How to get promoted

[ARM1968]

Play like it means something. 

[Leicesterpool]

Score more goals than the opposition 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

We also have a pretty good example to look at in our recent past. 

[OntarioFox]

many pound notes

[gurru991]

It really isn’t rocket science !!!

Win games. !!!

[Stadt]

Burnley are the most interesting parallel, new manager, style of play, rebuild etc. Their squad was cobbled together with loans and players signed for =< £3m.

 

Going into this season it wasn’t obvious they’d walk it (although I think it’ll be a stronger division this year), we should look to emulate the pace and style of their recruitment. Particularly if our finances are an issue.

 

It’s an aberration we’re even here, we should act like it and aim to set records. Maresca could be the man to do it.

Edited 3 July 2023 by Stadt

[stripeyfox]

19 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Get the most points.....

or the second most points....

[Ric Flair]

Being strong at defending and attacking set pieces is a huge benefit to have. I hope we can add this to the other required qualities. Knudsen moving on isn't a great start, we are still a few coaches down on what we're likely to need and pre-season starts today.

[Dan]

It's honestly not rocket science, it's the same as any other league, just be braced for a pretty intense schedule with a lot of midweek games. I don't know of any other league in football where you have to play more than 46 games with a view to even more.

 

90 points will get you up. In truth I think with what we spend we should be going for even more than that.

[Dan]

16 hours ago, Stadt said:

Burnley are the most interesting parallel, new manager, style of play, rebuild etc. Their squad was cobbled together with loans and players signed for =< £3m.

 

Going into this season it wasn’t obvious they’d walk it (although I think it’ll be a stronger division this year), we should look to emulate the pace and style of their recruitment. Particularly if our finances are an issue.

 

It’s an aberration we’re even here, we should act like it and aim to set records. Maresca could be the man to do it.

Yep. Cannot get bogged down into the mentality that finishing in the play-offs would be good. We are going to have the leagues biggest transfer budget, wage budget and came into the league with the strongest squad. We cannot start making any talk like we shouldn't go up. Look at the way opposition fans already are moaning about us and what we're spending. We should be the best equipped to do it, nobody will convince me otherwise.

 

Maresca is talking in the right terms too. The biggest threat to us is that he's not actually much good - he's the wildcard in this albeit there's plenty to suggest he'll be decent.

 

I do think a lot of teams are going to see us as a quite big game. We'll be viewed as a scalp. That isn't arrogance it's just the truth.

[Sampson]

16 hours ago, Stadt said:

Burnley are the most interesting parallel, new manager, style of play, rebuild etc. Their squad was cobbled together with loans and players signed for =< £3m.

 

Going into this season it wasn’t obvious they’d walk it (although I think it’ll be a stronger division this year), we should look to emulate the pace and style of their recruitment. Particularly if our finances are an issue.

 

It’s an aberration we’re even here, we should act like it and aim to set records. Maresca could be the man to do it.

Stoke in 2018-19 are the parallel on the other side when they spent around £50m on big name players and were favourites to “piss the league” as people keep saying after going down, and then finished 16th 

Edited 3 July 2023 by Sampson

[Dan]

Stoke are the side I fear becoming most as their trajectory wasn't dissimilar to ours. Change in style of play, had a couple of on paper good seasons but the wheels had clearly come off, and then one particularly dog shit season saw them drop.

 

Their summer business in 2018 was...

Peter Etebo - £6.35mil

Adam Federici - undisclosed

James McClean - £5mil

Tom Ince - £10mil

Sam Clucas - £6mil

Benik Afobe - loan

Ashley Williams - loan

Cuco Martina - loan

Ryan Woods - loan

 

Then in January, sat in 15th made Woods and Afobe's moves permanent, and signed Danny Batth (£3mil) and Sam Vokes (undisclosed). They won 2 of their last 18 games and finished 16th.

 

I can definitely see a couple of parallels - Winks could go either way. Ince for £10mil was an obviously brainless signing. They've clearly recruited to get promoted at the first attempt but even more mystifyingly kept up the spending on players with no resale value despite needing a bit of a miracle to go up. I want to think we're going to better this quite significantly. Some pretty shoddy business. Nathan Jones a disaster as well.

[dsr-burnley]

19 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Stoke are the side I fear becoming most as their trajectory wasn't dissimilar to ours. Change in style of play, had a couple of on paper good seasons but the wheels had clearly come off, and then one particularly dog shit season saw them drop.

 

Their summer business in 2018 was...

Peter Etebo - £6.35mil

Adam Federici - undisclosed

James McClean - £5mil

Tom Ince - £10mil

Sam Clucas - £6mil

Benik Afobe - loan

Ashley Williams - loan

Cuco Martina - loan

Ryan Woods - loan

 

Then in January, sat in 15th made Woods and Afobe's moves permanent, and signed Danny Batth (£3mil) and Sam Vokes (undisclosed). They won 2 of their last 18 games and finished 16th.

 

I can definitely see a couple of parallels - Winks could go either way. Ince for £10mil was an obviously brainless signing. They've clearly recruited to get promoted at the first attempt but even more mystifyingly kept up the spending on players with no resale value despite needing a bit of a miracle to go up. I want to think we're going to better this quite significantly. Some pretty shoddy business. Nathan Jones a disaster as well.

Vokes cost about £10m too, which was a ridiculous fee for someone who was clearly past his best.

[splinterdream]

On 02/07/2023 at 11:15, Paninistickers said:

If I were manager, I'd task some of the analyst staff for a few in depth  case studies of teams have done it of late. How Burnley approached it. How Benitez did with Newcastle. How Wolves walked the league. How Farke did it with Norwich twice. There must be some patterns..

 

The nearest parallel to this season from our own history I reckon  was our campaign under Mickey Adams 20 years ago. We had some proper streetwise PL players we couldn't move on due to huge wages and we kinda got promoted on stealth. Tactics were basic but the structure was enough for the players to overwhelm most teams. Deane, Elliott, Frank, Scowcroft and Big Trev all just too physically strong. Dickov, Muzz and Impey all had a bit too much cleverness. It was a formula good enough to steam roller the division, second to Portsmouth (who were the real talent of that season) but miles ahead of third 

I remember being bored that season, the football was awful, very route 1 and we bullied sides, it was effective but not good, I think the championship quality has got alot better since then

[TeamRocket]

Make sure we have good medical team 

[Finnegan]

On 03/07/2023 at 07:24, Ric Flair said:

Knudsen moving on isn't a great start

 

I know we improved defensively but we still scored from an absolutely embarrassingly tiny number of set pieces, if any at all, with him here. 

 

Edited 4 July 2023 by Finnegan

[Ric Flair]

14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I know we improved defensively but we still scored from an absolutely embarrassingly tiny number of set pieces, if any at all, with him here. 

 

Yeah I hear ya, not sure if that was still a blanket failure at improving our chance creation from set pieces (is xG on set pieces chance creation a thing?)

 

But I recall some improved patterns of play in set pieces at the start of his tenure with us but it didn't seem to be very noticeable the longer the season went on.

 

Defending set pieces I think we can say was one of the improvements from the season before.