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12 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

The linesman had an unobstructed line of sight. It was an excellent offside line by the defence, Maguire and 3 teammates were offside before the freekick and didn’t move from that offside position. The decision was so poor it looked corrupt. 

I agree.  Probably cock up rather than conspiracy but the linesman should be utterly embarrassed and suspended for any further Man U games. The only positive is that we were highly unlikely to get to the final and we don't need more games

Posted
1 minute ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

What?!?

They were. I agree with Amorin. Possibly the worst Utd side ever. Be a bit more attacking second half and we win that comfortably. Along with Palace, Fulham, Forest and Bournemouth who’ve beaten them at home in the league. This really isn’t a tough game. We made it difficult for ourselves. 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

They were. I agree with Amorin. Possibly the worst Utd side ever. Be a bit more attacking second half and we win that comfortably. Along with Palace, Fulham, Forest and Bournemouth who’ve beaten them at home in the league. This really isn’t a tough game. We made it difficult for ourselves. 

Thing we are forgetting here. The worst United side ever, is still better than the Rudkin master class that is the worst Leicester side ever. 

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Posted

Honest from Amorin. Could've used the old chestnut that he'd not seen a replay so can't comment but actually said the goal was offside and unfair to the opponent. Unusual.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

You’re on the wind up mate, the Man U players were 2-3 steps at least ahead of our last line of defence and the linesman would’ve had the best view of that in the whole stadium. There was no one blocking his view of Maguire and it was from a dead ball situation - that’s a simple decision in Sunday league football, a well paid assistant referee earning £60k plus expenses a year minimum should not be missing decisions like that. 

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Black line roughly his line of sight.

 

3 man u players who are blocking his view from the space behind. Red circle is where a player could be standing that he can't see.

 

Whatever decision he made, he would have been guessing in my opinion.

 

I'm not expecting to win any arguments on this, especially when emotions are fresh, but I'll always try and be reasonable in looking at a situation. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

They were. I agree with Amorin. Possibly the worst Utd side ever. Be a bit more attacking second half and we win that comfortably. Along with Palace, Fulham, Forest and Bournemouth who’ve beaten them at home in the league. This really isn’t a tough game. We made it difficult for ourselves. 

I can remember the United side that got relegated so not the worst. As for tonight as well as the useless linesman the ref certainly gave the free kick in reaction to the crowd despite the ball hitting Justin at almost point blank

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I was in the corporate home area tonight and the away fans were magnificent. I just tried to post a photo but it was too big. Bravo everyone.

 

As for the game… underwelming really. We did ok until we had the opportunity to shit our pants and then we did.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, filbertway said:

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Black line roughly his line of sight.

 

3 man u players who are blocking his view from the space behind. Red circle is where a player could be standing that he can't see.

 

Whatever decision he made, he would have been guessing in my opinion.

 

I'm not expecting to win any arguments on this, especially when emotions are fresh, but I'll always try and be reasonable in looking at a situation. 

I personally think that's as clear as day. In any case, every one of them attackers are interfering in play regardless and even playing devil's advocate that he was somehow "obstructed" on that particular line there's no excuse for missing the front two who are well well beyond the rest

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Not sure what that proves other than his vision is ****ing shit. If he can't see the red all of them, are in front of the blue then he's in the wrong ****ing job!

As bad a decision as the 97 Chelsea game that we were shafted

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Posted
1 hour ago, filbertway said:

image.thumb.png.8718a0423f0af8aa6c9af8be5f575a38.png

 

 

Black line roughly his line of sight.

 

3 man u players who are blocking his view from the space behind. Red circle is where a player could be standing that he can't see.

 

Whatever decision he made, he would have been guessing in my opinion.

 

I'm not expecting to win any arguments on this, especially when emotions are fresh, but I'll always try and be reasonable in looking at a situation. 

The linesman was on a Maguires side of the pitch though, so looking straight at him.  I know because 5 minutes earlier the same linesman had given a throw in to them, when it was clearly our throw, and the ref rightly overturned it, and gave it to us.  The linesman was on that side of the pitch, and it was straight in front of him. I dont have a scooby how he thought it was their throw.  He was the same linesman who didnt spot that Maguire and three of his hoppos were offside.

Ultimately, it was incompetant officiating, but rather that than VAR!   Ive always been much happier with some go for you, some dont, when it was just the ref and linesmans decision.  I hate VAR, its one of the many things that is sucking the life out of football, so im not going to harp on about it. For me it was just one that went against us. We move on.

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That was as corrupt as it gets. I'm not a conspricay theorist but there is absolutely zero logic in the free kick being given and then the offside not being given. To be shafted once is unfortunate but to be shafted twice in the space of a minute that leads to a winning goal is simply corruption.  Would either the free kick been given or the offside not given if it was at the other end? 100% not on both counts. I expected nothing from tonight but to lose like that is absolutely disgusting!

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Posted
1 hour ago, filbertway said:

image.thumb.png.8718a0423f0af8aa6c9af8be5f575a38.png

 

 

Black line roughly his line of sight.

 

3 man u players who are blocking his view from the space behind. Red circle is where a player could be standing that he can't see.

 

Whatever decision he made, he would have been guessing in my opinion.

 

I'm not expecting to win any arguments on this, especially when emotions are fresh, but I'll always try and be reasonable in looking at a situation. 

The lino isn't looking at a still image. It's his job to be aware of how many players are there and where they're standing or running into.

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Football needs to go back to the old offside rule, then there would be none of this is he active or not nonsense. Anyone to the left of that black line is offside end of!  

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, filbertway said:

image.thumb.png.8718a0423f0af8aa6c9af8be5f575a38.png

 

 

Black line roughly his line of sight.

 

3 man u players who are blocking his view from the space behind. Red circle is where a player could be standing that he can't see.

 

Whatever decision he made, he would have been guessing in my opinion.

 

I'm not expecting to win any arguments on this, especially when emotions are fresh, but I'll always try and be reasonable in looking at a situation. 

I would argue then from his line of sight they are definitely offside. He shouldn't be assuming there's a player there, if he can't see anyone in the space you've have ringed, then he's not there to the linesman. So in that way he's offside. What is also clear is that there's actually day light between Maguire and our defensive line, so at some point he would have seen there wasn't a player. 

 

But the last minute to get a dodgy free kick AND a dodgy offside is sheer incompetence, or corruption. If it's incompetence, then the ref and lino shouldn't be part of these games if they are influenced by the atmosphere.

 

The other thing I want to highlight is our defensive line. That is spot on. It's a line and everyone moves together. It isn't that which is at fault. Though I do wonder if Mads could have done better. 

 

Good news is we're out. Didn't want to progress anyway. Not this season, it's frustrating at the manner we went out. 

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Posted
6 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

As bad a decision as the 97 Chelsea game that we were shafted

I think it has to be as it's just so blatant - It'd never had stood if it'd us that had scored it in a million years - that's why you know the game is bent 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I think it has to be as it's just so blatant - It'd never had stood if it'd us that had scored it in a million years - that's why you know the game is bent 

Even more so now that.Sky are so invested in the so called big 6

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