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32 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Isn't his budget there about £1.73, though? Plus the fact that our academy and facilities are light years ahead of theirs.

Which should see younger players signed on loan or picked up from bigger clubs on frees. It's a concerning pattern.

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2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Which should see younger players signed on loan or picked up from bigger clubs on frees. It's a concerning pattern.

He starts a 19 year old in goal, signed probably their best talent in Gassama for £1m from PSG. Loaned Shea Charles in from Southampton.

 

I agree he doesn't have a massive track record in it, but there's enough in there for me to think he isn't "anti-youngster"

 

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4 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

why does everyone think hes defo coming here, Rangers are meant to be looking at him too, and they are in a far better state than us and career wise for Martin that would be a good one, potential trophies and european football as well

even Id go there over us atm

certainly wouldnt shock me at all this

Imagine the old firm smarmfest.  Rodgers V Martin.  The snake oil derby. 

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It would be a interesting move for sure but I honestly have a gut feeling we will be stuck with ruud for the start of the season.

How much would it cost to sack him 🤔 and why not? there's no point In him still being here imo that's why I think they can't afford to sack him or he's staying for next season 

Posted
1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

Strange comment. He's young and done a very good job working under a terrible owner, which is exactly the kind of person we need. 

 

Out of interest, who realistically would you want? Other names that have been mentioned like Dyche, Martin, Carsley etc are no more exciting than Rohl. 

I can’t disagree with you and I hope I will be wrong. Not being negative and I know it sounds like it but want what is best for our club. Not sure he will be 

Posted
41 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Which should see younger players signed on loan or picked up from bigger clubs on frees. It's a concerning pattern.

 

37 minutes ago, LVFox said:

He starts a 19 year old in goal, signed probably their best talent in Gassama for £1m from PSG. Loaned Shea Charles in from Southampton.

 

I agree he doesn't have a massive track record in it, but there's enough in there for me to think he isn't "anti-youngster"

 

I'm leaning towards 'question to be asked at interview' rather than a flat no right now.

 

It's a concern, certainly. But I think even our scouting will be better than theirs.

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4 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

Rangers are meant to be looking at him too, and they are in a far better state than us

In what world is this true? They had a pretty good Europa run but apart from that... this is the worst top flight Rangers squads in my lifetime. They are so so poor. Even in the Championship, I'm not sure there are more than one or two players I would take from them. 

 

Even with the takeover in the near future, we've seen that be a disaster before at Rangers. And the place is absolutely teaming with John Rudkin-esq incompetence. 

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Just now, Scotch said:

In what world is this true? They had a pretty good Europa run but apart from that... this is the worst top flight Rangers squads in my lifetime. They are so so poor. Even in the Championship, I'm not sure there are more than one or two players I would take from them. 

 

Even with the takeover in the near future, we've seen that be a disaster before at Rangers. And the place is absolutely teaming with John Rudkin-esq incompetence. 

They only need to be better than nine of the twelve SPFL clubs to guarantee some form of European football every single year, and they got to the quarters of the UEL this season. 

 

Celtic are midtable to lower end Prem quality, Rangers are upper mid Championship quality and the rest isn't even that. It wouldn't take much for Rangers to look vaguely decent in that division. It's atrocious. 

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41 minutes ago, Scotch said:

In what world is this true? They had a pretty good Europa run but apart from that... this is the worst top flight Rangers squads in my lifetime. They are so so poor. Even in the Championship, I'm not sure there are more than one or two players I would take from them. 

 

Even with the takeover in the near future, we've seen that be a disaster before at Rangers. And the place is absolutely teaming with John Rudkin-esq incompetence. 

its pretty clear if you actually look at the whole picture of Rangers, SPFL and the fact they have more chance to win stuff than us, doing stuff at Rangers, winning things, even if it is Scotland will look better alright on the CV, like at big Ange, no one heard of him before Celtic, 

the world where Gerrard got Rangers winning the league then got the Villa job from it; 

38 minutes ago, Bilo said:

They only need to be better than nine of the twelve SPFL clubs to guarantee some form of European football every single year, and they got to the quarters of the UEL this season. 

 

Celtic are midtable to lower end Prem quality, Rangers are upper mid Championship quality and the rest isn't even that. It wouldn't take much for Rangers to look vaguely decent in that division. It's atrocious. 

pretty spot on for me, a good few years at either Celtic or Rangers and clubs in england come sniffing, like we did for Rodgers, villa did for Gerrard

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Lesterlad said:

I can’t disagree with you and I hope I will be wrong. Not being negative and I know it sounds like it but want what is best for our club. Not sure he will be 

We haven't and won't get what is best for our club, whilst this board are in place. I have zero faith that our board will all of a sudden start making the right decisions and that includes our next manager. I actually don't think we will get Rohl to be fair. 

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Just now, FrankieADZ said:

its pretty clear if you actually look at the whole picture of Rangers, SPFL and the fact they have more chance to win stuff than us, doing stuff at Rangers, winning things, even if it is Scotland will look better alright on the CV, like at big Ange, no one heard of him before Celtic, 

the world where Gerrard got Rangers winning the league then got the Villa job from it; 

pretty spot on for me, a good few years at either Celtic or Rangers and clubs in england come sniffing, like we did for Rodgers, villa did for Gerrard

 

 

Exactly that. Those two clubs are absolutely huge in a way that means that any form of success attracts adulation from the fans and attention from the media that masks the lack of quality on the pitch that achieved it. 

 

The Austrian Bundesliga is actually above the SPFL in the coefficient rankings, but the reality is that the Sturm Graz or Red Bull Salzburg manager would never get the same amount of attention for winning their league as the manager of Rangers or Celtic would. 

Posted
24 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Get a decent DOF in and you don't need the manager to be a transfer genius.

You need them to be aligned though and follow the mandate. You also need them to have the bra ery to develop young players.

Posted
2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

If so, even more of a red flag on the signings made which are the majority older experienced players. I'd want him to explain why he's done what he's done.

They had **** all money to spend bar Ugbo who’d been on loan there. If he’s overstretched it makes sense to take fewer risks and go for players he knows - mostly in Germany or England. 
 

Also Wednesday are just so shoddy that, quite sensibly, he’d have an eye on departing so picking up players pre-peak who’ll mature later on at the cost of not being ready now wouldn’t be sensible.

 

It’d concern me if he wanted to do the same here but there are mitigating circumstances at Wednesday, it’s defensible unlike Ruud’s aversion to youth.

Posted
29 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

We haven't and won't get what is best for our club, whilst this board are in place. I have zero faith that our board will all of a sudden start making the right decisions and that includes our next manager. I actually don't think we will get Rohl to be fair. 

Spot On..

 

The sad thing is, I think deep down we as supporters know that The Nepo Baby Top won't do the right thing, and that Teflon Jon and Clueless Sue will be still around leading the board in 'Fuching' Up the footballing operations come the start of the next season.

 

  Through continued incompetence they will take the easy, un-imaginative option of appointing either a name like Gerrard  (who IMO is crap and out of his depth as a manager as RvN ) or a Dyche, Martin, Mowbray esq. appointment. and than try to butter up the situation by saying we need some stability and a "Safe and Experienced" pair of hands to navigate our way back to the Premiership.

 

They're only acting within the limitations of their substandard talents as a board, and casting the net further out, doing a bit of homework and actually some due diligence for a change is beyond them.

 

I fear we are in for yet more pain and disappointment next season boy and girls.

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19 minutes ago, Stadt said:

They had **** all money to spend bar Ugbo who’d been on loan there. If he’s overstretched it makes sense to take fewer risks and go for players he knows - mostly in Germany or England. 
 

Also Wednesday are just so shoddy that, quite sensibly, he’d have an eye on departing so picking up players pre-peak who’ll mature later on at the cost of not being ready now wouldn’t be sensible.

 

It’d concern me if he wanted to do the same here but there are mitigating circumstances at Wednesday, it’s defensible unlike Ruud’s aversion to youth.

But they already had an ageing and experienced squad and he has opted to add more. Like we did and Cooper added to it. 

 

Saying Rohl has signed a few young players as well is the same as saying Cooper did, but was a coward when it came to playing them.

 

Them having minimal money doesn't mean signing experience was the only option, I'd argue the opposite.

 

Rohl would need a very good explanation as to why he'd be suited to a rebuild here where we need to bring through half a dozen academy players and other young players. He's not an obvious fit.

 

 

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Just now, Ric Flair said:

But they already have an ageing and experienced squad and he has opted to add more. Like we did and Cooper added to it. 

 

Saying Rohl has signed a few young players as well is the same as saying Cooper did, but was a coward when it came to playing them.

 

Rohl would need a very good explanation as to why he'd be suited to a rebuild here where we need to bring through half a dozen academy players and other young players. He's not an obvious fit.

 

 

More of a reason for me to go for Muslić I feel he is the diamond in the rough for us, I think he would be a great fit for us as a club. 

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2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

But they already had an ageing and experienced squad and he has opted to add more. Like we did and Cooper added to it. 

 

Saying Rohl has signed a few young players as well is the same as saying Cooper did, but was a coward when it came to playing them.

 

Them having minimal money doesn't mean signing experience was the only option, I'd argue the opposite.

 

Rohl would need a very good explanation as to why he'd be suited to a rebuild here where we need to bring through half a dozen academy players and other young players. He's not an obvious fit.

 

 

Interested to know who you want us to get next season. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

But they already had an ageing and experienced squad and he has opted to add more. Like we did and Cooper added to it. 

 

Saying Rohl has signed a few young players as well is the same as saying Cooper did, but was a coward when it came to playing them.

 

Them having minimal money doesn't mean signing experience was the only option, I'd argue the opposite.

 

Rohl would need a very good explanation as to why he'd be suited to a rebuild here where we need to bring through half a dozen academy players and other young players. He's not an obvious fit.

 

 

They stayed up by the skin of their teeth, he knew he wasn’t going to be there for years, he had far too much to do as the manager.

 

I don’t think you can blame him for that particularly. This probably isn’t that accurate as it’s via AI but the age of his signings 

- Ben Hamer: 36
- Max Lowe: 27
- Yan Valery: 25
- Svante Ingelsson: 26
- Olaf Kobacki: 22
- Jamal Lowe: 30
- Ike Ugbo: 25
- Charlie McNeill: 20
- James Beadle: 20
- Shea Charles: 20
- Ibrahim Cissoko: 21
- Ryo Hatsuse: 27

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