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foxy boxing

foxy boxing

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Where will Assad Go! Russia! Iran! Will the west want him arrested and tried for war crimes!

Will the Syrians want him to face trial in Syria!

The west will be glad Assad is gone but they won't want an islamist regime with ties to Islamic terrorists to rule. 

They won't want Syria to end up like Afghanistan which might be most likely.

The fall of Syria is a massive loss to Russia who are pre occupied with Ukraine and Iran who now have lost a key ally 

 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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It's interesting how highly Trump appears to view Prince William given their pretty much polar opposite views towards most anything involving humanitarianism and long term future.

Lionator

Lionator

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53 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

It's interesting how highly Trump appears to view Prince William given their pretty much polar opposite views towards most anything involving humanitarianism and long term future.

He likes anything to do with royalty, look at how much he loves Crown Prince Bin Salman. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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18 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

That’s cos he thinks he’s royalty !

Pretty much, yeah.

 

5 minutes ago, Lionator said:

So as the dust is settling in Syria, in terms of bigger nations, Erdogan has played an absolute geopolitical masterclass are we saying? 

In terms of getting what he wants without really being seen to raise a finger, I would think so.

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Finnaldo

Finnaldo

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This Syrian offensive would have been 100% Turkey-backed and I suspect they’d have let some players, including Israel, in on it behind the curtain. I imagine there’s promises of moderation in the government and if HTS steps out of line then Turkey will step in and sort it out. 
 

It, however, a very bad time to be the SDF/Rojava right now I imagine.

bovril

bovril

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Just a reminder that the most stable Arab country - Jordan - is led by a half Suffolkian (and you can tell it looking at him) king. East Anglian monarchy is clearly the ideal form of governance.  

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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2 hours ago, Lionator said:

So as the dust is settling in Syria, in terms of bigger nations, Erdogan has played an absolute geopolitical masterclass are we saying? 


Not convinced that erdogan wants a destabilised Syria on his border with potentially even more refugees.  are there any countries in the region who are actually happy to see this development with the lack of any certainty.  

 

1 hour ago, Finnaldo said:

This Syrian offensive would have been 100% Turkey-backed and I suspect they’d have let some players, including Israel, in on it behind the curtain. I imagine there’s promises of moderation in the government and if HTS steps out of line then Turkey will step in and sort it out. 
 

It, however, a very bad time to be the SDF/Rojava right now I imagine.

 

Turkey’s proxy is the SNA (Syrian national army) . Not sure what their relationship is with HTS - as I understand, they have designated it as a terror organisation.  Turkey are v concerned about the Kurdish area in n Syria 

Wymsey

Wymsey

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I know that discussing migration on here gets very sensitive and some posts on the matter have been deleted in the past, but it's getting quite concerning.

 

There seems to be an ever-growing amount of UK-born residents starting to strongly disagree with placing migrants in numerous hotel chains (including in motorway services locations) and apparently disregarding the 'UK-own' homeless people.

 

Will these migrants be allow to stay in the UK in the long-run?

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Dunge

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3 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

I know that discussing migration on here gets very sensitive and some posts on the matter have been deleted in the past, but it's getting quite concerning.

 

There seems to be an ever-growing amount of UK-born residents starting to strongly disagree with placing migrants in numerous hotel chains (including in motorway services locations) and apparently disregarding the 'UK-own' homeless people.

 

Will these migrants be allow to stay in the UK in the long-run?

No offence here, because clearly it’s not just you or anything like that, but I’m getting rather sick of people raising “the problem” without offering anything resembling a thought-out solution.

 

I mean, given the alternatives, one could always just put up with it?

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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2 minutes ago, Dunge said:

No offence here, because clearly it’s not just you or anything like that, but I’m getting rather sick of people raising “the problem” without offering anything resembling a thought-out solution.

 

I mean, given the alternatives, one could always just put up with it?

Amen to that.

 

Migration isn't the only issue where it happens, either.

 

Though if I'm totally honest, I think a fair few people do believe they have a solution to these immigration or other issues - they just don't feel comfortable articulating them out loud because they know that they mean a great many people will suffer and die and they don't want to be seen actually advocating for that, even though at a base level the idea doesn't appear to bother them.

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EnderbyFox

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The stories of the people being liberated from political prisons.. mental

 

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Raghad al-Tatary, a pilot who refused to bomb the city of Hama during the uprising against Hafez al-Assad in the 1980s, was freed after 43 years;

 

Tal al-Mallouhi, 19 when she was arrested in 2009 for a blogpost criticising state corruption, was found alive.

 

One shaven-headed, shaking man in Sednaya had been so ill-treated he had lost his memory and struggled to talk. His family said he had been 20 and a medical student when he vanished 13 years ago.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/08/tears-of-joy-and-sadness-as-disappeared-syrians-emerge-from-assads-prisons

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bovril

bovril

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1 minute ago, EnderbyFox said:

The stories of the people being liberated from political prisons.. mental

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/08/tears-of-joy-and-sadness-as-disappeared-syrians-emerge-from-assads-prisons

Some of the videos are incredible. Kids who've probably grown up in prison. 

 

I understand the concern about what comes next of course but there is no way out of the misery for Syria without Assad gone. Just a tragedy so many had to die so he and his family could cling on to ruling a hollowed out shell of a country for another decade or so. 

Free Falling Foxes

Free Falling Foxes

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6 hours ago, Wymsey said:

I know that discussing migration on here gets very sensitive and some posts on the matter have been deleted in the past, but it's getting quite concerning.

 

There seems to be an ever-growing amount of UK-born residents starting to strongly disagree with placing migrants in numerous hotel chains (including in motorway services locations) and apparently disregarding the 'UK-own' homeless people.

 

Will these migrants be allow to stay in the UK in the long-run?

 

6 hours ago, Dunge said:

No offence here, because clearly it’s not just you or anything like that, but I’m getting rather sick of people raising “the problem” without offering anything resembling a thought-out solution.

 

I mean, given the alternatives, one could always just put up with it?

There may be a solution and one is certainly needed. However, not knowing what this might be, shouldn't prevent individual folk raising concerns or even complaining on FT or wherever else for that matter.

Our elected representatives should be the ones trying to resolve this and, listening to folks views.

Incidentally, the most vociferous folk I know on the subject of too much immigration, are 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants themselves. (the aforementioned 'UK born')

I find that both interesting and remarkable.

 

 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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28 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

 

There may be a solution and one is certainly needed. However, not knowing what this might be, shouldn't prevent individual folk raising concerns or even complaining on FT or wherever else for that matter.

Our elected representatives should be the ones trying to resolve this and, listening to folks views.

Incidentally, the most vociferous folk I know on the subject of too much immigration, are 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants themselves. (the aforementioned 'UK born')

I find that both interesting and remarkable.

 

 

Certainly not, but offering consistent complaints on the problem and no hint of solution does make the complaints seem rather hollow and of less value.

 

Also, the point above about some people not wanting to state their own solution to that problem (and some other problems) because they know people might view implicitly treating the suffering and death of a great many people as just another thing rather dimly still stands.

bovril

bovril

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A lot of people on social media about to find out again it's best to save yourself embarrassment later by at least waiting til the guy's arrested before turning him into an avatar of your own personal politics. 

Dunge

Dunge

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2 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

 

There may be a solution and one is certainly needed. However, not knowing what this might be, shouldn't prevent individual folk raising concerns or even complaining on FT or wherever else for that matter.

Our elected representatives should be the ones trying to resolve this and, listening to folks views.

Incidentally, the most vociferous folk I know on the subject of too much immigration, are 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants themselves. (the aforementioned 'UK born')

I find that both interesting and remarkable.

 

 

I appreciate that. It’s just I never see any development in this debate beyond some initial complaints and headlines. Even when you get someone like Farage talking about leaving the European human rights act, there’s never any detail or discussion of implications. One of the biggest complaints about Brexit was the lack of proposal and detail for what should come next. That was for a referendum and caused enough arguments, as we all know. This is for a subject about which people would in theory elect an actual government with an actual manifesto.

 

Stating concerns about society is one thing, understandable. But then people are saying “we need to limit migration”. That’s not a problem, that’s an incomplete solution to something else. If you’re going to present that as your solution, ok - but in that case I want to know the details and implications.

 

I just think it’s time to hold a few feet to the fire over this.

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