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[Md9]

1 minute ago, davieG said:

 

What did he think all those attacking the Capitol  were doing?

 

Raging hypocrite amongst all his other character  traits

He is such a disgusting human , would be very surprised if he makes it the whole 4 years one way or another something will happen . 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Md9 said:

He can’t post a single thing with out insulting someone . No way this guy won for a second time with out some sort of cheating 

Wonder how many people wore masks at the Capitol riots?

Edited 8 June 2025 by Trav Le Bleu

[Md9]

2 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Wonder how many people wore masks at the Capitol riots?

Probably all of them and they all got a pardon . One rule for trump as his army of fools and one for everyone else 

[Spudulike]

13 hours ago, accessory said:

Because saying some hurty words at a music festival is clearly equivalent to slaughtering 50000+ kids and starving even more..

Hurty words are certainly going to help the children of Gaza and can only empower even more to take to the streets to intimidate the Jewish communities. All good though if it means even more 'celebs' being cancelled.

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Hurty words are certainly going to help the children of Gaza and can only empower even more to take to the streets to intimidate the Jewish communities. All good though if it means even more 'celebs' being cancelled.

... I'm curious to know if there's a point of view on the general matter in the offing here, rather than just a take on what particular talking heads are saying about it.

 

That being said, I'd be fine with a "no comment" given how inflammatory that general matter is. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

13 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Hurty words are certainly going to help the children of Gaza and can only empower even more to take to the streets to intimidate the Jewish communities. All good though if it means even more 'celebs' being cancelled.

So you shouldn't speak out against mindless slaughter?

 

Had Israel not retaliated how they have, I'm certain then the hurty words would be directed at Hamas.

[Spudulike]

16 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

... I'm curious to know if there's a point of view on the general matter in the offing here, rather than just a take on what particular talking heads are saying about it.

 

That being said, I'd be fine with a "no comment" given how inflammatory that general matter is. 

My point of view is that I'm sick to death of celebrities using their platform to tell us how we should behave and live our lives. Gaza is just the latest fashionable cause to hitch their wagon. Their opinions are no more important than anyone else's. I don't want to hear them.

 

Is Dawn French really truly sorry for that appalling, ignorant misguided video or just concerned about her fading career (bank balance)?

 

I agree, 'no comment' is probably the best position given the complexities surrounding the middle east conflict. I would hope that others take it on board.

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

My point of view is that I'm sick to death of celebrities using their platform to tell us how we should behave and live our lives. Gaza is just the latest fashionable cause to hitch their wagon. Their opinions are no more important than anyone else's. I don't want to hear them.

 

Is Dawn French really truly sorry for that appalling, ignorant misguided video or just concerned about her fading career (bank balance)?

 

I agree, 'no comment' is probably the best position given the complexities surrounding the middle east conflict. I would hope that others take it on board.

Fair enough, that was the matter on what I wanted a response. 

 

The only thing I'll add is that given the death and suffering being engendered, it's going to be something that be definition will cause raised tempers and lots of opinion. 

 

Edit: a reasonable person might think that the natural world gives our species more than enough challenges than inventing more among ourselves.

Edited 8 June 2025 by leicsmac

[Zear0]

8 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

My point of view is that I'm sick to death of celebrities using their platform to tell us how we should behave and live our lives. Gaza is just the latest fashionable cause to hitch their wagon. Their opinions are no more important than anyone else's. I don't want to hear them.

 

Is Dawn French really truly sorry for that appalling, ignorant misguided video or just concerned about her fading career (bank balance)?

 

I agree, 'no comment' is probably the best position given the complexities surrounding the middle east conflict. I would hope that others take it on board.

Whilst I often agree that "no comment" is the best approach for the majority of dross that is spewed out the news organisations that are moving more into an infotainment space, in this case I disagree. 

 

This is the most blatant and visual genocide of this generation and I find it grotesque how people are unable to criticise what is happening in front of our very eyes. I really do want to hear more people speak out against what's going on there. Even in this forum, the "whataboutary" combined with some of the most bizarre mental gymnastics on journalistic balance is quite shameful and I've tried not to engage as I find it embarrassing. 

 

Shouldn't ever be fearful, or indeed disinterested, for speaking out against wrongdoing. 

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Zear0 said:

Whilst I often agree that "no comment" is the best approach for the majority of dross that is spewed out the news organisations that are moving more into an infotainment space, in this case I disagree. 

 

This is the most blatant and visual genocide of this generation and I find it grotesque how people are unable to criticise what is happening in front of our very eyes. I really do want to hear more people speak out against what's going on there. Even in this forum, the "whataboutary" combined with some of the most bizarre mental gymnastics on journalistic balance is quite shameful and I've tried not to engage as I find it embarrassing. 

 

Shouldn't ever be fearful, or indeed disinterested, for speaking out against wrongdoing. 

I try to be a quiet as possible on this because I know feelings naturally run high but if a genocide is ongoing then why isn’t more pressure put on hamas to surrender and agree to disarm ?  That would bring about an end to the war and would have the added benefit that leaves BN in a precarious political position. The war sustains his administration.   The war is given oxygen by the leaders on both sides. the democratically elected Israeli ones will hopefully be removed not long after the war ends.  Those in Gaza purporting to represent the enclave have to be got rid of by force or encouragement to leave by their allies in the gulf. They need to be convinced that they are better off agreeing to leave and keep their lives than waiting for the IDF to inevitably kill them which simply extends the desperate situation that the residents of Gaza continue to suffer with the dreadful ongoing  ‘collateral damage’ which in urban warfare is grim. (And we know Israel cares little for the families of Hamas members if they have an opportunity to take a fighter or administrator out). 

Edited 8 June 2025 by st albans fox

[Zear0]

13 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I try to be a quiet as possible on this because I know feelings naturally run high but if a genocide is ongoing (btw it’s a pretty crap one given that the population of Gaza hasn’t reduced notably since autumn 2023 apart from approx 100k who paid to leave pre Rafah crossing closure may 2024) then why isn’t more pressure put on hamas to surrender and agree to disarm ?  That would bring about an end to the war and would have the added benefit that leaves BN in a precarious political position. The war sustains his administration.   The war is given oxygen by the leaders on both sides. the democratically elected Israeli ones will hopefully be removed not long after the war ends.  Those in Gaza purporting to represent the enclave have to be got rid of by force or encouragement to leave by their allies in the gulf. They need to be convinced that they are better off agreeing to leave and keep their lives than waiting for the IDF to inevitably kill them which simply extends the desperate situation that the residents of Gaza continue to suffer with the dreadful ongoing  ‘collateral damage’ which in urban warfare is grim. (And we know Israel cares little for the families of Hamas members if they have an opportunity to take a fighter or administrator out). 

I'm out. 

[Alf Bentley]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/los-angeles-dress-rehearsal-trump/683078/

 

"Yesterday, President Donald Trump ordered the National Guard to quell disorderly protests against immigration-enforcement personnel in Los Angeles. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth declared his readiness to obey Trump by mobilizing the U.S. Marines as well. These threats look theatrical and pointless. The state, counties, and cities of California employ more than 75,000 uniformed law-enforcement personnel with arrest powers. The Los Angeles Police Department alone numbers nearly 9,000 uniformed officers. They can surely handle some dozens of agitators throwing rocks, shooting fireworks, and impeding vehicular traffic [...]

 

[...] Since Trump’s return to the presidency in January, many political observers have puzzled over a seeming paradox. On the one hand, Trump keeps doing corrupt and illegal things. If and when his party loses its majorities in Congress—and thus the ability to protect Trump from investigation and accountability—he will likely face severe legal danger. On the other hand, Trump is doing extreme and unpopular things that seem certain to doom his party’s majorities in the 2026 elections. Doesn’t Trump know that the midterms are coming? Why isn’t he more worried? This weekend’s events suggest an answer. Trump knows full well that the midterms are coming. He is worried. But he might already be testing ways to protect himself that could end in subverting those elections’ integrity. So far, the results must be gratifying to him—and deeply ominous to anyone who hopes to preserve free and fair elections in the United States under this corrupt, authoritarian, and lawless presidency".

 

Written by David Frum, ex-speech writer for George W. Bush....

[st albans fox]

31 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

I'm out. 

That’s fair

I’ve edited 

[Lionator]

Will Israel sink Thunberg’s aid ship do we think? It might seem improbable but realistically who would stop them? 

[leicsmac]

11 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Will Israel sink Thunberg’s aid ship do we think? It might seem improbable but realistically who would stop them? 

I doubt it, that would be crossing a line that I think next to no one would cross. If that wasn't the case, some US "deniable asset" would have done it back when she was causing problems for Felon#45 (as he was then).

[Parafox]

7 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Wonder how many people wore masks at the Capitol riots?

 

Well, the guy dressed as a native American Indian sure stood out.

 

He clearly didn't get the irony of his costume.

 

 

[StanSP]

8 hours ago, Md9 said:

He can’t post a single thing with out insulting someone . No way this guy won for a second time with out some sort of cheating 

does the mask thing apply to any MAGA protests that may occur in future...?

 

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

I try to be a quiet as possible on this because I know feelings naturally run high but if a genocide is ongoing then why isn’t more pressure put on hamas to surrender and agree to disarm ?  That would bring about an end to the war and would have the added benefit that leaves BN in a precarious political position. The war sustains his administration.   The war is given oxygen by the leaders on both sides. the democratically elected Israeli ones will hopefully be removed not long after the war ends.  Those in Gaza purporting to represent the enclave have to be got rid of by force or encouragement to leave by their allies in the gulf. They need to be convinced that they are better off agreeing to leave and keep their lives than waiting for the IDF to inevitably kill them which simply extends the desperate situation that the residents of Gaza continue to suffer with the dreadful ongoing  ‘collateral damage’ which in urban warfare is grim. (And we know Israel cares little for the families of Hamas members if they have an opportunity to take a fighter or administrator out). 

 

Sorry. This is bollox.

 

Do you really believe that if Hamas give up their fight against Israel, that the IDF and Netanyahu will say OK, thanks, we'll leave you alone?

 

Both sides want to wipe each other off the face of the world.

 

Problem is superiority. Israel has by far superior military, weapons, financial support etc. They are the dominant force in this.

 

The issue for me is, that dominance is being directed at every Palestinian, regardless of age, innocence or guilt, civilian or armed soldier. It's totally indiscriminate. Israel will destroy Palestine and they won't care about who gets blasted into kingdom come.

[Torquay Gunner]

43 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I doubt it, that would be crossing a line that I think next to no one would cross. If that wasn't the case, some US "deniable asset" would have done it back when she was causing problems for Felon#45 (as he was then).

Do you really think by this stage Israel cares what the world thinks of them?  I can’t imagine any such blowback hurting them, since they seem quite willing to weaponize food and starve a couple of million people in full glare of that world. 

[Md9]

The amount of times he gets caught out lying is unbelievable 

[Md9]

Never want to hear Vance complain about free speech in any other country again 

[leicsmac]

15 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Do you really think by this stage Israel cares what the world thinks of them?  I can’t imagine any such blowback hurting them, since they seem quite willing to weaponize food and starve a couple of million people in full glare of that world. 

I think that there are world actors as nasty as them who also have a reason to cause her harm, but they haven't done so (as yet).

 

I do know what you mean though, and I truly hope that Miss Thunberg stays safe. 

[Clogger_]

4 hours ago, Spudulike said:

My point of view is that I'm sick to death of celebrities using their platform to tell us how we should behave and live our lives. Gaza is just the latest fashionable cause to hitch their wagon. Their opinions are no more important than anyone else's. I don't want to hear them.

 

Is Dawn French really truly sorry for that appalling, ignorant misguided video or just concerned about her fading career (bank balance)?

 

I agree, 'no comment' is probably the best position given the complexities surrounding the middle east conflict. I would hope that others take it on board.

"fashionable cause": How many dead?

 

"hope others take it on board": For sure it's easier to ignore if nobody speaks out.

 

 

[Clogger_]

3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

That’s fair

I’ve edited 

You're quite the propagandist! However you have picked an unfortunate cause

[Clogger_]

29 minutes ago, Md9 said:

Never want to hear Vance complain about free speech in any other country again 

Let the Americans worry about Vance. We should be concerned about the fifth column in *this* country who feign to treat such bollox seriously, and who are determined follow the Trump administration's lead.