Rudkin

[UniFox21]

14 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

 

Absolutely [I can understand Leicester fans chanting that] after what’s happened in the last few years”, Minto said on talkSPORT near the end of the game.

 

“They’ve seen their club go from Premier League champions, FA Cup winners, chasing Champions League, to being relegated then promoted and just in front of the relegation zone at the moment.

 

“They look like though based on the next few games and their performances that they are going to drop in there quite soon indeed.

 

“It’s not been good enough.

This is potentially the first media person I've seen actually acknowledge why fans are annoyed

[Buzzell]

11 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

How?

Don't know why some think that he's a bully to certain others.

 

[1972 Fox]

16 hours ago, ashbyj said:

Same idiots shushing me when I was shouting Roger’s out the previous season.

Who are these two people to who you refer?

[Viva]

People are far too obsessed with Rudkin. Need to move on and back the team.

Enzo gave a good insight the other week into how well he thought of the owners and Rudkin. They are both trying the best for the team and have made many more good decisions than bad.

We are where we are now and need to fight to try and stay in this league. 

[CosbehFox]

15 minutes ago, Viva said:

People are far too obsessed with Rudkin. Need to move on and back the team.

Enzo gave a good insight the other week into how well he thought of the owners and Rudkin. They are both trying the best for the team and have made many more good decisions than bad.

We are where we are now and need to fight to try and stay in this league. 

Talk is cheap and that relationship majorly soured in July. So Enzo had get his apologises in 

[CosbehFox]

He’s piss poor at his job for the last five years. Zero responsibility is being had this club from top to bottom 

[Thefox81]

Dear Jon

 

If you ever ever read Foxestalk please erm how can i put this nicely. Feck off.

 

Ps. Now

[ian__marshall]

I know it's often asked how we have so drastically regressed whilst others such as Brighton and Brentford have passed us on their ascent, but the difference between Paul Barber and Jon Rudkin for instance is night and day.

 

There's a great interview with Barber (think it's on Sky) where he talks about the inner workings of Brighton and the need for succession planning. The attention to detail from the club is incredible, literally every position from senior leadership, playing staff, coaching staff, and tea lady are planned for. It's no coincidence at all that they are capable of continuously selling off their most valuable talent and progressing. 

 

Contrast that against ourselves where we seem to be in disarray everytime a change occurs it boggles the mind.

 

I think the most stable we have been over the past 10 years aside from under Walsh, was when Macia was pulling the strings. We actually seemed organised and prepared for playing personnel changes which limited the impact of losing our best players. 

 

I was thinking yesterday about how what we are now seeing is the legacy left behind from Rodgers, and there was a lot of talk during the appointment of Congerton about his impact on Sunderland and how he set them back year's, and to a slightly lesser extent (we at least returned back to the PL at the first attempt thanks to Enzo) the similarities are astonishing. 

 

Ultimately all of this has happened under Rudkin's watch and like any business the buck stops with the guy overseeing it all. Consequently he needs to be moved on and rather quickly based on the evidence of recent year's. 

[Viva]

1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

Talk is cheap and that relationship majorly soured in July. So Enzo had get his apologises in 

He didn't need to say anything, but chose to specifically praise Top and Rudkin. Also clearly gave Ruud a glowing report on the club. 

Edited 1 December 2024 by Viva

[fazzyfox]

Didn't Enzo say he wanted a meeting to suggest re-structuring behind the scenes, shortly before he left? His opinion seemed to be that we weren't (aren't) properly set up to compete in the Premier League without it happening or that we'd at least have a better chance and better future. I'm sure I didn't dream this but it seems to have been swept under the carpet and Cooper was hardly in a strong enough position to make similar requests or suggestions.

[CosbehFox]

26 minutes ago, Viva said:

He didn't need to say anything, but chose to specifically praise Top and Rudkin. Also clearly gave Ruud a glowing report on the club. 

PR works well in football. Good to keep all future employers and your agent happy 

[MattFox]

Enzo spent most of his time here indirectly slagging Rudkin and other elements of the club off both publicly and privately 

 

I wouldn’t take anything he says now at face value 

[adam1]

2 hours ago, Buzzell said:

 

Was it a dig at Rudkin, or a dig at the fans (suggesting they don't know anything)?

[Corky]

1 hour ago, ian__marshall said:

I know it's often asked how we have so drastically regressed whilst others such as Brighton and Brentford have passed us on their ascent, but the difference between Paul Barber and Jon Rudkin for instance is night and day.

 

There's a great interview with Barber (think it's on Sky) where he talks about the inner workings of Brighton and the need for succession planning. The attention to detail from the club is incredible, literally every position from senior leadership, playing staff, coaching staff, and tea lady are planned for. It's no coincidence at all that they are capable of continuously selling off their most valuable talent and progressing. 

 

Contrast that against ourselves where we seem to be in disarray everytime a change occurs it boggles the mind.

 

I think the most stable we have been over the past 10 years aside from under Walsh, was when Macia was pulling the strings. We actually seemed organised and prepared for playing personnel changes which limited the impact of losing our best players. 

 

I was thinking yesterday about how what we are now seeing is the legacy left behind from Rodgers, and there was a lot of talk during the appointment of Congerton about his impact on Sunderland and how he set them back year's, and to a slightly lesser extent (we at least returned back to the PL at the first attempt thanks to Enzo) the similarities are astonishing. 

 

Ultimately all of this has happened under Rudkin's watch and like any business the buck stops with the guy overseeing it all. Consequently he needs to be moved on and rather quickly based on the evidence of recent year's. 

Ourselves and Brighton are in similar positions in that a good season could lead to Europe and a bad one might be relegation yet they seem far better prepared for everything. The only time recently we have been decisive and prepared for change is going from Puel to Rodgers. It is ridiculous how we have been run.

 

Looking at the current situation- why wouldn't you just change for change's sake? Nobody wants Rudkin outside the club, we won't lose a coveted asset. We are stuck with the same man, same mindset. The club is stale.

[Viva]

5 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

PR works well in football. Good to keep all future employers and your agent happy 

There's no way he's thinking, I really need to specifically give Rudkin some praise just in case it helps me in the future! 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

10 minutes ago, adam1 said:

Was it a dig at Rudkin, or a dig at the fans (suggesting they don't know anything)?

I guess we’ll never know or we may find out in a memoir or something in 20-30 years time 

[Claudio Fannieri]

2 hours ago, Viva said:

People are far too obsessed with Rudkin. Need to move on and back the team.

Enzo gave a good insight the other week into how well he thought of the owners and Rudkin. They are both trying the best for the team and have made many more good decisions than bad.

We are where we are now and need to fight to try and stay in this league. 

I don’t recall him mentioning Rudkin just singled out Top as an amazing and special person. 
 

 

[Viva]

7 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I don’t recall him mentioning Rudkin just singled out Top as an amazing and special person. 
 

 

This was one of his quotes:

 

‘The owner and his family are fantastic people, fantastic human beings. They care for the players, staff, all the people that work inside the club, and you can see that. And the sporting director Jon Rudkin too.

[Buzzell]

54 minutes ago, adam1 said:

Was it a dig at Rudkin, or a dig at the fans (suggesting they don't know anything)?

Could be either, or both? 🤷‍♂️ 

[CosbehFox]

54 minutes ago, Viva said:

There's no way he's thinking, I really need to specifically give Rudkin some praise just in case it helps me in the future! 

He’s thinking about jobs in the future and his own. If he’s asked a question about his old employers, he’s not going to criticism them is he? It’s a bad look. The club has a right falling out with Enzo and his agent in July - to the point he stopped using his agency for signings 

 

Enzo’s best mate Guillem Balague consistently kept referring to there being individuals at LCFC which would hold him back 

Edited 1 December 2024 by CosbehFox

[Mickyblueeyes]

2 years ago, we needed Rodgers out and rebuild. They chose not to, that falls on the DOF. So last year we needed Rudkin out, the ownership chose not to. So now, for this club to move anywhere and not be ran like corner shop who engages in corrupt practices, ignoring fans and jeopardising the long term future of the club, we need the ownership out. Top is the biggest problem at this club - the rest are just cogs in his poorly oiled machine. 

[Viva]

2 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

He’s thinking about jobs in the future and his own. If he’s asked a question about his old employers, he’s not going to criticism them is he? It’s a bad look. The club has a right falling out with Enzo and his agent in July - to the point he stopped using his agency for signings 

 

Enzo’s best mate Guillem Balague consistently kept referring to there being individuals at LCFC which would hold him back 

No he's not going to criticise them. But you also don't need to go full on with the praise. 

If they had a falling out after Enzo took the Chelsea job, it doesn't change what happened in the 12 months before. I'm pretty sure if hated the way the club was run, he would have told Ruud to politely decline the job offer. 

[HarryDee8]

Was there a lot of chanting from fans for "Rudkin out" yesterday?

[Claudio Fannieri]

49 minutes ago, Viva said:

This was one of his quotes:

 

‘The owner and his family are fantastic people, fantastic human beings. They care for the players, staff, all the people that work inside the club, and you can see that. And the sporting director Jon Rudkin too.

Fair enough I missed that one about Rudkin. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

7 minutes ago, Viva said:

No he's not going to criticise them. But you also don't need to go full on with the praise. 

If they had a falling out after Enzo took the Chelsea job, it doesn't change what happened in the 12 months before. I'm pretty sure if hated the way the club was run, he would have told Ruud to politely decline the job offer. 

Maybe just maybe you can love the club, the players, a lot of good people behind the scenes whilst thinking the guy who is in charge of the football operation is a complete liability and preventing the club from fulfilling its potential. 
 

therefore when he spoke with Ruud maybe he was honest, wonderful club, great owner, however the DoF is out of his depth, so if you join push for a change.