Rudkin

[Wymsey]

Am sure he's more intelligent than how he's being perceived.

Perhaps he should be managing the Academy again, for which he had a strong reputation beforehand - although he's possibly past that now.

Edited 13 July 2025 by Wymsey

[Bordersfox]

3 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Am sure he's more intelligent than how he's being perceived.

Perhaps he should be managing the Academy again, for which he had a strong reputation beforehand - although he's possibly past that now.

Not a chance. The best we can hope for is he's kicked upstairs into a more ceremonial role and a proper Sporting Director is appointed as per one of the Foxes Trust asks.  

[Parafox]

7 hours ago, grth2004 said:

Doesn’t that mean she’s still responsible for the finances of the club 🤔

She gets off very lightly here. 

 

Surely the CEO gets a final look at anything major that the board proposes?

 

 

Edited 13 July 2025 by Parafox

[grth2004]

51 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

Surely the CEO gets a final look at anything major that the board proposes?

 

 

Kevin Davies - Financial Director 

Susan Whelan - CEO

 

 Both of them in a way more responsible than Rudkin for the financial mess we’re in but never ever explain or apologise for the catastrophe they have caused and no one here seems to mention it as we prefer to aim everything at Rudkin. 
No I’m not Rudkins mate 😁 just need to spread the 💩 

Edited 13 July 2025 by grth2004

[slymunn]

7 hours ago, sishades said:

The same Brentford who have let their manager and best rwo players leave?

People mentioned that last year when Ivan Toney and David Raya left, but they improved.

[Lesta Legend]

6 minutes ago, slymunn said:

People mentioned that last year when Ivan Toney and David Raya left, but they improved.

They have a system they rely on to replace the stats of the players that have left, to try and replace the goals and assists. If it works or not is the unknown, it’s not an exact science but it’s working. 
 

The fact they don’t have a gaping PSR problem because they sell players and don’t offer massive contracts to players is where they’re evidently doing it right and we’re not. They’re doing that and remain in the premier league so one club is getting it right at board level. 

[trooky]

4 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

They have a system they rely on to replace the stats of the players that have left, to try and replace the goals and assists. If it works or not is the unknown, it’s not an exact science but it’s working. 
 

The fact they don’t have a gaping PSR problem because they sell players and don’t offer massive contracts to players is where they’re evidently doing it right and we’re not. They’re doing that and remain in the premier league so one club is getting it right at board level. 

We'll see how well this system works this season now Frank has gone and replace with Keith Andrews. 

[Stadt]

44 minutes ago, grth2004 said:

Kevin Davies - Financial Director 

Susan Whelan - CEO

 

 Both of them in a way more responsible than Rudkin for the financial mess we’re in but never ever explain or apologise for the catastrophe they have caused and no one here seems to mention it as we prefer to aim everything at Rudkin. 
No I’m not Rudkins mate 😁 just need to spread the 💩 

They don’t have much, if any say on footballing decisions so they’re at the behest of Rudkin’s mismanagement.

 

The commercial revenue is dwarfed by TV and player trading income. They might have protested the Skipp signing but they’re not on the football side.

 

Davies has only recently taken the role on anyway - as Simon Capper moved to Newcastle 

[Tuna]

10 minutes ago, trooky said:

We'll see how well this system works this season now Frank has gone and replace with Keith Andrews. 

Fear for Brentford with the players they have lost/are losing

[filbertway]

13 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Fear for Brentford with the players they have lost/are losing

Lucky for them, literally their strongest area is recruitment.

 

If Man U bang 50-60m on Mbuemo it'll be hilarious. He's very much a player who looks impressive as a cog in a well oiled machine. Get him in at Manchester where expectations are higher he's gonna look well off it.

 

Him and Wissa are very replaceable.

 

They've already signed a lad from Holland for 20m.

[grth2004]

42 minutes ago, Stadt said:

They don’t have much, if any say on footballing decisions so they’re at the behest of Rudkin’s mismanagement.

 

The commercial revenue is dwarfed by TV and player trading income. They might have protested the Skipp signing but they’re not on the football side.

 

Davies has only recently taken the role on anyway - as Simon Capper moved to Newcastle 

Thanks for info but Football decisions are not my main problem with the club right now, constantly breaching PSR and what looks like total financial collapse is on top of bad Football decisions. 
Maybe they need their own thread. 
Hopefully Capper is the right man ? 

Edited 13 July 2025 by grth2004

[Stadt]

14 minutes ago, grth2004 said:

Thanks for info but Football decisions are not my main problem with the club right now, constantly breaching PSR and what looks like total financial collapse is on top of bad Football decisions. 
Maybe they need their own thread. 
Hopefully Capper is the right man ? 

The financial situation is completely tied into the football side. 
 

We could double commercial revenue and still be in the shit because we still have a runaway wage bill - we almost get it in control then sign Winks, Coady etc on silly deals and give Vestergaard a new one.

 

In a normal business the board and owner would sack/force the shit directors out. But at Leicester Rudkin lives in Top’s arsehole and that’s how they like it 

[Lesta Legend]

10 hours ago, trooky said:

We'll see how well this system works this season now Frank has gone and replace with Keith Andrews. 

Well yes, but a system that works non the less for a relatively tiny West London club and they’re not afraid to stick and take chances. Frank was just a part of it not the sole reason for their success. They’ll no doubt they’ll lose Mbeumo too. 
 

No doubt if they got relegated they’ll have huge ability to rebuild and properly plan. 
 

In contrast we have to sell to buy, have players that shouldn’t be anywhere near the club again (Faes for example) but they’ll no doubt play in the squad next season, with pretty poor preparation and rely on a relatively unknown manager. I like the prospect of Marti but he’s working with a system that isn’t coherent or actually working. 
 

Being more like Brentford wouldn’t be a negative. 

Edited 14 July 2025 by Lesta Legend

[trooky]

9 hours ago, Lesta Legend said:

Well yes, but a system that works non the less for a relatively tiny West London club and they’re not afraid to stick and take chances. Frank was just a part of it not the sole reason for their success. They’ll no doubt Mbeumo too. 
 

No doubt if they got relegated they’ll have huge ability to rebuild and properly plan. 
 

In contrast we have to sell to buy, have players that shouldn’t be anywhere near the club again (Faes for example) but they’ll no doubt play in the squad next season, with pretty poor preparation and rely on a relatively unknown manager. I like the prospect of Marti but he’s working with a system that isn’t coherent or actually working. 
 

Being more like Brentford wouldn’t be a negative. 

Apart from they've never won the league, FA Cup or finished 5th.

 

Our board have made mistakes but ultimately they have been trying to deal with the financial hole of Brendan Rodgers failing to deliver champions league football twice. 

 

I'd much rather have our recent history than Brentford, even if we spend a prolonged period in the championship. 

 

PSR and VAR have ruined football in the Premier league. 

Edited 14 July 2025 by trooky

[Jon the Hat]

7 hours ago, Lesta Legend said:

Well yes, but a system that works non the less for a relatively tiny West London club and they’re not afraid to stick and take chances. Frank was just a part of it not the sole reason for their success. They’ll no doubt Mbeumo too. 
 

No doubt if they got relegated they’ll have huge ability to rebuild and properly plan. 
 

In contrast we have to sell to buy, have players that shouldn’t be anywhere near the club again (Faes for example) but they’ll no doubt play in the squad next season, with pretty poor preparation and rely on a relatively unknown manager. I like the prospect of Marti but he’s working with a system that isn’t coherent or actually working. 
 

Being more like Brentford wouldn’t be a negative. 

They seem so far to have more discipline that we had, but they also don't have the challenges of winning things and having the entire squad raise their salary expectations overnight.  

[Lesta Legend]

1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

They seem so far to have more discipline that we had, but they also don't have the challenges of winning things and having the entire squad raise their salary expectations overnight.  

Our issue is offering huge salaries to existing average players, making too many poor signings and not selling on our assets prior to them moving for frees. That last part is not acceptable and is large part why PSR has been an issue, if only we had a trusted system (like we did with Pearson & Walsh) that meant we could sell and reinvest it into players that hopefully become assets themselves. But no we spend way too much on the likes of Skipp and Coady on massive wedges, the club never learns as no accountability exists for sub idiocy. 

[mozartfox]

22 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

Our issue is offering huge salaries to existing average players, making too many poor signings and not selling on our assets prior to them moving for frees. That last part is not acceptable and is large part why PSR has been an issue, if only we had a trusted system (like we did with Pearson & Walsh) that meant we could sell and reinvest it into players that hopefully become assets themselves. But no we spend way too much on the likes of Skipp and Coady on massive wedges, the club never learns as no accountability exists for sub idiocy. 

Ayew is worth 8M plus salary.

[Robo61]

12 hours ago, Parafox said:

 

Surely the CEO gets a final look at anything major that the board proposes?

 

 

Not sure that's the case,  the CEO is employed to carry out the wishes of the board (as are all employess) not the other way round.  Of course any CEO worth their salt would express any doubts to the board,  but the untimate decision lies with the board.

[EnderbyFox]

Her: Babe, come over...

JR: I can't, i'm playing golf

Her: But I've got a 30+ year old journeyman here looking for 100k+ a week wages...

JR: 

 

 

[Bordersfox]

4 hours ago, trooky said:

Apart from they've never won the league, FA Cup or finished 5th.

 

Our board have made mistakes but ultimately they have been trying to deal with the financial hole of Brendan Rodgers failing to deliver champions league football twice. 

 

I'd much rather have our recent history than Brentford, even if we spend a prolonged period in the championship. 

 

PSR and VAR have ruined football in the Premier league. 

The murky application of PSR is an issue.  

 

However, it's application to us might just be the best thing to have happened to the club.  

 

Because we've made some truly horrendous decisions this last few years.  Not just through poor scouting but by signing dross, often old dross, on exorbitant wages making sale on nigh on impossible.  And, where we have signed well, too many of those players have walked for free.

 

Those decisions are board decisions, or should be, not managerial.  If PSR has finally forced the club's leadership to start thinking hard about its transfer model and how dire it is then I welcome it.  

 

Not sustainable, not sensible and not defensible by pointing to success which, let's face it, was a glorious freak of sport and which we have singularly failed to capitalise on in order to create a strong, long term club and business. 

 

We should have enjoyed both the league win and now be enjoying the fruits of that success.  That we are not makes the current leadership more, not less, culpable.  

[trooky]

55 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

The murky application of PSR is an issue.  

 

However, it's application to us might just be the best thing to have happened to the club.  

 

Because we've made some truly horrendous decisions this last few years.  Not just through poor scouting but by signing dross, often old dross, on exorbitant wages making sale on nigh on impossible.  And, where we have signed well, too many of those players have walked for free.

 

Those decisions are board decisions, or should be, not managerial.  If PSR has finally forced the club's leadership to start thinking hard about its transfer model and how dire it is then I welcome it.  

 

Not sustainable, not sensible and not defensible by pointing to success which, let's face it, was a glorious freak of sport and which we have singularly failed to capitalise on in order to create a strong, long term club and business. 

 

We should have enjoyed both the league win and now be enjoying the fruits of that success.  That we are not makes the current leadership more, not less, culpable.  

Yes agree, but I don't believe our signings are totally on the DOF and the manager has had a huge say.

 

We've definitely signed some dross but we've also done well with Fatawu, Mavididi, El Khannous and Okoli will probably be a decent signing. 

 

Having said that the transfer policy is a mess  and the signings are definitely based on the managers needs and not on any long term strategy of the club IMO. 

 

Cooper wanted PL experience and I believe Ayew, BDR, Skipp are all on him. 

 

The biggest achillles heel in the club is the DOF role and not having a long term strategy regarding transfers and managers.

 

We seam to have a defined playing style but we're too willing to deviate from this with our managerial appointments. 

 

 

[Bordersfox]

8 minutes ago, trooky said:

Yes agree, but I don't believe our signings are totally on the DOF and the manager has had a huge say.

 

We've definitely signed some dross but we've also done well with Fatawu, Mavididi, El Khannous and Okoli will probably be a decent signing. 

 

Having said that the transfer policy is a mess  and the signings are definitely based on the managers needs and not on any long term strategy of the club IMO. 

 

Cooper wanted PL experience and I believe Ayew, BDR, Skipp are all on him. 

 

The biggest achillles heel in the club is the DOF role and not having a long term strategy regarding transfers and managers.

 

We seam to have a defined playing style but we're too willing to deviate from this with our managerial appointments. 

 

 

Totally agree re deviation and manager power.  

 

But I think that speaks to the club structure.  I agree with @Foxes_Trust call for an experienced sporting director to come in to give us a clear identity and path forward, that is much more sustainable.

 

To be clear I have no issue with failure per se, in sport luck plays a huge role and that's part of the charm.  But things like this current managerial appointment farce months after relegation, Cooper coming in after Maresca and driving very odd signings and so on - I can't accept those because they are symptoms of poor/chaotic/reactive/weak management at the highest level. 

[AjcW]

Anyone know who the other fella in the RudMobile was?

[CL Fox]

Bloke in the buggie is one of Top's minions

Edited 14 July 2025 by CL Fox

[slymunn]

15 hours ago, Lesta Legend said:

They have a system they rely on to replace the stats of the players that have left, to try and replace the goals and assists. If it works or not is the unknown, it’s not an exact science but it’s working. 

In the last 10 years forwards wise they have sold Andre Gray, Maupay, Watkins, Toney and currently have Wissa who may leave this summer.

 

They do very well out of the stats/management of buying and selling as a club.