huge % of 'home' fans on Friday night would have been making similar journeys as the Forest fans leaving the city (as well as both sets of players).  

 

'Leicester's a shithole, I want to go home' might as well have been sung from everyone in the ground. 

I think this is pretty common with teams outside of the big 6, from cities with demographics similar to ours. When a good chunk of the city’s immediate family links are from outside the country, let alone the city, there isn’t that nudge to grow up supporting LCFC, attending games. When your friends and families’ relationship with football is watching sky sports, supporting Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, or Man Utd, and playing FIFA instead of attending live football at their local team, it’s no surprise most never pick it up.
 

Villa have a big fanbase, but their fanbase demographics are far from anything closely resembling what you see around most of Birmingham, and other west mids clubs accuse them of all coming from Walsall, Tamworth etc. I lived in Derby and rarely saw Derby County shirts around (see way more LCFC stuff around Leicester in fact), and the Derby fans I knew were mostly from the county. Forest, West Brom, Bradford etc I’d imagine is similar. 

[Corky]

2 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

No no no Stadium needs to stay in the city, we’ve got a decent location where we are, not perfect but better than most other modern stadiums out there. 

Best thing about the stadium is the location. To be able to do the same walk up as before shouldn't be taken for granted.

 

In response to an earlier post about the intimidating atmosphere of the Filbert St Kop, that is a contributing factor to the current situation. I recall many programme notes bemoaning the behaviour of the fans in there and no doubt influenced the decision to put the Family Stand next to the away supporters when we moved. I'm sure the demographic of the fan base has changed a lot, too.

[Muzzy_no7]

I’m not suggesting that this is a major reason but a contributing factor certainly is just how many fans we have banned from our games. We are one of the top clubs in the country for banning orders. 

[SemperEadem]

37 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I’m not suggesting that this is a major reason but a contributing factor certainly is just how many fans we have banned from our games. We are one of the top clubs in the country for banning orders. 

And then the untold number on club bans. 

[iancognito]

16 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Derby and forest have more passionate supporters. Ultimately if you have passionate supporters, people use their voices because it means a lot to them. We don’t have nearly enough 

Because they're two sets of fans that hate each other and spent 14 consecutive seasons in the same division with the same core of support that built up sitting in and around each other having banter and taking the piss out of themselves. We had that to a point in about 2014, then the Great Escape and title season buzz in the crowd was special. It's gone. I don't want to have to reset or spend a few years out of the top flight but I don't know how else we re-ignite the fan base. I hear the conversations from people around us and on the concourse, people turning up for a handful of games or lending their tickets to family just so they can retain their places. Woman behind us for Everton didn't even know who Mavididi was, thought he was "that lad from the reserves". Turns out she hadn't been down since Puel was here and didn't realise Albrighton had left either.

 

I'm not going to go OTT on UFS because they're doing as much as they can but unless the whole of SK1 and 2 goes back to standing, unless we mix the songs up a bit (it's got to be more reactive than just a drumbeat for 90 mins and Leicester Boys Are We starting EVERY game) and unless we get some youth in the stands (our average fan age must be 50+) it's just going to die a slow death.

[anstey blueboy]

On 25/10/2024 at 23:27, Ian Nacho said:

Of course people are entitled to do what they want but people applauding that off is shameful. 

Has anyone mentioned the so-called fans in the singing section booing and making willy puller hand motions at the end of the game to the players on Friday. I know the 2nd half-performance was poor, but proper fans should be trying to get behind the players and get them up for the next game, not making them feel worse than they would, already.

[Nolucklcfc]

14 minutes ago, iancognito said:

Because they're two sets of fans that hate each other and spent 14 consecutive seasons in the same division with the same core of support that built up sitting in and around each other having banter and taking the piss out of themselves. We had that to a point in about 2014, then the Great Escape and title season buzz in the crowd was special. It's gone. I don't want to have to reset or spend a few years out of the top flight but I don't know how else we re-ignite the fan base. I hear the conversations from people around us and on the concourse, people turning up for a handful of games or lending their tickets to family just so they can retain their places. Woman behind us for Everton didn't even know who Mavididi was, thought he was "that lad from the reserves". Turns out she hadn't been down since Puel was here and didn't realise Albrighton had left either.

 

I'm not going to go OTT on UFS because they're doing as much as they can but unless the whole of SK1 and 2 goes back to standing, unless we mix the songs up a bit (it's got to be more reactive than just a drumbeat for 90 mins and Leicester Boys Are We starting EVERY game) and unless we get some youth in the stands (our average fan age must be 50+) it's just going to die a slow death.

I think it’s already dead unfortunately with a handful of good atmospheres a season. 

[Muzzy_no7]

On 26/10/2024 at 15:21, AKCJ said:

Atmosphere always relies on the players turning up. Always has and always will.

Only just seen this comment.

 

Jeepers. 

[davieG]

Let the debate begin.

[AKCJ]

48 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Only just seen this comment.

 

Jeepers. 

Only just seen this comment.

 

Jeepers.

[Muzzy_no7]

28 minutes ago, davieG said:

Let the debate begin.

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Our away support is mid. 
 

Home is sh*te

[Corky]

5 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Ipswich, Everton and Liverpool 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

Our away support is mid. 
 

Home is sh*te

What is that even based on? They seem to have forgotten Derby too.

[KrefelderFox666]

8 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

I was asking whether you were there chanting throughout as there were times when tbh other than shouts of encouragement or exasperation, there were no audible chants, particularly when we were 3-1 down so I’m not sure even you were actually following your call to arms. Or were you even there? 

To answer your question, no I wasn't. Not through my choice and I will leave it at that.

 

However, have been at front of section since it started and do give 90 mins of backing. There is no doubt that there have been games where even there it's gone flat, we regularly address this within UFS as well. So it's not perfect but generally, it is 90 mins of support. For the atmosphere to improve, it needs a lot more people to have that mindset. Back the team even when the football might be uninspiring, trust me, it makes the matchday experience much more enjoyable. If it wasn't for the section/UFS I would likely have given up spending money/wasting my time. The matchday experience is not as enjoyable without it.

[FoxesTalker]

7 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Modern grounds are so easy to be an opponent in. They are to nice.

That obviously depends on a variety of factors, but it's a valid point in general.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Multiple reasons, soulless bowl doesn't help, team was pretty crap on the pitch.

 

The main issue is the expansion not happening, we've had 10 years with no young keen lads joining up or regularly attending games, which has caused us massive harm, but this is what the club want, a tame family day out. Honesty flags, fan cam, it's all crap. Likewise with the over the top policing, just puts people off.

 

The young lads who were keen are now 10 years older and probably can't be arsed as much anymore, will join in but not 100% like they would 5 or 6 years ago. There's also that feeling that we've been there and seen it all as well.

 

Club has zero interest in helping Union FS or improving the atmosphere, best we've ever had from them is clappers Safe standing has been spoken about for 10 years, there's been no attempt to get it any further down the line.

[Arkie Bennett]

5 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

No no no Stadium needs to stay in the city, we’ve got a decent location where we are, not perfect but better than most other modern stadiums out there. 

Agreed. I don't live in the King Richard's Road area like I did when my dad took me to matches as a kid, but I park round there and take the same walk to the ground, including passing the place on New Park Street where my grandad died on his walk to work in 1974. That part of my journey to the KP has meaningful and resonant links to my past, and carries the same hope and excitement as it did when I was a lad. Sad, maybe, but it means a lot to me.