Rudkin

[blueonyou]

Rudkin clearly has leverage over Top/KP and the price he’s likely already named for an exit isn’t realistic (extremely common in boardrooms across the land).

 

taking our emotions away from our relationship with the club, as an employee, would you quit your lucrative role voluntarily even if you were having a tough time and your performance wasn’t the best? I wouldn’t. 
 

Need to remember the relationship these people have whilst externally is “I’m here and work for the love of the club”. In reality it’s about earning money and building their careers in the same non-emotional way we all do day to day.

[fox_favourite]

8 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

According to some extracts from the commission report the Finance Director identified and said players needed to be sold at certain times to remain compliant, in fact in the first relegation season it was identified we needed to sell in January and we in fact doubled down and signed Souttar, VK and Tete……. It would suggest that others probably including a certain Susan Whelan were raising flags and Top and Rudkin didnt heed those warnings and carried on regardless. 

Shows the disconnect on the board room as well, which is a major factor as well and highlights the incompetence of Rudkin. 

 

We're such a poorly run club. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, 1972 Fox said:

 

 

What a hill to choose to die on.

[dmayne7]

1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

According to some extracts from the commission report the Finance Director identified and said players needed to be sold at certain times to remain compliant, in fact in the first relegation season it was identified we needed to sell in January and we in fact doubled down and signed Souttar, VK and Tete……. It would suggest that others probably including a certain Susan Whelan were raising flags and Top and Rudkin didnt heed those warnings and carried on regardless. 

Unfortunately, there is a defence for that Jan window. We needed something to give us some impoteus to avoid the drop, and the general feeling in the footballing world at that point was to take the points hit and overspend as the sanctions were lighter. Obviously they didn't work out and just screwed us further. No excuse for what continued to follow.

 

If you actually look back at the transfer spend, it's pretty comical/depressing that we were ever in the position where we could sell a player for £70m, barely reinvest, yet still be capable of failing the financial regulations. Buying the crap players for too much is annoying yes, but it's so far below the fact we never commercially capitalised on our change in stature/gave out mental contracts without any attempt to gain a sporting advantage.

[murphy]

I don't know why the antipathy for Rudkin.   Post relegation, there was a comprehensive internal review, conducted by Rudkin himself.  The conclusions were kept secret of course, but I'm quite sure that Rudkin was completely exonerated. 

 

What more do you want?

 

 

[CL Fox]

1 hour ago, Iwebema said:

Excellent haha.

 

I never really understood the defense of "we dont know what he does", I was thinking, thats not a good thing, hes director of football, with a long list of footballing failures and the defense is we dont even know what he does. Brilliant.

 

One thing I do know is the players by and large like him, or at least they used to because he just wants to be their mate, he acts more like an agent than a DOF, giving them bumper pay packets and lots of other luxuries. Arranging tickets and boxes to other big events for instance.

 

But those who truly care about the club and not just themselves hate him, just in short supply of those atm.

Vardy hates him.

[Claudio Fannieri]

22 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Unfortunately, there is a defence for that Jan window. We needed something to give us some impoteus to avoid the drop, and the general feeling in the footballing world at that point was to take the points hit and overspend as the sanctions were lighter. Obviously they didn't work out and just screwed us further. No excuse for what continued to follow.

 

If you actually look back at the transfer spend, it's pretty comical/depressing that we were ever in the position where we could sell a player for £70m, barely reinvest, yet still be capable of failing the financial regulations. Buying the crap players for too much is annoying yes, but it's so far below the fact we never commercially capitalised on our change in stature/gave out mental contracts without any attempt to gain a sporting advantage.

Sorry disagree we should have sacked Rodgers earlier and given ourselves the best chance of staying up. Instead we threw a load more cash at panic buys, hung on to Rodgers far too long, still went down and breached by a whole lot more. 
 

A change in manager in January would have meant Ward and Amartey gone from the starting XI a whole lot earlier, Vardy was being largely unused, it would have been a lot more comfortable. 
 

All that season did was prove how far out of depth both Rudkin and Aiyawatt are. 

[Oldblueyes]

I read somewhere that the club turned down a £10 million offer for Daka. How incompetent can anybody be, the lad was nevèr going to make it at our club and would be lucky to get a tenth of that now fo him..

[dmayne7]

9 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Sorry disagree we should have sacked Rodgers earlier and given ourselves the best chance of staying up. Instead we threw a load more cash at panic buys, hung on to Rodgers far too long, still went down and breached by a whole lot more. 
 

A change in manager in January would have meant Ward and Amartey gone from the starting XI a whole lot earlier, Vardy was being largely unused, it would have been a lot more comfortable. 
 

All that season did was prove how far out of depth both Rudkin and Aiyawatt are. 

Those things aren't too mutually exclusive are they? Of course we should have sacked him sooner and that may (probably would) have alleviated the issues but we probably also would have needed some players coming in to freshen things up, especially since a big chunk were leaving on a free 6 months later.

 

My point is that when we were in that situation, it was understandable they saw that as a calculated risk. Can you imagine the reaction if we hadn't brought a single player in? And lest we forget that they wouldn't sack Rodgers because they couldn't afford to (supposedly). 

 

The financial damage was done long before then so I'm not excusing them for that but I think spending in Jan as an attempt to undo some of the damage was a fair response.

[inckley fox]

3 hours ago, 1972 Fox said:

 

 

Honestly, I think this is unfair.

 

There are some real dye-in-the-wool supporters of King Power who won't admit any criticism of the way our club is run whatsoever. Babylon certainly wasn't that. In fact, back in the days when nearly everyone banged the pro-KP drum, he was often one of the few who'd seriously question their actions.

 

I was a little surprised by the energy he put into deflecting criticism of Rudkin, but I think his point was more 'Look, he isn't necessarily the one to blame here'. And it's worth remembering that Rudkin, for years, was the easy target for people who had bought into the KP myth so much that they simply wanted to point the finger at anyone other than Top.

 

Clearly the debate has long since moved on from this. It's impossible to defend Rudkin or Top with any credibility any more, and Babylon perhaps didn't pick the right moment to say 'alright, screw him then'.

 

But he was one of the best posters on here for a decade or two, and not only did his stance on Rudkin make more sense that what the many pro-Top fans believe, but actually made more sense than those who were rabidly anti-Rudkin due to their past (and in some cases on-going) allegiance to Top.

 

Yes, of course King Power played an important part in our rise as a club, but it was always hugely overstated, and I'd give Babylon some credit for engaging in criticism of them at times when others were still very much on board. Plus, even if people do wish to defend Top, I'd like to them to do it here on this forum, taking part (and losing!) reasoned debates. Otherwise Foxestalk gets to the point where it's just 'the anti-KP' forum, a no-go zone for those who disagree, and not representative of the full spectrum of opinions.

 

Bring back Babylon, I say! AND Rudkin Out!

[Foxy-Lady]

1 hour ago, CL Fox said:

Vardy hates him.

So did schmeichel and pearson.....and probably every other manager since i suspect

[Rubbersoul]

I swear all you hear from people that actually work in football is that he’s seen as a bit of a joke. 
 

If he’s so great why has he never been poached? 

[dmayne7]

2 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

I swear all you hear from people that actually work in football is that he’s seen as a bit of a joke. 
 

If he’s so great why has he never been poached? 

Probably because he's paid vastly over what he should be and is absolutely bulletproof. Even if he was amazing, why an earth would you ever leave a job like that?

[OntarioFox]

3 hours ago, Iwebema said:

Excellent haha.

 

I never really understood the defense of "we dont know what he does", I was thinking, thats not a good thing, hes director of football, with a long list of footballing failures and the defense is we dont even know what he does. Brilliant.

 

One thing I do know is the players by and large like him, or at least they used to because he just wants to be their mate, he acts more like an agent than a DOF, giving them bumper pay packets and lots of other luxuries. Arranging tickets and boxes to other big events for instance.

 

But those who truly care about the club and not just themselves hate him, just in short supply of those atm.

The singular fact that our greatest-ever player is pretty transparent in his disdain for the man say everything "on the fencers" should need to know. No shit he's popular with our squad - they're a bunch of mollycoddled, lazy bastards who are paid a king's ransom for doing nothing of note on the pitch due to the wage structure Rudkin is responsible for.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think Vardy is exactly an angel who's above a little shit-stirring, nor do I think we could have afforded to throw an exorbitant wage at him given what a financial shitshow we're currently in. I wouldn't be surprised if that's part of why he's been hinting at his dislike for Rudkin since that little incident on the balcony at the Clock Tower when his contract was up in the air following promotion.

 

But to see the team you've been the talisman for die a slow, painful death around you, and seeing the sort of contract you earned through near-impossible feats over a decade now handed out to anyone who comes through the door, must make your blood boil if you're someone like Jamie who knew what the team Pearson built acheived, and more importantly what they were being paid before everything went silly buggers post-title win. I'd be very interested to know what the rest of the hangers-on from the title squad post-FA Cup win make of it - Schmeichel and Albrighton probably have their own strong opinions on the man. I wouldn't be surprised if Kingy does too, though he's got to stay diplomatic for obvious reasons.

Edited 7 February by OntarioFox

[MGLCFC]

It's probably been said several times in this thread so I'll repeat what many probably think - If he had a shred of decency or integrity he'd resign. I'd still have little respect for him, but at least it would be seen as doing the right thing. He doesn't need the money and his buddy, Chum Top, would probably give him a decent pension. 

[Blue ROI]

Top last week: Rudkin was the mastermind of our Premier League 

 

This weeks reality: 

[MattFox]

People starting Agro in honour of this weasel today again

[Philkeavo]

We speculate all the time on the Rudkin thread how Aiyatwatt continues to back him. I think the answer is all rather simple, Rudkin does his masters bidding. All the mind numbingly bad decisions are either made by or sanctioned by Aiyatwatt. He couldn’t fire Rudkin even if he wanted to because Rudkin’s decisions are Aiyatwatt’s. 

Edited 7 February by Philkeavo

[fox_favourite]

Well done Rudkin. You have 2 premier league relegations and possibly a league one relegation, clubs first points deduction, cluster feck of contracts for players who don't care on his CV

 

Utter fraud. Get the f***k out of our club NOW 

Edited 7 February by fox_favourite

[Blue ROI]

Your time's up Rudkin.

 

Get out 

Get Out 

Get out.

[Claudio Fannieri]

How anyone can defend him is beyond me, he has destroyed this club and his desire for self preservation means we will only hire  managers that won’t rock the boat. It’s a disgrace he is still in his job and that ‘people’ even attempt to support him. 

[Mista_cle31]

Guys, we really need to act and emphasise how pissed off we are at the running of the club. We need to boycott, protest during games and outside the stadium, to put the pressure on King Power to sell up and sack Rudkin. If we don't, then we will continue to fall down the leagues. Quite frankly I've had enough at what Top and that specky **** Rudkin have done to our club. 

[fox_favourite]

Previous managers dont like him and fell out with him...not even one, many!!!!!, players don't like him. How the hell is he DoF still?! It's not even 1 red flag is 100's. It's such a ridiculous situation!!

 

If rumours are true someone we know wants to come on but Rudkin doesn't want him. 

 

I'm so angry as you can tell 

Edited 7 February by fox_favourite

[lgfualol]

Wouldn’t get a job at any other club at this level, yet continues to be employed despite a HUGE huge list of ****-ups and speed-running the club into bankruptcy. 

[TeppoPortin]

There's no justification for him to still be employed by the club, there hasn't been for a long time.  I read he's the longest serving DoF in the country, he's surely the worst performing one too.