In terms of underperformance, Leicester City in 22/23 is one of the worst Premier League relegations of all time

[Finnaldo]

20 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

It's on Aiyawatt.

Precisely. Club finances were buggered at a time we were told we were self-sufficient outside of KP, and stadium expansion halted when we were told it had no bearings on the club budget, despite once the news dried up the spending on the squad resumed. Rodgers should have been sacked, latest, after Forest in the cup. He only went when things were terminal. 
 

Any other business, or even any other club at that matter, where things fail so badly across three different fronts then the buck would stop at the top.
 

I’m happy for people to say they value the league win & FA Cup over relegation and that they still favour the ownership because of that. It’s a very reasonable stance. But most people will act like you spat on their dead nan if you suggest the ownership have to take fault for relegation, it’s almost taken personally which is bizarre.

[don_danbury]

15 hours ago, Col city fan said:

I did try to tell ya’ll that the defense was fookin gash.. 

Putting 20 quid on us when we were 17/1 to get relegated though, made up for the disappointment.

probably got ignored because it was so bleeding obvious the defence was poor

[Master Fox]

On 02/06/2023 at 11:22, Father Ted said:

No it’s not! Remember we have been overachieving, as Rodgers continually kept telling us. And don’t forget we were in League One 13 years ago so therefore we are still overachieving.

How can we ever forget the league 1 just over 13 years ago. It was that mentality of “stop complaining because we were in league one not so long ago”  that everyone was bleating on about. Which saw our decline. 

 

Brenda Bodgers is a disgrace to football. He should never be allowed to ever leave Scotland again. 

 

Edited 18 October 2023 by Master Fox

[ousefox]

On 17/10/2023 at 07:52, Daggers said:

Really?

 

I bloody hope not. 

I hope. But you know what the media are like with him.

[RonnieTodger]

Madness that being in League One is so regularly used as a measure of perspective.

 

We’ve spent one year there out of 139.

[dmayne7]

3 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Madness that being in League One is so regularly used as a measure of perspective.

 

We’ve spent one year there out of 139.

Definitely. Much like the idea we've always been a 'small' club. No we haven't. Never been a big club but outside 8-10 clubs that have always been in the top flight over the past 50 years and have won things, we're probably then in with another 15-20 clubs that would reasonably expect to have plenty of top flight football with the occasional cup and league (in years gone by) success. Reality is, out stay in the PL grew out profile a lot and given the size of a club also relies on international fans in this day and age, it's no longer unreasonable to see ourselves as a mainstay in the top flight (the reality is of course different).

[Guy]

On 17/10/2023 at 18:52, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Smith was dreadful.

 

Bravery was required and he had none.

 

 

Although Smith didn't quite get us over the line sadly then he stil had an almost impossible job on his hands by the time he was appointed (which was way too late and after the two horror shows v Villa and Bournemouth when the inept Sadler and Stowell were left in charge).

So I'd counter-argue what  youi said in part by saying that Smith's game plan and defensive team selection away at Newcastle in the penultimate game nearly came off and was pretty brave, tactically speaking - and was the polar opposite of how we were inexplicably so pathetic defensively in the away game before it at Fulham, a game that everybody thought was the most winnable from all the remaining fixtures under Smith I think!

 

Yes we rode our luck throughout in that game at Newcastle, the Toon were not at their best and we nearly did 'nick it' at the end had Castagne put away his injury time chance past Pope. Despite the draw against Everton then I also thought we looked  pretty fluent in that 'six pointer' at home before that - and had Maddison not fluffed his pen.then we'd have stayed up of course, as others have said in this post too. We got lucky at Newcastle but then were unlucky in so far the final fixtures suiting escapologists Everton - but I guess we  should have wrapped things up by then in various missed golden opportunity ways. In a way it felt like our relegation was 'meant to be' sadly.....

[Dan]

On 14/10/2023 at 23:30, Gamble92 said:

When he returns in an away dugout, does he get booed?

He should, but I bet he won't.

[Dan]

Smith wasn't very good but still maintain we sacked at the single most ridiculous time. You could write a book on the stupidity of last season.

[Dan]

On 17/10/2023 at 22:12, Col city fan said:

I did try to tell ya’ll that the defense was fookin gash.. 

Putting 20 quid on us when we were 17/1 to get relegated though, made up for the disappointment.

6/1 after we lost at home to Fulham for me. I put in basically whatever returned my season ticket price.

[Foxaholic ME]

On 02/06/2023 at 11:50, fox_up_north said:

Royal cock up. We don't deserve to come back up, either. With greater distance from it, I'm now just annoyed at the leadership. This is YOUR money, not mine. How can you let it happen? 

We went down losing twice in my opinion to the worst two teams in the league  namely Bournemouth and Southampton   and playing Ward for too long   .We also had no shock wins probablly first time ever in the top division  Another 15 points would have seen us in the position most  expected

[don_danbury]

11 minutes ago, Foxaholic ME said:

We went down losing twice in my opinion to the worst two teams in the league  namely Bournemouth and Southampton   and playing Ward for too long   .We also had no shock wins probablly first time ever in the top division  Another 15 points would have seen us in the position most  expected

beating spurs 4-1 wasnt expected. probably our only decent win that entire season. cant count forest as they were crap

[TrentFox]

Jeez, can’t the mods just lock this thread down and label it with a mental health warning? It’s really not good for anyone to be reliving this crap. 

[Koke]

Completely even forgot this game 

 

 

[Beachyboy]

3 minutes ago, Koke said:

Completely even forgot this game 

 

 

Wolves haven't really improved much in 12 months, this is the sort of match that allows me to confidently predict we'd be 14th-15th in the premiership this season, Wolves are currently 12th, yes we have lost Maddison, Barnes and Tielemans, but Winks is more affective for us this season than Tielemans was last season. We have way more wide options now than just Barnes, Maddison is the only real loss, an I'm not sure the team would be functioning so well with a star in it anyway. Add to that Hermanson better than Ward, Perreira better than Castagne, KDH better than last seasons KDH. Vestegaard better than Amartey, an people are paranoid that we will struggle next season, I don't think we'd struggle this season in the premiership we'd just be somewhere in the bottom half.