The boy Linacre Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 (edited) In the end we are where we are, destroyed over the last 3 years+ by a totally misguided and bereft group of decision makers. IF Pearson and post Pearson has told us anything AT LEICESTER the manager has very little longevity and in the game as whole managers do well to be there 3 seasons. Clubs and fans are impatient for success. We may get some points deduction BUT there are so many things to sort currently: 1) RVN isn't the man to get us back up 2) There is a dozen if not 10 deadwood in that squad that needs to go for horrendous ability and expensive wages 3) A group of players that has some/above average ability, are committed to play for the club and the badge and want and desire success THIS SEASON i.e. promotion, needs to be brought in to replace By hook or by crook we just need to get up and whatever as fans we think that misguided group may well have settled on Martin, though not popular we just have to deal with & live with it and HOPE he gets results that we want, and if we are promoted we don't make the mistakes we did from last July onwards. Since the 13th July 2015 including Dean Smith, the next manager will be the 9th, if the new incumbent fails he will be gone, if he's successful, he'll last a couple of years and I suspect the decision group will be desperate to be promoted first time, they know they have to right the ship properly and quickly. Though not popular, its not our choice sadly. Edited 27 May 2025 by The boy Linacre
murphy Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 We have just been afforded a sneak preview, a dress rehearsal, highlighting for all to see how Martin's tactics fail spectacularly for a promoted club in the Premier League. Almost a 'try before you buy'.... And it seems we're still going to buy anyway. Madness. 1 1
Foxin_Mad Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 I can only assume that Rudkin believes because we are such a superior club that is was Martin who got them promoted against the odds. They still believe we are a Premier League club who have been treated badly by the Premier League. It’s just shows the sheer arrogance that when something is toxic, they turn it up a notch. What do they hope all the anti fans don’t come again and they can replace with more happy clappers who love a bit of centre back passing?!
Chelmofox Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 4 minutes ago, murphy said: We have just been afforded a sneak preview, a dress rehearsal, highlighting for all to see how Martin's tactics fail spectacularly for a promoted club in the Premier League. Almost a 'try before you buy'.... And it seems we're still going to buy anyway. Madness. Because when he does his Powerpoint he will be able to point out why it went wrong, and point out why it wasn't him. Then we will talk about the massive transfer kitty he will get. Then it all happens again.
ClaphamFox Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 (edited) 11 hours ago, Chelmofox said: Because when he does his Powerpoint he will be able to point out why it went wrong, and point out why it wasn't him. Then we will talk about the massive transfer kitty he will get. Then it all happens again. "So, you promise you'll change your tactics and become more defensively solid, then? "Yes, absolutely. Do you promise I've really got that massive transfer kitty you mentioned?" "Yes, absolutely." [Everybody in the room averts their gaze from each other and clears their throat] Edited 27 May 2025 by ClaphamFox 4
Jattdogg Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 I'd rather have John Terry have a crack at taking us up and trying to shag the wags then stick with RVN. That's how bad RVN is for city. Lol
Philkeavo Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 30 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: I can only assume that Rudkin believes because we are such a superior club that is was Martin who got them promoted against the odds. They still believe we are a Premier League club who have been treated badly by the Premier League. It’s just shows the sheer arrogance that when something is toxic, they turn it up a notch. What do they hope all the anti fans don’t come again and they can replace with more happy clappers who love a bit of centre back passing?! I genuinely don’t think Rudkin is making the decision, particularly if it ends up being RM. I think he was credited with Cooper appointment and it was Top I believe, pressed the ejector button in favour of RVN based simply on the Man Utd results. I don’t the club has had a footballing strategy since Puel left.
DezFox Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 2 hours ago, K789 said: I.agree think he'll do well You seem to be very up for this, a lot of your posts a pro Martin. Personally I think it will be a disaster but I would be more than happy for you to be right.
Spudulike Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 The only justification for appointing Martin is in the highly unlikely scenario that all other targets are either not available, require compensation or simply don't want the job. It's possible the list has been exhausted so the only choice left is Martin or stick with RvN.
DezFox Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 4 minutes ago, Spudulike said: The only justification for appointing Martin is in the highly unlikely scenario that all other targets are either not available, require compensation or simply don't want the job. It's possible the list has been exhausted so the only choice left is Martin or stick with RvN. There are only around 120 managers that would not take this job. There are 11k professional ( employed) managers currently. Russel Martin is not and will never should be the last option . 1
K789 Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 16 minutes ago, DezFox said: You seem to be very up for this, a lot of your posts a pro Martin. Personally I think it will be a disaster but I would be more than happy for you to be right. I'm his mum. In all seriousness everything I've watched saints it's been shocking finishing on their part thsts stopped them beating teams. Think he's a good manager and by far the bedt we can get in our situation 2
VLC86 Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 Just now, K789 said: I'm his mum. In all seriousness everything I've watched saints it's been shocking finishing on their part thsts stopped them beating teams. Think he's a good manager and by far the bedt we can get in our situation They also conceded a lot of stupid goals by passing out from the back at all costs.
Foxin_Mad Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 13 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: When will Lord Rudkin announce it, last week of July. He’s gotta pop off on his jollies to bangkok 1
Yes N'Didi Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 (edited) What frustrates me most is that the club are clearly aware of the anti-Rudkin movement (him not coming down on the pitch at the Ipswich game), but Top's refusing to either back or sack. You either back your man in the face of fan critism and say he's the man for the job lets move on, or you sack him and bring in a replacement. The refusal to do either leaves the club, players and now manager signing in limbo. If we had sacked him and brought someone in a month or two ago, we would have someone competent making the next major decision which will define the next 5-10 years of this football club at a pivotal moment. Instead we have the same clown in charge. What next if this doesn't work out, sack the manager and Rudkin and then have hamstrung ourselves into another financial and logistical mess? Edited 27 May 2025 by Yes N'Didi 4
Trav Le Bleu Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 It seems to me that there's lots of people who want it to be RM just so they can hate the club more. Almost no evidence it's going to happen, yet resigned to the fact, because it will further vindicate their opinion.
Foxin_Mad Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 8 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: It seems to me that there's lots of people who want it to be RM just so they can hate the club more. Almost no evidence it's going to happen, yet resigned to the fact, because it will further vindicate their opinion. Well there’s also no evidence it’s not going to happen either. If the club had some semblance of competence or open professional communication channels they wouldn’t have this going on. All they have done for the past 4/5 years is double down on any mistakes they have made to the point the can’t even say they were relegated. They are delusional. I don’t really see how anyone can back it support what’s going on at the club. I actually think it don’t be quick, they will probably tart around until June 30th ‘due to PSR’ already damaging the chances of any new man because they are that inept. 1
winteriscoming Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 Ole Werner. Just been sacked by Werder Bremen. Finished top 10 in bundesliga last 3 seasons.
kingkisnorbo Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 Will need to galvanise and ingratiate with the core match going support from the get go. Think it’ll help him massively if it’s rocky on the pitch. Constantly left astounded by manager after manager neglecting this side of things. Enzo got it, for all his flaws. 1
Spudulike Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 59 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said: Will need to galvanise and ingratiate with the core match going support from the get go. Think it’ll help him massively if it’s rocky on the pitch. Constantly left astounded by manager after manager neglecting this side of things. Enzo got it, for all his flaws. Cooper tried his best but carried too much baggage and was never going to be accepted unless we got off to a flyer.
Guest Bilo Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 3 minutes ago, Spudulike said: Cooper tried his best but carried too much baggage and was never going to be accepted unless we got off to a flyer. I don't agree. Very, very few criticisms were levelled at him because he was ex-Forest. If his time at Forest was brought up at all, it's because of how rancid the football they played under him was. If we bagged Nuno now in some bizarre alternate universe, I promise you that nobody would care that he was just at Forest.
Leicesterpool Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 Cooper was let down by the board, who once again listened to the players and what happened they sacked Cooper when we were 16th and scored every league game under him and replaced him RVN and we finished 18th come may.
LestaLad Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 Still nothing by a reliable source.. it’s not Martin is it..
MGLCFC Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: Cooper was let down by the board, who once again listened to the players and what happened they sacked Cooper when we were 16th and scored every league game under him and replaced him RVN and we finished 18th come may. Apart from a 3 - 0 defeat at Old Trafford. Cooper for me had no system and the points we picked up were more by luck, than deserved Spurs 1 -1 (h) - should have been out of sight before we scored Crystal Palace (a) 2 - 2 - Probably our best performance under Cooper and could have won. Everton (h) 1 -1 - a somewhat fortunate draw - could have gone either way Bournemouth (h) 1 - 0 - How we managed to win with one shot on target and Bournemouth totally outplaying us, is a mystery Southampton (a) 2 - 3 - Only started playing after Fatawu introduced and them down to 10 men Ipswich (a) 1 -1 Last minute goal after Ipswich were down to 10 men for a lengthy time All the defeats in between and afterwards were appalling. I can't think of many games where we were half decent. I'm not suggesting things got better with RVN, but I still think the outcome would have been the same had we retained Cooper. I do blame the board, not for sacking Cooper, but for appointing him in the first place. Edited 27 May 2025 by MGLCFC
Leicesterpool Posted 27 May 2025 Posted 27 May 2025 Just now, MGLCFC said: Apart from a 3 - 0 defeat at Old Trafford. Cooper for me had no system and the points we picked up were more by luck, than deserved Spurs 1 -1 (h) - should have been out of sight before we scored Crystal Palace (a) 2 - 2 - Probably our best performance under Cooper and could have won. Everton (h) 1 -1 - a somewhat fortunate daw - could have gone either way Bournemouth (h) 1 - 0 - How we managed win with one shot on target and Bournemouth totally outplaying is a mystery Southampton (a) 2 - 3 - Only started playing after Fatawu introduced and them down to 10 men Ipswich (a) 1 -1 Last minute goal after Ipswich were down to 10 men for a lengthy time All the defeats in between and afterwards were appalling. I can't think of many games where we were half decent. I'm not suggesting things got better with RVN, but I still think the outcome would have been the same had we retained Cooper. I do blame the board, not for sacking Cooper, but for appointing him in the first place. I'm not saying Cooper was the best man either but soon as you think they were going to correct any problems they appointed an even worser manager. Question is would the board have sacked Cooper even if the players hadn't have complained.
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