st albans fox Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Someone at the club needs to point out our success rate at trying to bring in proven PL players is appalling. There must be one (like mahrez + vardy) š
Groby_Blue Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 1 hour ago, Wortho said: For some reason Iāve always had an irrational hate for him. Heās third choice at Newcastle. For me, it's because he looks like an angry ferretĀ Ā Ā 1
Muzzy_no7 Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 Does he improve our 11? No. Ā Does he improve our matchday squad? Yes BUT we canāt afford to settle for that.Ā
filbertway Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 I am enjoying lots of people confidently going "well this is where we're at now" Ā Well I can guarantee we won't move forwards if the new plan is to just tie ourselves to bang average sh*te. Ā If we carry on signing 30 somethings who are already on the downward curve we'll be reliving the halycon days of 02-08 in no time. 3
kingfox Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 Ā Heād be right near the top of my list of football players that I never want to see in a Leicester shirt.Ā Ā The way Ruud sets up, I canāt see Targett being the right fit for that LB/LCB spot anyway.Ā Ā So on the basis of that, I hope Nixon is talking bullshit again š¤š»
Wortho Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 2 hours ago, CosbehFox said: Well he tried breaking Ricardo in half for Villa when we were hammering them 4-1 Thanks for reminding me about that!! Perhaps it wasnāt irrational after all, the c**t!!!
Claudio Fannieri Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 I am pretty sure he was linked when Cooper was assembling his must have premier league experience recruitment list so hopefully itās an old and lazy link.Ā 1
Mickyblueeyes Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 2 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Someone at the club needs to point out our success rate at trying to bring in proven PL players is appalling. We've had Vestegaard who was a really poor signing but now quite key. BDR is weird one. Ayew, if use correctly (which at the moment, he isnt) could be quite useful. You then have the waster, Bertrand. Upson a few years ago wasnt great. Ryan Bennett, the less said the better. Skipp, at this moment is very much a flop.Ā Ā However, you can also add on the other side of the argument, Huth and Albrighton who were excellent. Simpson was very good. Nathan Dyer filled a role. I know he gets a lot of flack but he did have 4 (?) seasons here and part of a good team, Ayoze Perez. Winks in the PL needs to up his standards to the standards he has set himself but a good player.Ā Ā Its a mixed bag (I dont know if I have missed anyone), the thing is, of the ones who have done the best (Albrighton, Huth, Dyer, Simpson) each was a signing which didnt tie us down for a long time (initially) and each had a point to prove. Guys like Bertrand, BDR etc. arguably dont - its a last pay day. There is definitely a role for the PL experience, we just dont always get it right.Ā 1
MPH Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 1 hour ago, filbertway said: I am enjoying lots of people confidently going "well this is where we're at now" Ā Well I can guarantee we won't move forwards if the new plan is to just tie ourselves to bang average sh*te. Ā If we carry on signing 30 somethings who are already on the downward curve we'll be reliving the halycon days of 02-08 in no time. Ā Ā so what else do you advise? Ā hate to say it, but if a Ā a player is going to be courted by us and by a top 6 club, Ā heās going to choose a top 6 club. Ā Even if heās courted by us and the likes of Brentford, Brighton or Villa.. heāll choose them over us. Heās likely to go to the likes of Spurs or Man U over us too Ā We are in the relegation Zone. We have financial problems. We are NOT Ā an attractive opposition. I donāt think itās us choosing the market we are shopping in, Ā I think we are shopping in the only market that is available to us. This is not a game of football manager. We canāt just buy a bunch of wonderkids and improve our fortunes. In fact, as it appears with Monga. Any wonderkids we have are likely to go in the other direction. Ā Ā The next few years are likely to be a long hard slog. 1
Kierzz Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 Better than our current full backs so definitely a yes from me
filbertway Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 1 minute ago, MPH said: Ā Ā so what else do you advise? Ā hate to say it, but if a Ā a player is going to be courted by us and by a top 6 club, Ā heās going to choose a top 6 club. Ā Even if heās courted by us and the likes of Brentford, Brighton or Villa.. heāll choose them over us. Heās likely to go to the likes of Spurs or Man U over us too Ā We are in the relegation Zone. We have financial problems. We are NOT Ā an attractive opposition. I donāt think itās us choosing the market we are shopping in, Ā I think we are shopping in the only market that is available to us. This is not a game of football manager. We canāt just buy a bunch of wonderkids and improve our fortunes. In fact, as it appears with Monga. Any wonderkids we have are likely to go in the other direction. Ā Ā The next few years are likely to be a long hard slog. What do I advise.Ā Ā Right let's look past the next 5 months. Ā It's summer 2025. We've now got Matt Targett on the books for the next 3 years who will be taking up a squad space as nobody in their right mind is going to sign him from us. Ā Is he going to strengthen us, nope. Is he going to cost a lot of money in wages? Almost certainly.Ā Ā I advise either waiting till the summer or signing a player that will improve the first 11. Let's not fill the squad up with bang average players who are earning more than they will earn anywhere else. We're literally just coming out the other side of that. Ā We've seen how devastating this tactic is and yet we're just jumping straight back into it Ā
MPH Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 Just to add, I donāt think the news breaking of Ā us having potentially broken PSR rules āagainā being released just before the window opened was any coincidence. I think thereās people around who took it badly that we evaded sanctions previously. That sort of thing isnāt going to help either.
AKCJ Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 2 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Does he improve our 11? No. Ā Does he improve our matchday squad? Yes BUT we canāt afford to settle for that.Ā He's definitely better than Kristiansen to be fair. 1 1
MPH Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, filbertway said: What do I advise.Ā Ā Right let's look past the next 5 months. Ā It's summer 2025. We've now got Matt Targett on the books for the next 3 years who will be taking up a squad space as nobody in their right mind is going to sign him from us. Ā Is he going to strengthen us, nope. Is he going to cost a lot of money in wages? Almost certainly.Ā Ā I advise either waiting till the summer or signing a player that will improve the first 11. Let's not fill the squad up with bang average players who are earning more than they will earn anywhere else. We're literally just coming out the other side of that. Ā We've seen how devastating this tactic is and yet we're just jumping straight back into it Ā Ā yes letās just sign a player who will improve our first 11. Itās that easy. I refer you back to my previous message. Edited 13 January 2025 by MPH
Muzzy_no7 Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 Just now, AKCJ said: He's definitely better than Kristiansen to be fair. On what grounds are you making this statement including the word DefinitelyšššĀ
AKCJ Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 Just now, Muzzy_no7 said: On what grounds are you making this statement including the word DefinitelyšššĀ On the grounds that Kristiansen is definitely shit. 1
coolhandfox Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 2 hours ago, filbertway said: I am enjoying lots of people confidently going "well this is where we're at now" Ā Well I can guarantee we won't move forwards if the new plan is to just tie ourselves to bang average sh*te. Ā If we carry on signing 30 somethings who are already on the downward curve we'll be reliving the halycon days of 02-08 in no time. Half of our title-winning back 4 were signed at that age Huth (30), Fuch (29) Ā Huth was unwanted by Stoke.Ā
Tuna Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 217 career appearances and he is pushing 30. Only 2 seasons where he has played more than 20 league games. Ā Not a good record. 1
Muzzy_no7 Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: On the grounds that Kristiansen is definitely shit. So shit that he was a key man for Thiago Mottaās magnificent Bologna campaign last year and he has 17 Denmark caps at his tender age. Ā Im by no means VKās biggest fan but Howe has preferred a CB or RB at LB for Newcastle over this Villa reject.Ā Ā Targett doesnāt improve our 11 and isnāt the right signing.Ā 3
filbertway Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Half of our title-winning back 4 were signed at that age Huth (30), Fuch (29) Ā Huth was unwanted by Stoke.Ā Both were big upgrades as I recall. Ā Ā The more I look at this, the more sense it makes. Ā
filbertway Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 8 minutes ago, MPH said: Ā yes letās just sign a player who will improve our first 11. Itās that easy. I refer you back to my previous message. If we can't then don't just sign players for the sake of it is my argument. Ā A player should either come in with scope to improve or they should be able to slot into the first 11. If you need temporary cover for injuries use the loan market. Ā Really simple criteria that'll stop you being stuck with a mass of dead wood. Ā Ā
coolhandfox Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, filbertway said: Both were big upgrades as I recall. Ā Ā The more I look at this, the more sense it makes. Ā I am not a MT fan but there is a lot of value to be found in the over 30s if you can get the right ones. Ā The problem is for every Fuch there is a Bertrand.Ā Ā Still think this is a Cooper target, not a RVN.Ā Edited 13 January 2025 by coolhandfox 1
Muzzy_no7 Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 Anything more than 2.5-3m would be just plain stupid.Ā Ā Rudkin will pay 7.5m 1
CaliFOXnia Posted 13 January 2025 Posted 13 January 2025 43 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: I am pretty sure he was linked when Cooper was assembling his must have premier league experience recruitment list so hopefully itās an old and lazy link.Ā This alone should be case closed for anyone involved with our recruitment process. That tactic hasnāt worked, the results of that are plain for all to see. Ā In fact, they should have Steve Cooperās recruitment list plastered all over the training ground and the KP like the old Wild West āWANTEDā posters, and every player on there should be banned from entering for life!Ā
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