Next Manager

[Fox1norfolk]

41 minutes ago, john ridley said:

Why would  any manager like him want to come here ?I'm afraid we're  not shopping in M&S anymore 

We might have the best training facilities in the UK, but that’s about it. A squad who will struggle in the championship and many are going to be very difficult to sell on. Ideally if the new manager could start with a clean sheet, but that’s not going to happen. There is something fundamentally wrong with the complete set-up that’s why we have a rubbish manger, rubbish squad, rubbish recruitment and bad financial planning. Any successful manager will not touch us with a barge pole.

[Guppys Love Child]

16 minutes ago, Plastik Man said:

It's is a worry. I can't stand him. He oozes clichés.

 

He was linked in the past and plays (or tries to play) the way Top wants.

 

What's even more worrying is that he is available, free.

 

Be afraid...

I don't want Martin anywhere near the club.

 

The bloke is a total looney, his post match interviews are cringeworthy, and if the club cast the net a little further out and actually worked at this a bit by not looking in the pool of usual suspects we could do a whole lot better..... but hey this is Leicester we're talking about, owned by a idiot, employing other idiots who have a brilliant track record  and have done such a Stella job so far.

 

[sphericalfox]

Pepijns Lijnders is available and likes 'intensity' 

Edited 9 April by sphericalfox

[Lad1966]

What ever happens next season, we are going  to be a team in transition and we need a manager that will help us through that transition, similar to Pruel. I don’t know who out there that would that profile, but that’s a type of manager I would go for.

[Ryanlcfc3]

About style of play, I'd prefer someone who sets up with high energy, direct and physical approach by going man-to-man and press the opposition like Thomas Frank sets up at Brentford. Not saying get him but its that style of football I like to see us go for. On the ball, possession based attacking minded with high defensive line with positional discipline.

[Ian Nacho]

Russell Martin actually speaks quiet well. You can tell he's got strong leadership and emotional intelligence skills. Just not so sure about the tactical side long term though. 

[BenTheFox]

I find Russell Martin rather dislikeable. However, most teams in the championship couldn't live with his Southampton side. They went on a 25 game unbeaten streak. If the objective is to get promoted, then we could do a lot worse. I'm almost certain we'd be go straight back down if we did go up and we kept him though. 

Edited 9 April by BenTheFox

[Craig]

9 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I find Russell Martin rather dislikeable. However, most teams in the championship couldn't livee with his Southampton side. They went on a 25 game unbeaten streak. If the objective to get promoted, then we could do a lot worse. I'm almost certain we'd be go straight back down if we did go up and we kept him though. 

Absolutely. 

We have the players and younger players to dominate most sides, so we would be fine under Martin at that level.

 

However, his "philosophy" is non-negotiable. Without any flexibility it would mean another one step up, but two steps back. 

Edited 9 April by Craig

[Kitchandro]

The Martin apologists have already spawned on this thread I see.

 

4 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I find Russell Martin rather dislikeable. However, most teams in the championship couldn't livee with his Southampton side. They went on a 25 game unbeaten streak. If the objective to get promoted, then we could do a lot worse. I'm almost certain we'd be go straight back down if we did go up and we kept him though. 

The objective has to be some long term optimism and enjoyment from watching football. With Martin we get a certainty of continuing to play horrible to watch, slow football that will be utterly destroyed at the level we are aiming to play at. It would be an unforgivable, totally unprofessional appointment on the level of Cooper and RVN.

 

I want nothing to do with the club if he’s the manager. I mean I’ve already stopped watching but I guess I’ll start burning my retro shirts or something if he’s our choice.

[jim5000]

2 hours ago, LVFox said:

He'd be my number 1 choice, the more I think about it. Concerns about a lack of pragmatism for the PL, but think he'd set the right standards and demand things to change at Seagrave. Loves a youngster too which is probably number 1 on my list.

 

No guarantees he'd take it at all, but if he did, he can rescue Kyogo from Rennes and bring him in too please 

Yes, let’s take the only manager we beat in 2025!

[kingfox]

This is what he said on Lineker’s podcast, with how frustrated a lot of our fanbase is with that style, he’s best to stay away.

I’m not sure there’s certain clubs I could go into and ask for real patience when the goalkeeper is standing on the ball for 25 seconds and they want it put forward quickly because that’s what they’ve been used to.

"I am aware that I’ve probably limited my job options somewhat." 

He added: “I’m really aware that my next venture might be abroad as well. I’d be open to that. I want to do that at some point."

[BenTheFox]

1 minute ago, kingfox said:

This is what he said on Lineker’s podcast, with how frustrated a lot of our fanbase is with that style, he’s best to stay away.

I’m not sure there’s certain clubs I could go into and ask for real patience when the goalkeeper is standing on the ball for 25 seconds and they want it put forward quickly because that’s what they’ve been used to.

"I am aware that I’ve probably limited my job options somewhat." 

He added: “I’m really aware that my next venture might be abroad as well. I’d be open to that. I want to do that at some point."

It's funny because we have a squad that would probably be better suited to him in the championship than the other extreme which is someone like Sean Dyche. Most of us would happily see most of this squad binned off, but that's not going to happen and if it's a case of getting a manager suited to a our current playing squad to get us out of the championship, then he's a strong candidate, whether we like it or not. 

[BenTheFox]

19 minutes ago, Craig said:

Absolutely. 

We have the players and younger players to dominate most sides, so we would be fine under Martin at that level.

 

However, his "philosophy" is non-negotiable. Without any flexibility it would mean another one step up, but two steps back. 

We'd get shithoused in a few games, whether it be from a set piece, a breakaway or getting caught overplaying, but I think we'd win over 25 games with him and would therefore make the playoffs at least. 

[kingfox]

5 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

It's funny because we have a squad that would probably be better suited to him in the championship than the other extreme which is someone like Sean Dyche. Most of us would happily see most of this squad binned off, but that's not going to happen and if it's a case of getting a manager suited to a our current playing squad to get us out of the championship, then he's a strong candidate, whether we like it or not. 

Enzo’s fingerprints are still firmly on our current squad, no doubt many of them would be better suited to a Martin style over a Dyche one. 
 

But I’ve banged this drum on here for the past week, heavy possession is all well and good in the Championship, but recent history for newly promoted teams shows it’s not the right ingredient in the Premier League. Just look how Kompany and Martin both failed because they were too stubborn in their ways. 
 

If the Premier League continues to evolve like it is, newly promoted teams are probably best off with a Nuno type, or Iraola, Frank, Glasner. Managers that are not obsessed with being Man City lite. 
 

That’s why we should be turning our attentions to someone like Danny Rohl or similar. 
 

Martin may get you up, but would his specific style keep you up, if this season is anything to go by…no. So maybe a venture abroad with a City Group team might actually be best for him. 

[sbfox]

1 hour ago, kingfox said:

Enzo’s fingerprints are still firmly on our current squad, no doubt many of them would be better suited to a Martin style over a Dyche one. 
 

But I’ve banged this drum on here for the past week, heavy possession is all well and good in the Championship, but recent history for newly promoted teams shows it’s not the right ingredient in the Premier League. Just look how Kompany and Martin both failed because they were too stubborn in their ways. 
 

If the Premier League continues to evolve like it is, newly promoted teams are probably best off with a Nuno type, or Iraola, Frank, Glasner. Managers that are not obsessed with being Man City lite. 
 

That’s why we should be turning our attentions to someone like Danny Rohl or similar. 
 

Martin may get you up, but would his specific style keep you up, if this season is anything to go by…no. So maybe a venture abroad with a City Group team might actually be best for him. 

Tbf, newly promoted clubs are better off with massive (wise) investment in players, rather than anything particularly tactical. Maresca would have kept us up with 'his' style had the Board authorised a number of high quality signings (rather that Oliver Skipp...). 

[LCFCCHRIS]

Points deductions and sanctions aside, any style of play should see us comfortably there or there abouts for promotion. 

[Vindaloo FOX]

Barry Manilow

[Plastik Man]

18 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

Barry Manilow

In the nose? 🤔

[hedersfox]

Robbie Keane.

[PAULCFC]

3 hours ago, LCFCCHRIS said:

Points deductions and sanctions aside, any style of play should see us comfortably there or there abouts for promotion. 

Really? Can't see it myself!

[LCFCJohn]

3 hours ago, sbfox said:

Tbf, newly promoted clubs are better off with massive (wise) investment in players, rather than anything particularly tactical. Maresca would have kept us up with 'his' style had the Board authorised a number of high quality signings (rather that Oliver Skipp...). 

Sorry, this idea Marseca ‘would’ have kept us up is delusional.

 

We lost just under 25% of games last season in the Championship. That is huge for a side winning the league. We had a softness to us and we were easy to beat. Plymouth, Bristol City and Millwall found the solution easy enough. Beating Maresca’s Leicester was easy and needed no tactical nouse. Just play the ball into the (Leicester right, your left) channel to someone with pace and you’ll have all the time in the world to pick your spot.

 

Yes we also had a huge win rate and that saw us up. But for a promoted side, it is a lot more likely that the win rate dries up against increased quality opposition whereas the fact we were easy to beat would be exacerbated and exploited further.

 

[davieG]

https://saintsmarching.com/leicester-city-and-southampton-could-see-fantastic-win-win-coaching-swap

 

Russell Martin and Steve Cooper could swap sides soon
Leicester City are weighing Russell Martin's head-coach capabilities and the former Saint rallying their upward ascent is quite an open possibility.

On the other hand, it goes without saying that Southampton have also resumed their manager shortlisting process recently. Further, in a bizarre sequence of events, the Saints have also found some manager inspiration from Leicester City.

And it turns out that head coach has also been a free agent for as long as Martin has been. It's a pretty simple guess now, that individual is none other than Steve Cooper whom Birmingham World has mentioned as favourite for the role.

Yes, that Nottingham Forest gaffer who uplifted them to the Premier League after a prolonged top-flight wait. Add to the fact that he retained their Premier League status during his tenure and neither let Leicester fall down quickly, Cooper's addition could be a game-changer at St. Mary's.

On the flipside, Russell Martin is an elite leader when it comes to the Championship meaning both the Saints as well as the Foxes could immediately benefit from swapping previous coaches.

 

 

Do you eventually find your real level - Championship?

[Fox1norfolk]

7 hours ago, LCFCCHRIS said:

Points deductions and sanctions aside, any style of play should see us comfortably there or there abouts for promotion. 

After watching a few championship matches I’m no too sure about that 

[kingfox]

9 hours ago, sbfox said:

Tbf, newly promoted clubs are better off with massive (wise) investment in players, rather than anything particularly tactical. Maresca would have kept us up with 'his' style had the Board authorised a number of high quality signings (rather that Oliver Skipp...). 

If Enzo kept with a more intricate style, I think he would have faced the same challenges Southampton did under Martin imo. What I believe Enzo would have done though is make us a threat to counter attack. Ayew and Reid wouldn’t have come through the door, that’s for sure. 
 

But as they showed on Monday Night Football, only 4/12 newly promoted teams in the past four season’s have stayed up. All four went about it in a different manner rather than tippy tappy nonsense. Brentford were horrible to play against. Forest & Bournemouth weren’t pretty but gritted it out, now they’ve both built a fast & direct style under Nuno & Iraola. While in Fulham’s case, they already had a goalscorer in Mitrovic, while the signing of Palhinha transformed them. 
 

To give yourself the best chance of staying up, you have to have some physicality about you, while in an attacking sense, you have to be a threat on fast breaks/counter attacks. 
 

We haven’t showed any of those two things, especially under Ruud. 

[Foxdiamond]

The club really should see beyond the narrow horizon that doesn't go any further than the likes of Russell Martin