Trey Nyoni - Liverpool

[Sly]

Jurgen Klopp however, has another young player in his sights. Liverpool are close to signing 16-year-old Leicester City player Trey Nyoni, with the midfielder highly rated following a string of impressive performances at age group level. 

Nyoni, who qualifies to play for both England and Zimbabwe, made 13 appearances in the Under 18 Premier League last season. He also played in the FA Youth Cup, but is yet to make his senior debut in professional football.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-transfer-news-romeo-lavia-30595619

[David Hiorns]

The worlds gone mad when children are spirited away from academies to join other hopefuls with a similar chance of ever making a breakthrough. 
Football really isn’t that complex a game that teams can’t develop their own, yet still this sort of thing goes on. Seems the footballing world is awash with “wonder kids”… the vast majority of whom will never see the light of day. Very sad 

[ronnup]

One Nyoni...

One Nyoni...

[LCFCABC]

Mad really. Suppose it’s a good sign that our academy is creating talent. 
 

fast track of good enough. 
 

no doubt we took him from another club so can’t moan really

 

 

[Grebfromgrebland]

Shame that we are losing players before we get any value from them.

 

If this keeps happening then Seagrave would be the biggest miscalculation ever by the club.

 

Only time will tell, however.

[Bluearmyfox28]

Shame, but it’s the reality of modern day football. Big clubs don’t even hide that they are scouting teams best talent to take off them, they stand pitch side as if it’s a scout watching Sunday league.

[Lesta Legend]

This is the player @ramadaone was talking about. 

[HybridFox]

Nyoni live once

[FoxFossil]

Guess Liverpool will do triple reveal, having seen our masterclass.

Un, dos, trey.

[moore_94]

 

[sacreblueits442]

4 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Shame that we are losing players before we get any value from them.

 

If this keeps happening then Seagrave would be the biggest miscalculation ever by the club.

 

Only time will tell, however.

...there obviously was not a pathway it seems that allowed him to get to where he wants be, to at this club!!!

  We handle our talent poorly,  we put them in teams with no structure or purpose and wonder why they stall in their development. 

  Seagrave is no mythical magic castle where once you go in, you are blessed and become world class. It is only as good as the people that you staff it with and the overhaul that we have needed just never get done.

  He has opted to go to a club, laden with talent and join a line of potentials, where a team such as us, constantly looking for talent, is not viewed as a quicker way to the first team.

[coolhandfox]

4 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Shame that we are losing players before we get any value from them.

 

If this keeps happening then Seagrave would be the biggest miscalculation ever by the club.

 

Only time will tell, however.

Not 100% true we will get a fee.

 

Nothing to do with Seagrave, just the pulling power of one of thr biggest club in the country.

[Ric Flair]

28 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Not 100% true we will get a fee.

 

Nothing to do with Seagrave, just the pulling power of one of thr biggest club in the country.

That fee won't be much though will it? Tribunals are usually a few hundred thousand max for players of his age. I presume Liverpool have opted to be stingy, which is a shame as they've paid 7 figures for similar youngsters before.

[coolhandfox]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

That fee won't be much though will it? Tribunals are usually a few hundred thousand max for players of his age. I presume Liverpool have opted to be stingy, which is a shame as they've paid 7 figures for similar youngsters before.

No 

 

But there is little we can do to stand in his way, the lights of the big 6 shine brightly for first teamer and kids alike.  

[BKLFox]

25 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...there obviously was not a pathway it seems that allowed him to get to where he wants be, to at this club!!!

  We handle our talent poorly,  we put them in teams with no structure or purpose and wonder why they stall in their development. 

  Seagrave is no mythical magic castle where once you go in, you are blessed and become world class. It is only as good as the people that you staff it with and the overhaul that we have needed just never get done.

  He has opted to go to a club, laden with talent and join a line of potentials, where a team such as us, constantly looking for talent, is not viewed as a quicker way to the first team.

i know you cover the unders a lot so probably more in the know but surely there is a pathway, that being U16, 17, 18, 19, etc & our 'poor' coaching staff already had him in the U18s so ahead of a standard trajectory.
If this kid thinks he's another Tavare's & should be pushing 1st team & the 'poor' coaching staff don't think so you have to let him go, he will quickly find out that the pool of his talented peers has just got larger. I very much doubt the 'great' coaching staff at Liverpool will have him in a team higher than U18.

Kids will see Liverpool over Leicester of course they will but what they won't see is they are pawns of the business side, Liverpool are snapping him up in the hope he will turn them a profit first & foremost not that he will be a lynchpin of the midfield as mooted by this comment from an article stating Liverpool had won his signature.

"Liverpool will be trying to catch up with Manchester City who have been signing all the best players at youth level for the last number of months. Nyoni is someone City would have looked at, so to win the race is massive for Klopp and the club."
We can see what Man C are dong with their youngsters, kids that have never put on a 1st team shirt going to clubs for £15m with low buybacks just incase their stock does rise so they can buyback & flip out again for profit, nothing to do with 1st team running.
 

The magic castle comment is true to a degree but you missed the most important fundamental way before any staff, swimming pool or fancy gym & thats the attitude of that young player 'them'self, only that player can make 'them'self the best they can be, everything else is a tool for them to use to achieve it. If they don't have it in them to knuckledown & put the time & hard graft in then they will never make it.
It's a shame they see a badge over another badge before the what is best for me as a 16yr old, you have to go back 21yrs to see the last 16yr old that exploded into a 1st team & to date there is nothing coming out of any stable that suggests another will anytime soon.

[funkyrobot]

Hopefully the pathway to real first team opportunities will improve now Rodgers isn’t at the club. It might make players like Nyoni less likely to take the additional risk that being a youth player at a big 6 club should inevitably bring. For a club with a smaller and shrinking budget, Rodgers was very reluctant to give opportunities, particularly to the more creative young players. When we were scratching around for wide strikers last season, Madivadua etc should’ve had opportunities. Before Alves and Braybrooke were crocked they should’ve been trusted to be at least an option from the bench. 

[Gerard]

11 hours ago, ronnup said:

One Nyoni...

One Nyoni...

 

Nobody I'd rather be

I am the one Nyoni

Can't take that away from me

[Supergray22]

On 01/08/2023 at 06:59, David Hiorns said:

The worlds gone mad when children are spirited away from academies to join other hopefuls with a similar chance of ever making a breakthrough. 
Football really isn’t that complex a game that teams can’t develop their own, yet still this sort of thing goes on. Seems the footballing world is awash with “wonder kids”… the vast majority of whom will never see the light of day. Very sad 

Sad that we can’t keep hold of him. We can’t became a development centre for the likes of Liverpool. Big clubs picking up young wonder kids has been around for decades but they do seem to be getting younger.