Premier League 2024/25

[CrazyKopCorner]

15 hours ago, Bilo said:

I think people forget two things.

 

Firstly, that Villa are a genuinely huge club historically. They have had multiple successful eras, are the reason why literally any club who isn't Villa, and wears claret and blue, wears claret and blue (largely to emulate them when they were dominant in the early days of the Football League) and have a huge fanbase. It may have been a while since they gave a trophy engraver anything to do, but they've spent the overwhelming majority of the past 50 years, and most of their existence, in the top flight.

 

Forest, by contrast, are hugely overrated as a club. Very little success before 1978 and very little success since 1980, their sole 'massive club' claims are based on three years out of 160. They'll claim that Arsenal wear red because they do, but Juventus wear black and white because Notts County do and they're hardly a big club. They haven't won a trophy for even longer than Villa, spent 23 years outside the top flight, have a much smaller fanbase, almost all of their success can be compressed into a tiny period and are seldom competitive. 

In terms of Forest if Cloughie had never gone there they would be a total and utter irrelevance in the world of football. 

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, Bilo said:

I think they're the most likely of the three to go straight back up. Same manager, same style, kept the core of the squad together and added to it as well and they're the only one of the three who haven't completely disgraced themselves. 

Think a lot depends on who they keep

[Bilo]

12 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

In terms of Forest if Cloughie had never gone there they would be a total and utter irrelevance in the world of football. 

True.

 

They'd have two FA Cups to their name in their entire history, one of them in the Victorian era. People forget that they're a pretty small club.

[Spudulike]

I don't think the record will get broken. Southampton fans can be relieved to see they play us and that will be enough to get them over the line....

 

BBC News - Southampton: What does it mean to be Premier League's worst team and will Saints replace Derby? - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cly8272z90do

 

[Bilo]

11 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Think a lot depends on who they keep

You'd think players like Philogene and Delap will probably go, but they didn't have them last season either.

[Leicesterpool]

19 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

In terms of Forest if Cloughie had never gone there they would be a total and utter irrelevance in the world of football. 

Likely yes, Cloughie was apparently close to taking the Cov job in the late 70s. So it could have been Cov instead of Forest.

[Bilo]

9 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

Likely yes, Cloughie was apparently close to taking the Cov job in the late 70s. So it could have been Cov instead of Forest.

I often wonder what would have happened if he'd replaced Jimmy Bloomfield here. Already a talented squad in the First Division that played really attractive football, you'd have to think he'd have done well.

[J. James]

6 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I often wonder what would have happened if he'd replaced Jimmy Bloomfield here. Already a talented squad in the First Division that played really attractive football, you'd have to think he'd have done well.

Ahhgghh.. Stop it, we'd have missed McLintock and probably stayed up, and we would surely have won goodness knows what with Cloughie.

Worthington may have stayed too.

Ahh.. If only. 😕

[The Doctor]

should just shoot there rather than laying it off.

[Arkie Bennett]

Liverpool got the benefit of the doubt twice there.

[StanSP]

Liverpool lucky not to concede a penalty. 

 

But that's a quality goal. 

[moore_94]

Great goal

[JimJams]

That's Saints down.

If it stays that way they set the record for lowest points total on confirmed relegation.

[UniFox21]

Liverpool fans singing "I know you won't believe us, we're gonna win the league" doesn't really fit. They aren't underdogs or anything like that 

[Md9]

I know it wasn’t like to happen but would have loved for spurs to lose today ange would lose his mind 

[Md9]

Fulham 1-1 

[The Doctor]

kinda depressing how far behind Bournemouth and Fulham we've fallen, like if you said three years ago that Fulham and Bournemouth would be streets ahead of us you'd seem insane 

[MattFox]

Liverpool wining the league at the KP and sending us down the same day?

[StanSP]

Liverpool could be this mistake prone in a couple of weeks and they'd still somehow be ahead

[The Doctor]

13 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Liverpool wining the league at the KP and sending us down the same day?

not mathematically possible as things stand. Fulham making Slot look like a fraud, they'd stay 11 clear of Arsenal so at best could be 14 points clear going into that game, potentially 17 at the end with 18 to play for

Edited 6 April by The Doctor

[Number 6]

8 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

kinda depressing how far behind Bournemouth and Fulham we've fallen, like if you said three years ago that Fulham and Bournemouth would be streets ahead of us you'd seem insane 

Trying to take this as a positive at the moment though...sort out the footballing operations side of the club and go back to a recruitment model which worked 10 years ago and we could be in a much better position in a few years' time. Things can turn around quickly if we recognise the failings and make steps to rectify.

[Md9]

Spurs found there level of team they can beat 

[MattFox]

 

2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Liverpool could be this mistake prone in a couple of weeks and they'd still somehow be ahead

Worst team that have won it in a long time

 

Remind me of some of the later Ferguson teams that won it by default

[StanSP]

That first touch from Muniz. 

[The Doctor]

2 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Trying to take this as a positive at the moment though...sort out the footballing operations side of the club and go back to a recruitment model which worked 10 years ago and we could be in a much better position in a few years' time. Things can turn around quickly if we recognise the failings and make steps to rectify.

true, I've got zero faith the board will even admit the footballing operations are failing currently