st albans fox Posted 12 April 2024 Posted 12 April 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, kenny said: I'm sure there will be a gentleman's agreement amongst the big 6 that sees their academy players move between them like Palmer to Chelsea. Not sure about that but I will have my eyes on whether we see a Southampton player sold to Man City (or one of their overseas clubs) over the next few windows at what looks to be quite an inflated price Edited 12 April 2024 by st albans fox 1
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 12 April 2024 Posted 12 April 2024 21 hours ago, st albans fox said: There was some stuff on social media about a swap deal with kdh and nketiah. lots of comments about how this makes no sense because we need money pre June 30 it occurs to me that we value kdh at 40m but no one will pay that given our situation. Arsenal value nketiah at 40m but again, no one is paying that for him. so here’s a thought …. We sell kdh to arsenal in June for 40m we buy nketiah in July for 40m positive in our ledger to June 30 of 40m For 24/25 onwards we have negative 8m each season on nketiah. He isn’t worth it but the consequences for our psr position is excellent. the reality is that we will be v lucky to get 30m for kdh in June. arsenal similar with nketiah. The above shows how we can manipulate the situation to our advantage, Bit like Winks and Maddison....!
st albans fox Posted 12 April 2024 Posted 12 April 2024 13 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Bit like Winks and Maddison....! Perfect illustration of how sh1te we are we could easily have sold madders for 50m and paid 20m for winks which sticks another 10m in the positive column for a period we knew we would fail. Do you think we inflated 5m on the deals we did?
volpeazzurro Posted 14 April 2024 Posted 14 April 2024 On 11/04/2024 at 19:09, st albans fox said: There was some stuff on social media about a swap deal with kdh and nketiah. lots of comments about how this makes no sense because we need money pre June 30 it occurs to me that we value kdh at 40m but no one will pay that given our situation. Arsenal value nketiah at 40m but again, no one is paying that for him. so here’s a thought …. We sell kdh to arsenal in June for 40m we buy nketiah in July for 40m positive in our ledger to June 30 of 40m For 24/25 onwards we have negative 8m each season on nketiah. He isn’t worth it but the consequences for our psr position is excellent. the reality is that we will be v lucky to get 30m for kdh in June. arsenal similar with nketiah. The above shows how we can manipulate the situation to our advantage, Think you're totally missing the point that KDH, as an academy product, is potentially our most saleable and profit worthy asset in order to raise revenue to attempt to balance the FFP books. You don't do that by swapping players. In fact if we did go up and face a points deduction, such a stunt would only serve to attract a bigger punishment!
st albans fox Posted 14 April 2024 Posted 14 April 2024 3 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Think you're totally missing the point that KDH, as an academy product, is potentially our most saleable and profit worthy asset in order to raise revenue to attempt to balance the FFP books. You don't do that by swapping players. In fact if we did go up and face a points deduction, such a stunt would only serve to attract a bigger punishment! We aren’t swapping players in my suggestion 2
indierich06 Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 https://www.footballinsider247.com/arsenal-will-accept-offers-for-trio-to-fund-bruno-guimaraes-move-sources/ Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe? I'd take all three to be honest.
ALC Fox Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 1 hour ago, indierich06 said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/arsenal-will-accept-offers-for-trio-to-fund-bruno-guimaraes-move-sources/ Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe? I'd take all three to be honest. I think Nelson needs a proper home where he can be trusted to make mistakes and thrive. Nketiah is a good finisher and could be a long-term competition with Cannon. I'd take both for sure. Smith-Rowe I'm torn on. Looked really decent a couple of seasons ago but would he fit Enzo's system? Does he have the required engine as an 8 or can he be moved further back as a Winks alternative?
UniFox21 Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 1 hour ago, indierich06 said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/arsenal-will-accept-offers-for-trio-to-fund-bruno-guimaraes-move-sources/ Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe? I'd take all three to be honest. All will command too high a fee for their worth and ability. 2
Wortho Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 1 hour ago, indierich06 said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/arsenal-will-accept-offers-for-trio-to-fund-bruno-guimaraes-move-sources/ Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe? I'd take all three to be honest. They are all on £120K per week. Can't see them wanting to come here, plus I don't really want them personally.
Chelmofox Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 1 hour ago, Wortho said: They are all on £120K per week. Can't see them wanting to come here, plus I don't really want them personally. Smith-Rowe is a trap signing as its all about his reputation. Hes played about 300 minutes of football this season and everytime i have seen him he looked massively unfit. Somewhere is going to take him, massively overpay on the wages, get an ok player for a short while before turns into a donkey. 2 1
MPH Posted 1 May 2024 Author Posted 1 May 2024 2 hours ago, indierich06 said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/arsenal-will-accept-offers-for-trio-to-fund-bruno-guimaraes-move-sources/ Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe? I'd take all three to be honest. It looks like they are wanting to complete Deals before the end of June, in which case if we purchased them it would count towards this seasons budget... which will be a no then as we are already looking to offload before june to meet requirements for this year. Besides, Nketia will cost 30m himself, id imagine Smith Rowe is not too far behind and Nelson too. Its very unlikely we will be spending 30m on a single player this off season and certainly not 2-3 of similar value..
MPH Posted 1 May 2024 Author Posted 1 May 2024 1 hour ago, Wortho said: They are all on £120K per week. Can't see them wanting to come here, plus I don't really want them personally. Smith-rowe injured a lot last season... giving an injury prone player 120k per week... what could possibly go wrong?!? 1
funkyrobot Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 3 hours ago, indierich06 said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/arsenal-will-accept-offers-for-trio-to-fund-bruno-guimaraes-move-sources/ Nketiah, Nelson and Smith-Rowe? I'd take all three to be honest. Wages would be very high
HankMarvin Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 Another player that had a good run before a new contract
jayfox26 Posted 1 May 2024 Posted 1 May 2024 9 hours ago, MPH said: It looks like they are wanting to complete Deals before the end of June, in which case if we purchased them it would count towards this seasons budget... which will be a no then as we are already looking to offload before june to meet requirements for this year. Besides, Nketia will cost 30m himself, id imagine Smith Rowe is not too far behind and Nelson too. Its very unlikely we will be spending 30m on a single player this off season and certainly not 2-3 of similar value.. We know we are going to get fcked by the efl next time we go down, so I say we sign a load of players before June, whilst we are still a championship club and then it won't affect our budget for next season as a premier league club. Give ourselves the best chance of surviving so we don't have to worry about any championship points deductions.
MPH Posted 1 May 2024 Author Posted 1 May 2024 6 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: We know we are going to get fcked by the efl next time we go down, so I say we sign a load of players before June, whilst we are still a championship club and then it won't affect our budget for next season as a premier league club. Give ourselves the best chance of surviving so we don't have to worry about any championship points deductions. until we get relegated and start the season on -157 points! 1
jayfox26 Posted 2 May 2024 Posted 2 May 2024 9 hours ago, MPH said: until we get relegated and start the season on -157 points! Yeh the idea is to not get relegated
MPH Posted 2 May 2024 Author Posted 2 May 2024 3 hours ago, jayfox26 said: Yeh the idea is to not get relegated im sure that was the idea two seasons ago as well..
surrifox Posted 2 May 2024 Posted 2 May 2024 I'm just happy to be in a race to sign someone, I'd have preferred a battle but given our parlous financial situation I'll take whatever's on offer
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