Untenable

[gazzaa2]

13 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

He’s getting away with it because the absolute ****tards at the top spent money we don’t have on ****ing Eduoard who isn’t even in the bench, now we can’t afford to sack him due to psr. That alone is enough for Rudkin to go. 

You don't have to pay him off though. Just sack him and continuing paying his salary. Throw someone else in as caretaker till the end of the season. We're down anyway.

[Chrysalis]

4 hours ago, iancognito said:

Moyes was never coming to a basket case like us  for any money

In which case we should have held fire on Cooper, if you not sure what you getting is a clear upgrade and the guy you got is so far keeping to his remit, you hold station.
We apparently didnt even ask him though so will never know if would have got him.

Edited 3 April by Chrysalis

[RoboFox]

15 hours ago, Skidmark said:

Could have been so different if we'd thrown the wages we've thrown at Ruud at Moyes. 

 

Isn't it understood that the club approached Moyes and Potter in both the summer and after Cooper was sacked? Judging by something Shearer said to Moyes on TRIF podcast, this almost certainly is the case. 

 

Moyes and Potter live and breathe football. They're surrounded by football people. Of course they're going to turn us down regardless because everyone within football is in the know about what a state this club is and where its headed. 

 

Both Cooper and RvN were third choice at least. We've ended up with a completely untested duffer who was desperate for a chance (although has a great aura), because that's all we could attract.

KPFC is a poisoned chalice. Anyone with a reputation to uphold won't come near us. 

 

Edited 3 April by RoboFox

[ozvaldo]

It literally feels like the club think everything is going to plan and they’re happy with how we’re performing. 
 

The lack of leadership is staggering. 

[Edingleyfox]

4 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

Bomb squaded Winksy last night. I get that like the rest of the midfield he has had a poor season but Ruud’s incapability to get him to play after Soumare and Ndidi continue to fail is another reason why his position is untenable. Say what you like about Winks but he has more quality than Skipp, more application than Soumare.

Although Winks has had a tough season he does have quality on the ball and agree it is the fee Leicester paid for Skipp that is the biggest issue he is not a bad player. Soumare is too inconsistent and watching the highlights was jogging back for the first goal and not getting the challenges in which has been a problem before. I accept he has had a few decent games earlier in the season. I'd really like a major overhaul in midfield next week as only Bilal seems to be creating anything and that is very limited. Leicester need to look at the whole squad with a view to the Championship and fringe players need a run out. I'm not saying the squad has been good enough all season but it has underperformed due to increasingly negative tactics which have had no impact on goals conceded whilst draining confidence going forward

Edited 3 April by Edingleyfox

[Dan]

6 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

& Cooper. 

 

I never thought I'd prefer that tw*t but he knocks spots off of RVFN - as a manager is literally has absolutely nothing about him 

Cooper was rubbish but he was comfortably better than this. He's the only one, bizarrely, who has come out of this looking quite good.

[Dan]

I do wonder if it will come out in future that the club was being sabotaged on purpose. Can't explain why they would do it, but I don't really know how you can serve up this level of incompetence otherwise.

[Dan]

5 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

My point is less tangible, but I think we are worse than the stats suggest..

 

We don't attack, at all..the opponent doesn't have to try, at all. Without exaggeration, the opponent only need turn up. 

 

We go into every game knowing we will lose. I've never had that. Sports fans are by nature optimistic. That today will be the day, the fluke, the one-in-a-hundred. But not with the Dutchman. It is certain defeat..

 

And to rub salt in the wounds, we are nowhere near as bad as the results suggest. The Dutchman appears, and I hesitate and check myself, to be deliberately setting us up for defeat. 

 

Coady and Thomas and Ward weren't good enough for the Championship. In fact Thomas and Ward unable to make the 25 man squad..Vardy wasn't good enough to be a regular championship starter and prior to that, wasn't good enough to start for a relegated PL team..

 

We have competent pros sat sidelined, unused. Okoli has shown enough promise that Italy - renowned defensive beasts - selected him for an international call up. Buonanotte was undoubtedly our best player prior to the Dutchman's arrival. Mavididi and Winks and now Ricardo were our trusted players for a successful promotion. Skipp, for all the unwarranted stick he gets over his fee, knows the PL. Fit decent if unspectacular lad. He doesn't deserve to be permanently sidelined by an,, at best, woefully inconsistent Soumare..

 

Since day 1, the Dutchman has set up very basic rudimentary systems, both of which leave the midfield (whoever occupies the two available positions) open to slaughter. But he won't even attempt to address it. 

 

Some answers are there. Pack midfield, narrow down the back four. Put pace up top. Play our two most creative players together. All of which probably lead to relegation. But not necessarily humiliation, as we have to suffer under this quite dreadful man. 

 

There's worse to come. The players confidence has been shredded beyond normal parameters. We will continue to lose every game, continue to be unable to attack (let alone score) and,.I think, the ingredients are there for a couple of real hidings ... seriously we might well be looking at a defeat of 10,11,12 or more. A team only need put in more than the 50% most opponents are currently giving and we'll be bummed alive 

Think this is what is letting us off the hook - teams knowing they can take a breather. Brentford for example we benefitted from them having a midweek game afterwards so they conserved energy and only won 0-4 when they could quite easily have racked up 7/8. Last night another - bit of a piss take from Man City really, but again you assume they are just conserving energy for a derby at the weekend.

 

Forest will have no mercy against us. They've shown they've got it in their locker. I'd be quietly relieved if that one was 2/3-0.

 

Bournemouth have fallen apart lately but they also have shown they have it in them. Get things back together somewhat and they could stick 5 on us without really breaking sweat. Possibly 7/8.

[Paninistickers]

5 minutes ago, Dan said:

Think this is what is letting us off the hook - teams knowing they can take a breather. Brentford for example we benefitted from them having a midweek game afterwards so they conserved energy and only won 0-4 when they could quite easily have racked up 7/8. Last night another - bit of a piss take from Man City really, but again you assume they are just conserving energy for a derby at the weekend.

 

Forest will have no mercy against us. They've shown they've got it in their locker. I'd be quietly relieved if that one was 2/3-0.

 

Bournemouth have fallen apart lately but they also have shown they have it in them. Get things back together somewhat and they could stick 5 on us without really breaking sweat. Possibly 7/8.

The forest game is a nightmare at the best of times ....but their physical,. lightning quick style of play against the Dutchman's ultra feeble formation and even weaker running stats he demands of our players is ominous. 

 

Add to that a baying crowd on cloud 9 who will plead they won't let up..

 

This could easily be double figures..and potentially into the teens. All watched by an obese, clapper happy away end of the lowest possible DNA quality imaginable..

[CrazyKopCorner]

31 minutes ago, Dan said:

Cooper was rubbish but he was comfortably better than this. He's the only one, bizarrely, who has come out of this looking quite good.

I'd say Cooper was the catalyst for a total terrible season. 

 

The terrible pre season, the terrible tactics, the terrible team selections, the terrible signings etc etc 

 

I'd not want him running a junior football team. 

 

RVFN's on another level granted 

Edited 3 April by CrazyKopCorner

[Winstonthedog]

16 hours ago, Pita said:

If Ruud had anything about him he would walk tonight useless manager. 

If he had any professional pride in himself he certainly would 

[cruzFOX]

I don’t know what the point of our existence is in this league now. We are just a bunch of dummies for the opposition to train against. Why are fans still turning up to watch this farce? They are doing self harm!

the season needs to end now. The manager wants it to end. The players look defeated.  What are we doing here?

[Trav Le Bleu]

I'm going to say it...

 

If Cooper were still in charge we might still be in with a shout of avoiding relegation.

 

There. I'm not proud of it, but I feel it's true.

[TheGoldenGod]

5 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I'm going to say it...

 

If Cooper were still in charge we might still be in with a shout of avoiding relegation.

 

There. I'm not proud of it, but I feel it's true.

The word "still" here is confusing me. Surely you don't mean in the current situation...12 points from Wolves, 13 points from safety? The messiah himself wouldn't be saving us from that.

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Dan said:

Cooper was rubbish but he was comfortably better than this. He's the only one, bizarrely, who has come out of this looking quite good.

Can never agree with that when we remember that the guy that wanted to play defensive counter attacking football, bolstered his front line with Jordan Ayew, BDCR and Eduoard

[Filbert Fireworks]

33 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I'm going to say it...

 

If Cooper were still in charge we might still be in with a shout of avoiding relegation.

 

There. I'm not proud of it, but I feel it's true.

It is true 100%. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

31 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

The word "still" here is confusing me. Surely you don't mean in the current situation...12 points from Wolves, 13 points from safety? The messiah himself wouldn't be saving us from that.

I mean the gap wouldn't be 12 pts

[DJ Barry Hammond]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I'm going to say it...

 

If Cooper were still in charge we might still be in with a shout of avoiding relegation.

 

There. I'm not proud of it, but I feel it's true.

If Cooper wasn’t sacked when he was, he’d have been sacked a week later.

 

If not a week later, two.

 

Don’t kid yourself that he was in any way getting a different tune out of the squad… given Ruud basically copied his tactics for his first 10 or so games.

[gazzaa2]

19 hours ago, Skidmark said:

Could have been so different if we'd thrown the wages we've thrown at Ruud at Moyes. 

Same two years ago if we got Dyche before Everton.

 

Dean Smith and Van Nistelrooy were the best we could do.

[Bourbon Fox]

20 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

That alone is enough for Rudkin to go. 

This season should be the end of him, no question. A complete **** up in all areas. The worst **** up in the history of the club. He's the director of football for God's sake.

[gazzaa2]

2 hours ago, TheGoldenGod said:

The word "still" here is confusing me. Surely you don't mean in the current situation...12 points from Wolves, 13 points from safety? The messiah himself wouldn't be saving us from that.

We'd have gone down but may have scraped 30 points or close. We weren't adrift when he went.

[Dan]

4 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I'd say Cooper was the catalyst for a total terrible season. 

 

The terrible pre season, the terrible tactics, the terrible team selections, the terrible signings etc etc 

 

I'd not want him running a junior football team. 

 

RVFN's on another level granted 

 

3 hours ago, filbertway said:

Can never agree with that when we remember that the guy that wanted to play defensive counter attacking football, bolstered his front line with Jordan Ayew, BDCR and Eduoard

For what it's worth I'm not one bit fooled. He carries a lot of the can for his utterly dreadful recruitment which achieved absolutely nothing. Good money wasted on players with no resale value and players who haven't delivered anything in the short term either.

 

But if you're him I think you're having a bit of a laugh to yourself right now. He got 59% of our points in 40% of our games. This is how I'd be spinning it if I was him. I've never really known a managers stock potentially rise in a season where he was so poor himself.

[Dan]

At Cooper's PPG we'd be on 25 points - that is about where I think it would be. Still in the race but will ultimately be relegated.

[splinterdream]

12 minutes ago, Dan said:

At Cooper's PPG we'd be on 25 points - that is about where I think it would be. Still in the race but will ultimately be relegated.

it wouldn't have gone that way, players weren't on board with him, it was inevitable that it was going to fall apart, the squad with some exeptions is toxic with many nowhere near good enough, this was always going to happen imo

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Dan said:

 

For what it's worth I'm not one bit fooled. He carries a lot of the can for his utterly dreadful recruitment which achieved absolutely nothing. Good money wasted on players with no resale value and players who haven't delivered anything in the short term either.

 

But if you're him I think you're having a bit of a laugh to yourself right now. He got 59% of our points in 40% of our games. This is how I'd be spinning it if I was him. I've never really known a managers stock potentially rise in a season where he was so poor himself.

Yeah i get what you mean mate.

 

He was awful, but RVN is redefining the meaning of the word