Realistic managerial replacements?

[Dan]

6 hours ago, ashbyj said:

Trust me we would get the Sunderland version of David Moyes.

This is my fear. I'm sure he went into Sunderland quite fresh off the back of a pretty underwhelming time. Just feels a bit soon for him although at the same time, if we did appoint him I'd feel quite confident we'd stay up.

[Heathrow fox]

4 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Agree with that now but we were ahead of them and we've definitely been a more attractive proposition for quite a few years in recent memory. Like you say not now. They've caught up and then some. But when we'd won the FA Cup and Premier League and had the squad we had, I'd say we put ourselves firmly as one of the most appealing jobs in England and even Europe.

 

I don't like talking about it because it's a hard pill to swallow how far we have fallen. But Villa weren't more attractive just because they played at Villa Park and won something 40 years ago. 

I think someone of Emerys class and experience would look at the Leicester job and conclude we were an elephant up a tree.

[Gamble92]

7 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

I think someone of Emerys class and experience would look at the Leicester job and conclude we were an elephant up a tree.

Yeah I'm quite surprised he went to Villa to be honest. I think typical British media tarnishing him unfairly with the supposed failure at Arsenal and even the stuff with his accent had a big part to play in his perception here. He's actually elite. 

[Dan]

1 hour ago, J. James said:

Err.. Villa are a much bigger team than us, with a much bigger fan base, much bigger honours board and much greater ambition.. It's frankly delusional to think we could or would attract someone with the pedigree of Emery atm..

 

We could have been top 4 at the time and he'd still have gone with Villa.

 

Sleeping giant.

We could've gotten him before Villa got there.

[Heathrow fox]

5 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

We could've gotten him before Villa got there.

Remind me are we talking September 2022 time and that horrendous start?

No way he comes to a very openly skint LCFC when all he had to do was wait a month or two for a better opportunity.Which it duly did

[Leicesterpool]

9 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

We could've gotten him before Villa got there.

He turned Newcastle down before Villa and that was just after takeover aswell. Villa promised him funds no doubt, whilst leicester at the time wouldn't. 

[SkidsFox]

9 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

Yeah I'm quite surprised he went to Villa to be honest. I think typical British media tarnishing him unfairly with the supposed failure at Arsenal and even the stuff with his accent had a big part to play in his perception here. He's actually elite. 

I've just realised why he decided to go to Villa. The Brummy accent makes it the last place where he'll get knocked for his English pronunciation. 

[winteriscoming]

If we end up going with someone with pl experience I hope we go all out for Sarri. 
Imo he’s the best option readily available. 

[Happy Fox]

1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

If we end up going with someone with pl experience I hope we go all out for Sarri. 
Imo he’s the best option readily available. 

Mancini? 

[winteriscoming]

10 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

Mancini? 

Still prefer Sarri over Mancini. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

11 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

We could've gotten him before Villa got there.

I know what you’re saying but we couldn’t have. Villa have given him a quite large budget but also Monchi as DOF. Emery was influential over that appointment. Here that poor man would have to deal with the man child and Rudkin. The two of them hinder us in many ways.

[Fear Of The Fox]

2 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

If we end up going with someone with pl experience I hope we go all out for Sarri. 
Imo he’s the best option readily available. 

Yeah let's offer the job to football dinosaurs which are near retirement age. Most teams in Europe that are doing well right now have relatively young managers. 

[WestLothianFox]

Jimmy Thelin

[winteriscoming]

1 minute ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Yeah let's offer the job to football dinosaurs which are near retirement age. Most teams in Europe that are doing well right now have relatively young managers. 

Agree. Can’t be doing with football dinosaurs like Sarri and Ranieri……. 
 

[lfu]

2 minutes ago, WestLothianFox said:

Jimmy Thelin

Or Thelin's replacement at Elfsborg, Oscar Hiljemark 👀

[Fear Of The Fox]

11 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Agree. Can’t be doing with football dinosaurs like Sarri and Ranieri……. 
 

What happened 8yrs ago was a once in a lifetime event and football has changed since then (for the worse). I'm not saying Sarri is a bad manager but he's not the answer if our board has any ambition to build a competitive team. 

If we're just looking for someone to save this season then yes Sarri might be a decent option. But there are some good managers out there now which can both save the season and prepare a long term project. 

I also believe we need a feisty manager. I personally had enough with all the soft managers we appoint. No passion in the sideline and no passion in the pitch. 

[CosbehFox]

21 hours ago, MPH said:

We need to stop Twerking in front of Potter. We’ve been after him twice now and he’s turned us down on both occasions.  At what point does it become  degrading to ourselves to keep going back?

Speak to Rudkin. It’s been his ambition every time. 
 

It probably won’t happen next time due to agent beef now 

[volpeazzurro]

33 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Yeah let's offer the job to football dinosaurs which are near retirement age. Most teams in Europe that are doing well right now have relatively young managers. 

Like Ancelotti, the young upstart!

[winteriscoming]

7 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

What happened 8yrs ago was a once in a lifetime event and football has changed since then (for the worse). I'm not saying Sarri is a bad manager but he's not the answer if our board has any ambition to build a competitive team. 

If we're just looking for someone to save this season then yes Sarri might be a decent option. But there are some good managers out there now which can both save the season and prepare a long term project. 

I also believe we need a feisty manager. I personally had enough with all the soft managers we appoint. No passion in the sideline and no passion in the pitch. 

Agree with what you’re saying I was just pointing out that we’ve normally gone with someone with previous premiership experience and imo he’d be the one I’d like us to get. 
Ideally I’d rather we went for someone abroad with no pl experience as there are better options out there. Schmidt, Garcia, Kovac, Terzic and Conceicao are the ones we should definitely be looking at. 

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I know what you’re saying but we couldn’t have. Villa have given him a quite large budget but also Monchi as DOF. Emery was influential over that appointment. Here that poor man would have to deal with the man child and Rudkin. The two of them hinder us in many ways.

The latter two sentences is why we’ve got a huge problem. You are never going to get a manager who will challenge above him. Cooper fits that fall guy perfectly 
 

Enzo found that out. His chum Guillem said it plenty times. Followed by Potter’s ‘if you change rhis, I’ll take the job’ 
 

The best hope we’ve got is that they bring in a confrontational foreign manager who impressed in interview and manages to win over a couple at board level, then challenges/calls out. 

Edited 27 October 2024 by CosbehFox

[CosbehFox]

People are forgetting the situation Emery took the Villa job in. They were down towards the bottom and Gerrard had wasted the Grealish money on the likes of Danny Ings. 
 

If Villa didn’t stay up that season, they would have been huge complications and they’d have faced similar issues to ourselves. 
 

It’s forgotten we still spent over £40 million in the January transfer window under Rodgers; that would have Emery in control of that as well 

[fox_favourite]

7 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

The latter two sentences is why we’ve got a huge problem. You are never going to get a manager who will challenge above him. Cooper fits that fall guy perfectly 
 

Enzo found that out. His chum Guillem said it plenty times. Followed by Potter’s ‘if you change rhis, I’ll take the job’ 
 

The best hope we’ve got is that they bring in a confrontation foreign manager who impressed in interview and manages to win over a couple at board level, then challenges/calls out. 

Sadly, it shouldn't take a manager to call it out. It shouldn't be his concern. That should come from board level and looking at the state of the footballing side. Relegation was a criminal offence. We had a comfortable mid table side and went down. That should have seen a change in DoF. His side of the business failed, his choices, failed.

 

Change was needed then. A younger, and well connected one to come in with fresh ideas.

 

Granted getting Enzo felt like a breath of fresh air, but alas he found above was stale. Now we have Cooper. Someone that can easily be pointed at for failures, rather than the man who employed him. 

 

Cooper seems a nice bloke, but not the standard or ability we need. We need a knowledgeable leader, like Enzo where players will respect him and his methods. Problem is aka Palace and west ham, get it wrong and you make life worse. 

 

DoF first then a new manager with a way forward that both can work on and can stabilise this club back to where it was before relegation. Build a young squad with high ceilings. Brighton is a good model at the moment. 

Edited 27 October 2024 by fox_favourite

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, fox_favourite said:

Sadly, it shouldn't take a manager to call it out. It shouldn't be his concern. That should come from board level and looking at the state of the footballing side. Relegation was a criminal offence. We had a comfortable mid table side and went down. That should have seen a change in DoF. His side of the business failed, his choices, failed.

 

Change was needed then. A younger, and well connected one to come in with fresh ideas.

 

Granted getting Enzo felt like a breath of fresh air, but alas he found above was stale. Now we have Cooper. Someone that can easily be pointed at for failures, rather than the man who employed him. 

 

Cooper seems a nice bloke, but not the standard or ability we need. 

Nope it shouldn’t but that’s where we are. 
 

Even if you want to take the position of defending the top hierarchy of the footballing side of things, you can easy advocate (as you have that) that a fresh approach and style is required. Every club needs to evolve 

[Fear Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Agree with what you’re saying I was just pointing out that we’ve normally gone with someone with previous premiership experience and imo he’d be the one I’d like us to get. 
Ideally I’d rather we went for someone abroad with no pl experience as there are better options out there. Schmidt, Garcia, Kovac, Terzic and Conceicao are the ones we should definitely be looking at. 

I'm positive for Conceicao but there's no way our board will appoint a Simeone style manager. For years now our players don't even argue with refs. This is a board policy and our players are instructed from the higher hierarchy to behave in a certain way. Conceicao, like Simeone, has no problem to order the players to get more yellow cards as an aggressive tactic. 

[Leicesterpool]

Benitez wouldn't surprise seeing as he was approached before when he was still at Newcastle. The reason's he didn't come was he hoping the Newcastle takeover was going to happen but sadly it never happened in his time their. Benitez brand of football ain't great but he would certainly organise the squad and you can't turn down a manager whose once lifted the champions league and europa league.