Bert Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 3 hours ago, danny2997 said: I’m not sure it’s really been his fault but given Hermansen hasn’t been able to keep a clean sheet yet, does there come a point where Stolarcyk is given a shot in the league if he’s done well in the cup? So if it’s not been his fault…. What more do you expect from him? I don’t think any keeper in the world saves Coventry’s goal, nor Hull’s which took a massive deflection. Maybe could’ve done a bit better for Rotherham’s but that’s even being harsh.
danny2997 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 1 hour ago, Craig said: According to FBref... Hermansen's pass completion is 87% compared to Stolarczyk's 76% so far this season, with Hermansen completing 100% of short and medium type passes (50% long). Stolarczyk's short and medium pass completion is only a little less than Hermansen's, but when it comes to long passing he is a lot worse - just 8% completed. Basically, he is not dropping Hermansen in favour of Stolarczyk's distribution. Stats aren't everything, although 100% short passes I recall at least a couple that have put an outfield player under serious pressure but that would still count as a completed pass. I suspect you could also draw up similar stats to show that Wanya shouldn't have been dropped against Rotherham, but its not all about stats. Again, not saying I want Mads dropped at all cause I like him.
Craig Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 4 minutes ago, danny2997 said: Stats aren't everything, although 100% short passes I recall at least a couple that have put an outfield player under serious pressure but that would still count as a completed pass. I suspect you could also draw up similar stats to show that Wanya shouldn't have been dropped against Rotherham, but its not all about stats. Again, not saying I want Mads dropped at all cause I like him. No, but even visually he's been far far more comfortable on the ball and when distributing than Stolarczyk
danny2997 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 6 minutes ago, Bert said: So if it’s not been his fault…. What more do you expect from him? I don’t think any keeper in the world saves Coventry’s goal, nor Hull’s which took a massive deflection. Maybe could’ve done a bit better for Rotherham’s but that’s even being harsh. Just cause its not fault doesn't mean he couldn't have done more and if Enzo seen anything in the cup matches and training to favour Stolarcyk then why wouldn't he change things? For Coventry goal, could he have saved it given what had happened? Probably not, but he could have taken ownership and grabbed it himself. Think his positioning was a bit off for Cardiff's. Hull although deflected didn't have lots of pace on it, could you have seen Schmeichel save it? Maybe. For Rotherham's could possibly have claimed it himself also, seen Iversen get criticised for a similar sort of goal last season. 4
Guest Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 Just now, danny2997 said: Just cause its not fault doesn't mean he couldn't have done more and if Enzo seen anything in the cup matches and training to favour Stolarcyk then why wouldn't he change things? For Coventry goal, could he have saved it given what had happened? Probably not, but he could have taken ownership and grabbed it himself. Think his positioning was a bit off for Cardiff's. Hull although deflected didn't have lots of pace on it, could you have seen Schmeichel save it? Maybe. For Rotherham's could possibly have claimed it himself also, seen Iversen get criticised for a similar sort of goal last season. He's not getting dropped mate
danny2997 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 2 minutes ago, Craig said: No, but even visually he's been far far more comfortable on the ball and when distributing than Stolarczyk Same example, if we're going visually then I think Wanya has been visually better than Mavididi but we have seen more minutes for Mavididi so far.
danny2997 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 2 minutes ago, Guest said: He's not getting dropped mate Cheers Enzo
Guest Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 Just now, danny2997 said: Cheers Enzo Not a problem Jakub 3
Dan Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 3 hours ago, pmcla26 said: I'm not sure about everyone saying drop both KDH and Ndidi for McAteer and Casadei. Southampton will see more of the ball than any side we have played so far this season and they are the two most effective players at winning the ball in the middle of the park. I think we need to start with at least one of them in there. I kind of do get this, the same sort of XI may work out very differently against the first side who will give us proper space to attack them. Although we have got to drop this Ndidi idea now I think. People talk about Maresca wanting technical quality over the pitch which makes sense and then you have one of your most advanced attackers as probably the least effective at this. I'd have Casadei in for him. 2
danny2997 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 Is there much evidence that McAteer would be as successful as an 8 anyway? I think his main attribute has been getting space out wide and getting past a fullback. He's been a revelation out wide so far (at least compared to relative struggles making consistent game time while out on loan). I'd probably start with him on the left and Fatawu off the right based on recent evidence. Keep it with KDH who certainly hasn't been brilliant but is still showing some positive attributes getting us forward, alongside Casadei who has been more impressive than Ndidi so far. 2
jayfox26 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 No idea what the score will be but I reckon both teams will have at least 60% possession 1 3
fuchsntf Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: Going to be goals in it. No doubt it'll be another game where we won't keep a clean sheet. I'm pretty worried about conceding chances to these, the likes of Armstrong aren't going to need many chances to put one away. As long as Dewsbury-Hall and Iheanacho are dropped I'll be happy. I reckon Enzo is Building his team around ( Coady when he returns)Winks & KDH,so at present (5 games into season) both at this part of the season will be given their reins,and KDHs drifting in out of games will be correctly tolerated… I myself think he’s doing well and taken on the new responsibility,all players have their hiccups through a game. And he pushes with pressing the room around the box,maybe not quite hitting the button squarely at present.Posters complaining he misses a pass,or someone’s better run….So do players like KDB or any top player.. IMO too much OTT analysing,and also where at present everybody is finding their feet and will have poor moments. Doyle on Saturday for example,was a bit like Hulls n02, found themselves under pressure ,on their ass a couple of times,and caught out of position.. Enzo won’t drop Doyle on a mix n match sort of game ditto for KDH.
The Doctor Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 21 minutes ago, danny2997 said: Just cause its not fault doesn't mean he couldn't have done more and if Enzo seen anything in the cup matches and training to favour Stolarcyk then why wouldn't he change things? For Coventry goal, could he have saved it given what had happened? Probably not, but he could have taken ownership and grabbed it himself. Think his positioning was a bit off for Cardiff's. Hull although deflected didn't have lots of pace on it, could you have seen Schmeichel save it? Maybe. For Rotherham's could possibly have claimed it himself also, seen Iversen get criticised for a similar sort of goal last season. The absolute howitzer into the postage stamp? ****ing prime Buffon would not have gotten to that 2
danny2997 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 2 minutes ago, The Doctor said: The absolute howitzer into the postage stamp? ****ing prime Buffon would not have gotten to that Not sure sure about that, the balls hit the side netting about 2/3s up right next to the post. Its not an easy save by any means but with your example, I'd have backed prime Buffon to get it. I think you're overegging it a bit. 2
whoareyaaa Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 8 hours ago, AKCJ said: Sorry but swapping KDH and Winks is a terrible idea. it's really not, Winks can find a pass KDH can't
Pita Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 We need to give whoever at the front some quick balls build up been slow.
moore_94 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 22 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: it's really not, Winks can find a pass KDH can't Yeah but you are also forgetting that you would then playing KDH in a role in front of our defence where we can’t risk having his one-footedness and poor ball retention
whoareyaaa Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 5 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Yeah but you are also forgetting that you would then playing KDH in a role in front of our defence where we can’t risk having his one-footedness and poor ball retention I don't think he would be as bad there tbh.
ARTY_FOX Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 3 hours ago, AKCJ said: Has he actually made a mistake yet? He's conceded 4 goals and they've all been pretty much unsaveable. For all the luck people like to say we've had. The goals we've conceded have been extremely unlucky.
Lillehamring Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 So this would have been my first chance to see us play since nacho scored a VAR assisted goal against everton in 2019, as it's the first time we'll be back in england since covid. However, it turns out, even though there are still tickets available, for me and the missus to buy one, we both need to be international members - so that would mean us paying £140 - which is a monstrous fee for just one game. No idea why international membership costs so much, seeing as you're seldom going to actually be able to take advantage of it. Gutted. 2
sacreblueits442 Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 12 hours ago, AKCJ said: Hermansen Faes Coady Doyle Ricardo Winks Fatawu Casadei KDH Mavididi Iheanacho Stolarczyk, Justin, Vestergaard, Choudhury, McAteer, Yunus, Ndidi, Cannon, Vardy ...would bring McAteer back in on the left!!!
Lillehamring Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 4 hours ago, The Blur said: According to FotMob, KDH is second in terms of chances created. I say this with the caveat that I haven't watched a single game yet so it could be all 3 yards lay off for long range shots. KDH also has second highest average rating as well. A surprising stat considering the criticisms he gets on here. Not really, when so much of the criticism is based on instinct rather than reality - for example vestergaard got low marks against hull because the goal deflected off him, even though he did well and couldn't really have done much more with the shot coming straight at him.
Bordersfox Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 2 hours ago, The Doctor said: The absolute howitzer into the postage stamp? ****ing prime Buffon would not have gotten to that Tbf you're debating a prime buffoon
Lillehamring Posted 4 September 2023 Posted 4 September 2023 Given that, on paper, this would probably rank in our 3 toughest games this season, and that we are still very early in the learning process, i don't expect to see many changes to the squad. In fact i think it's safe to say that it will be Mads, rico, faes, vesty, doyle, winks, kdh & ndidi - with the only doubts being the front three - personally i think this is a game for vardy, we'll probably have less possession than normal and more space to counter quickly over the top (more like how we played against liverpool). The last two might come down to who he prefers in such a situation and how they show up in the next two weeks. I highly doubt we'll see casadei start, when ndidi actually makes sense to put some pressure on their possession game, and he's not going to risk mcateer for kdh, given he's yet to play that position at this level.
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