Enzo Maresca New Leicester Manager

[StriderHiryu]

1 minute ago, Foxxed said:

I can agree that last season they saw the rising wage bill, loss in profit from Tielemans and Soyuncu, and other contracts being run down that we didn't have the money to rebuild in the Premier League.

 

But had the board, Top and Rudkin been competent they would have seen the warning signs--academy involvement, mentality, failing contract renewals, freezing out players, the FA cup blinding people to the state of the football, Brendan making clear signals he wanted out--sooner and sacked Brendan. That's the incompetence.

[Vazman]

7 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

I honestly thought that the interview I heard was awful. I was massively disappointed. He sounded totally befuddled, and offered no sense of vision, clarity or direction at all. And his English is about A2 level, which isn't what you'd expect from someone who'd wow'd people at interview. I know Claudio's English was basic too, but seriously, this guy sounds totally incoherent. Maybe I'm a cynic, but I can't for a second believe that he's been contracted on the grounds that he can do the job that we need him to do. It's about profile, style of play, cheap loans and the fact that he won't be a spanner in the works.

 

He could be up to it. But this feels like a 1 in 20 or 30 shot. There's very little to suggest that this will work.

 

I don't tend to call for managers to go, and I'll be behind Enzo too. But this is a great, great abyss that we've hurled ourselves into. (Hopefully for the better!)

Some people are just not media savvy, we just got rid off a savvy one. 6 I'm only interested in how he does, and am looking forward to seeing him and the team in action.

[weller54]

7 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

I honestly thought that the interview I heard was awful. I was massively disappointed. He sounded totally befuddled, and offered no sense of vision, clarity or direction at all. And his English is about A2 level, which isn't what you'd expect from someone who'd wow'd people at interview. I know Claudio's English was basic too, but seriously, this guy sounds totally incoherent. Maybe I'm a cynic, but I can't for a second believe that he's been contracted on the grounds that he can do the job that we need him to do. It's about profile, style of play, cheap loans and the fact that he won't be a spanner in the works.

 

He could be up to it. But this feels like a 1 in 20 or 30 shot. There's very little to suggest that this will work.

 

I don't tend to call for managers to go, and I'll be behind Enzo too. But this is a great, great abyss that we've hurled ourselves into. (Hopefully for the better!)

Yer but, yer but... He's worked with Pep (who's a genius!).. I'd love to see the likes of Scott Parker win the treble working with the measly budget Pep has been given over the past 4/5 years!! 

You try building a team spending in excess of £1billion and make a success of it!! 

Peps genius must have rubbed off on Enzo surely? 

[filbertway]

6 minutes ago, Lillehamring said:

This is the tip of the iceberg of my great relegation conspiracy theory!

Yes i look for the positives, but i feel that nothing i've said is implausible, even if it's left field.  Sure, it wasn't our board that became billionaires, but they did become champions of england...  you don't accidently build the success we've had in the last decade - and i firmly believe they still know what they're doing, that 22/23 was just an unavoidable blip

You've not convinced me but fair play, you did say it would be unpopular

 

Personally I'd have had the "tactical retreat" in the Prem with the extra hundred million or so in the bank. But I am a bit orthodox in that regard :p

 

 

 

[Gerard]

13 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

I honestly thought that the interview I heard was awful. I was massively disappointed. He sounded totally befuddled, and offered no sense of vision, clarity or direction at all. And his English is about A2 level, which isn't what you'd expect from someone who'd wow'd people at interview. I know Claudio's English was basic too, but seriously, this guy sounds totally incoherent. Maybe I'm a cynic, but I can't for a second believe that he's been contracted on the grounds that he can do the job that we need him to do. It's about profile, style of play, cheap loans and the fact that he won't be a spanner in the works.

 

He could be up to it. But this feels like a 1 in 20 or 30 shot. There's very little to suggest that this will work.

 

I don't tend to call for managers to go, and I'll be behind Enzo too. But this is a great, great abyss that we've hurled ourselves into. (Hopefully for the better!)

 

Do you do kids parties?

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said:

Not just the fans. I imagine the owner will start getting impatient. 

...FT will slowly become worried, they will question his methods and tactics, but the supporters at the gates will not be asking for his head!!!

  The owners are not going to pull the trigger, they were aware of the possible outcome and would surely give him the benefit of the second season. 

[LaCiudad]

Great! Let's go for it and see what happens.

 

Clean slate everyone? Let's stop digging up the recent past

[filbertway]

1 minute ago, weller54 said:

Yer but, yer but... He's worked with Pep (who's a genius!).. I'd love to see the likes of Scott Parker win the treble working with the measly budget Pep has been given over the past 4/5 years!! 

You try building a team spending in excess of £1billion and make a success of it!! 

Peps genius must have rubbed off on Enzo surely? 

Man U and Chelsea spend more....why aren't they winning trebles and cups regularly?

 

 

[weller54]

4 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Man U and Chelsea spend more....why aren't they winning trebles and cups regularly?

 

 

Have they broken 115 FFP rules? 

[The Doctor]

18 minutes ago, Lillehamring said:

Sure - but i'm talking about the situation they found themselves in last season - you have to remember that the BR experiment started off with two of the best seasons in our history after looking like relegation fodder.

 

I'm not saying they are perfect but to brush everything under the carpet of 'incompetence' seems wrong.

 

Regardless of how you read that situation, the fact is that's where they were at, and rather than spunking more money to try to polish a turd, they opted to freeze everything and start afresh this summer - hoping that they'd still have enough to survive but equally seeing the advantages of doing it in the EFL...

When did we look like relegation fodder? 14/15 and the first half of 16/17 aside we were comfortably midtable at least prior to Rodgers taking over.

[StriderHiryu]

1 hour ago, Clever Fox said:

I just hope he shows some passion on the touchline similar to O'Neill.  I hate Managers who just stand there.

Whilst this shouldn't make any difference, it really, really does. Do you remember during the title win Claudio pumping up the crowd? Our crowd consists more of families and reserved people, we can create noise, but it needs the team to stir us up. A lot of people dislike Arteta, but he is very energetic on the touchline and it helps his teams start fast.

[filbertway]

1 minute ago, weller54 said:

Have they broken 115 FFP rules? 

Probably not. 

 

Is your point about expenditure or what though?

 

Man citys charges are all from pre pep days arent they?

 

Not sure what point you're trying to make to be honest

 

[John rayner]

1 hour ago, Larry_LCFC said:

This is either gonna be ****ing incredible or an absolute disaster 😆 

It's going to be incredible, as long as we all get behind  Enzo ,

[Kp1984]

40 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Does g try hat make you some kind of super fan?

it’s a thread about the new manager, why bother telling us how much you disliked Rodgers. 
apologies for quoting you, it’s aimed at everyone who can’t let it go and move on.

You don’t need to apologise mate I have let it go I was just stating he’s a dick . I’m excited bout this guy tho but time will tell 

[Lillehamring]

13 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

I can agree that last season they saw the rising wage bill, loss in profit from Tielemans and Soyuncu, and other contracts being run down and calculated that we didn't have the money to rebuild in the Premier League.

 

But had the board, Top and Rudkin been competent they would have seen the warning signs--academy involvement, mentality, failing contract renewals, freezing out players, the FA cup blinding people to the state of the football, Brendan making clear signals he wanted out--sooner and sacked Brendan. That's the incompetence.

 

The academy was a bit unlucky, they loaned out a fair few players and then had some really key injuries, they were playing at a level well beyond their capabilities. 

The contract renewals is an odd one, you can't force players to sign and if no one comes in for them, you're stuck with them -  and even if someone had come in for, say, tielemans, with a year left we'd have got maybe 10-15M - we'd never get a player of his quality for that amount, so perhaps they felt they'd get more out of him for this last season than they'd get if they tried to replace him with someone unproven - as with all of this, we can only guess.

And as i've hypothesised elsewhere, getting rid of BR this season would have been costly, if they could have got through the season and if he'd somehow kept us up we might have been able to get rid of him to some idiots like spurs, or with relegation he'd probably have quit thus saving us having to pay him off, and if they had their eye on an unavailable Maresca, for example, why go to all the expense of sacking him and replacing him.  Honestly, as disinterested as him and the players were, there were enough dreadful teams that we still should have managed to survive.

- at bottom all of these things are, at worst, things that could have been managed better,  but are not the actions of an incompetent board - incompetent would have been facing the situation we were in and throwing another 50M at it.

[st albans fox]

12 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Have they broken 115 FFP rules? 

Don’t see the connection?  Comment was about how much clubs spend - not where the money comes from 

[Ian S]

17 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Yer but, yer but... He's worked with Pep (who's a genius!).. I'd love to see the likes of Scott Parker win the treble working with the measly budget Pep has been given over the past 4/5 years!! 

You try building a team spending in excess of £1billion and make a success of it!! 

Peps genius must have rubbed off on Enzo surely? 

Can you just give it a rest, you are boring me to tears.I have never blocked anyone on this forum but you and Simoken are vying for who will be first.

 

 

[weller54]

3 minutes ago, Ian S said:

Can you just give it a rest, you are boring me to tears.I have never blocked anyone on this forum but you and Simoken are vying for who will be first.

 

 

Feel free. 

[Lillehamring]

16 minutes ago, filbertway said:

You've not convinced me but fair play, you did say it would be unpopular

 

Personally I'd have had the "tactical retreat" in the Prem with the extra hundred million or so in the bank. But I am a bit orthodox in that regard :p

 

 

 

Sure - but, on paper, there were enough shitty teams in it last season for us to somehow have stumbled over the line, and we almost did.  But then, ah, see, we'd have had to replace half the team with players ready to go in the PL, with big fees and big salaries, and that's what got us into this mess in the first place.  I don't think they wished for relegation but certainly didn't fear it or see it as a threat, rather they saw it as an opportunity, with the exodus they faced, it has allowed us to just wipe the slate and go back to how we built the club up in the first place.  Incompetence or business sense?  To quote spinal tap: 'there's a fine line between stupid and clever.'

[Gravel]

My twopennerth...

 

 

Now anyone who disagrees for now, FOAD

 

Nighty night and god bless x

 

 

 

 

[Lillehamring]

16 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

When did we look like relegation fodder? 14/15 and the first half of 16/17 aside we were comfortably midtable at least prior to Rodgers taking over.

When they sacked ranieri for example?  The two seasons after we won the league we conceded 60 & 63 goals, not that much worse than this season - the only difference was that we had vardy and kasper to keep us in games.

[gw_leics772]

59 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Let it go ffs.

If it were that easy. 

 

I'm excited. What I was doing was pointing out why such basic platitudes hit the right note. 

 

He understands what we need. 

 

But again, to your comment, just no! 🤣

[funkyrobot]

40 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

I honestly thought that the interview I heard was awful. I was massively disappointed. He sounded totally befuddled, and offered no sense of vision, clarity or direction at all. And his English is about A2 level, which isn't what you'd expect from someone who'd wow'd people at interview. I know Claudio's English was basic too, but seriously, this guy sounds totally incoherent. Maybe I'm a cynic, but I can't for a second believe that he's been contracted on the grounds that he can do the job that we need him to do. It's about profile, style of play, cheap loans and the fact that he won't be a spanner in the works.

 

He could be up to it. But this feels like a 1 in 20 or 30 shot. There's very little to suggest that this will work.

 

I don't tend to call for managers to go, and I'll be behind Enzo too. But this is a great, great abyss that we've hurled ourselves into. (Hopefully for the better!)

Wow. Your deep ‘abyss’ appears to be entirely based on Enzo’s very brief hello video and because his English isn’t perfect?? He comes with a glowing reference from Pep Guardiola. His English is no worse than De Zerbi’s when he took over at Brighton. Rodgers used the English language perfectly but often what he said with made no sense or didn’t actually mean anything. 

 

Edited 16 June 2023 by funkyrobot

[cityfanlee23]

1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

I don't think anyone's discussed it frankly. I think the BBC said it was a young manager's learning experience prior to joining the Pep juggernaut. There's obviously a risk. But the prospect of the loan players helping our finances and squad depth overrides my caution honestly. 

Yeah I'm with you on this, the opportunity to bring in some fringe/young Man City players is going to be vital, the bonus being the manager knows just how good they are and will know if they can cut it.

[filbertway]

10 minutes ago, Lillehamring said:

Sure - but, on paper, there were enough shitty teams in it last season for us to somehow have stumbled over the line, and we almost did.  But then, ah, see, we'd have had to replace half the team with players ready to go in the PL, with big fees and big salaries, and that's what got us into this mess in the first place.  I don't think they wished for relegation but certainly didn't fear it or see it as a threat, rather they saw it as an opportunity, with the exodus they faced, it has allowed us to just wipe the slate and go back to how we built the club up in the first place.  Incompetence or business sense?  To quote spinal tap: 'there's a fine line between stupid and clever.'

Logically it makes sense to drop around 5 or 6 levels.

 

With our fan base we will be able to hoover up the best talent and still turn a profit.