Development/Youth Squads 2024/2025 Thread - U18/U21

[Foxes1]

1 hour ago, moore_94 said:

 

Lost 2-0

[Ryy]

We’ve taken Keehan Barrett-Underwood on trial from Liverpool (USA) is only 16 I think was training with the first team recently 

[Foxy-Lady]

On 13/11/2024 at 18:18, MGsDad said:

Have you seen what we have in the younger ages? U14 have 2 very promising keeper prospects. Both very highly regarded in the academy. Looking forward to seeing their progress. 

Highly regarded by WHO??

 

I've seen several young GKs coming through the Youth system, all of whom were told they were highly rated....but none of them developed beyond 18 as the GK coaching and opportunities beyond that point were very poor (ie Stowell, Thompson, Beaglehole etc...)

 

Sometimes people give kids/parents "false hope" just to keep them motivated and working hard without really knowing how they will develop.....ow worse still, knowing that they have no future beyond 18-20

 

Varnam, Bramley, Yates, French, Bosworth all went down this same line (and im sure many others too?) and NONE of them are playing at professional level today despite being awarded Pro contracts by LCFC at 18

 

Jakob Stolarczyk is the only one who may potentially break the mould....but Iversen, who was an outstanding shot-stopper when we signed hi at 18yrs must be pretty p**sed off that Beaglehole just told him to "boot it long" in the 3 years while he played "hoof-ball" for the U23s....and no-one ever worked on improving his distribution and/or foot-skills as it was deemed irrelevant which is the flaw in his game that has now been exposed at the highest level!

 

LCFCs U18-23 Goalkeeping development is very poor....and has been for a very long time!

 

(PS from the age of 12-16, the Academy GK coaches seem to be very good from what ive witnessed!)

[jamesmilner]

12 minutes ago, Foxy-Lady said:

 

 

Sometimes people give kids/parents "false hope" just to keep them motivated and working hard without really knowing how they will develop.....ow worse still, knowing that they have no future beyond 18-20

 

How can even the best coach in the world see into the future ? No one 'knows' how a player will develop . Its a good coach that trys to keep players motivated and working hard . I have seen many many players develop late on after 18-20 and do very well . That sentence above just shows you for what you are . 

[Foxy-Lady]

20 hours ago, jamesmilner said:

How can even the best coach in the world see into the future ? No one 'knows' how a player will develop . Its a good coach that trys to keep players motivated and working hard . I have seen many many players develop late on after 18-20 and do very well . That sentence above just shows you for what you are . 

Thanks for the personal comment.....which just shows you for what you are.

 

there are very few examples of players who have developed late on after 18-20 in the academy system as they would normally have been released long before that stage if they had not developed. Those who develop that late have normally come into the game from "outside" the academy system due to real life playing experience.

 

I agree that good coaches try to keep players motivated.....but good coaches also work on continually developing players.....but my post was NOT referring to good coaches....it was referring to inadequate coaches which is why LCFC have a poor record of developing GKs.

Is it really just coincidence that the county of Leicestershire has been unable to produce a single professional Goalkeeper in 20 years??  In the real world, if you failed to demonstrate any level of success/competence for a prolonged period, your employers would start to question your capability....not seemingly so with the U23 GK coaches at LCFC Academy which produces international GKs at U16 level.....but nothing beyond that!

 

From memory, The last decent professional GK that came from leicestershire was Chris Kirkland....and he was never at LCFC!    I'll let you do the Maths on that one...

 

And if you are correct in your assumption that "no one knows how a player will develope"......what would make any coach better qualified than me or you to make a call on which players should be released and which should be retained?

 

[Aus Fox]

Wasn’t Viktor Johansson one of our youth team graduates? Done alright for himself, full Swedish international and a quality keeper at Championship level.

[lcfcsnow]

4 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Wasn’t Viktor Johansson one of our youth team graduates? Done alright for himself, full Swedish international and a quality keeper at Championship level.

One of Petty's first Villa boys

[Foxy-Lady]

40 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Wasn’t Viktor Johansson one of our youth team graduates? Done alright for himself, full Swedish international and a quality keeper at Championship level.

19 years old when we recruited him from Villa as a free out-of-contract player. Developed in Sweden and then 3 years at AVFC academy

Already a well developed GK before we signed him due to personal ties to Ben Petty from his Villa coaching days.

[Ric Flair]

2 hours ago, Foxy-Lady said:

19 years old when we recruited him from Villa as a free out-of-contract player. Developed in Sweden and then 3 years at AVFC academy

Already a well developed GK before we signed him due to personal ties to Ben Petty from his Villa coaching days.

Be interesting to see Teddy Sharman-Lowe's career. Came up through our academy before he went to Burton. Now on loan at Doncaster from Chelsea.

[Foxy-Lady]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Be interesting to see Teddy Sharman-Lowe's career. Came up through our academy before he went to Burton. Now on loan at Doncaster from Chelsea.

Local leicester boy...

 

we released him age 14....signed for Burton for 3 years....next thing, he's signing for Chelsea at 17 and has thus far represented England at U17, U19 and U20 age groups.

 

wonder how Burton/Chelsea managed to see his potential and develop him that quickly in 3 years when we deemed that he wouldn't make it at 14...?!?

 

Interesting....as the reported fee Chelsea paid Burton for him will potentially reach >£1m with sell-on and add-on clauses....! 

 

No wonder we dont produce leicester born GKs through our academy system when we dont recognise potential when we see it...!

 

 

[Ant495]

do you know team for Leic city u17 vs Aston Villa u17 tonight in u17 PL cup 

[Collymore]

U21s playing Wolves at 13:30. 

 

I wonder if Alves will come across that cretinous Voice?

[lfu]

35 minutes ago, Collymore said:

U21s playing Wolves at 13:30. 

 

I wonder if Alves will come across that cretinous Voice?

We should send Hamza to the game, on a tight lead with a studded collar and muzzle, to be unleashed like an XL Bully if Voice is thinking about any more funny business

[Sly]

6 hours ago, Collymore said:

U21s playing Wolves at 13:30. 

 

I wonder if Alves will come across that cretinous Voice?

No Alves in the squad. 
Voice is on the bench. 

[moore_94]

     

[moore_94]

Under 21s vs Wolves

 

 

Subs: 

15	K. Pennant
16	L. Briggs
13	H. French
14	J. Lindsay
12	B. Amartey

[moore_94]

1-0 Wolves

[Sly]

Just now, moore_94 said:

     

The academy teams aren’t getting on very well at the moment. 
 

I notice the U21s are also 1-0 down against Wolves after 4 minutes. 

[coolhandfox]

30 minutes ago, Sly said:

The academy teams aren’t getting on very well at the moment. 
 

I notice the U21s are also 1-0 down against Wolves after 4 minutes. 

We have sent a lot out on loan from the u21with Monga and Evan step up to the u21, they are probably the best to players in the u18.

 

I'm not surprised both teams are struggle.

 

[moore_94]

            

[Lambert09]

won’t be long until jake evans makes our bench 

[Shane]

Cartwright has a lot of attributes we’re missing in the first team. Strong in the tackle, high work rate, physical and wins a lot of duels in midfield.

[Ric Flair]

4 hours ago, Shane said:

Cartwright has a lot of attributes we’re missing in the first team. Strong in the tackle, high work rate, physical and wins a lot of duels in midfield.

Skipp has the ability to do that but we don't play him.

[lanefox]

Alves with cast on his arm in one of the training videos

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Logan Briggs dont half look like Titanic / The Beach era Di Caprio