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Premier League has charged LCFC with an alleged breach of PSR

By moore_94, in Leicester City Forum

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Vestan Pance

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2 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Wish we'd just cheated and sold the women's team, the ground, seagrave to ourselves 

This lot are so incompetent, they'd think they could do that every season.

HankMarvin

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1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

Weren’t Man City charged with not publishing their accounts and they got into massive trouble……..oh wait

no it doesn’t apply to them or Chelsea. 

Yet

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The worst thing about the whole thing for me is that we appear to operate carefully at all the wrong times. 

 

We've consistently breached PSR anyway, so why were we so bothered about spending literally nothing in the first relegation season? You'd understand more if we'd been consistently careful to stay within the rules since.

 

Would have been so easy to stay up that year re-investing a little more of the Schmeichel salary savings and Fofana money. 

 

Then the following summer we spunked silly money on Winks, Coady, Fatawu (who tbf was a good signing), etc. Then after spending inflated sums on these players wouldn't give Enzo a penny in January, which very nearly cost us promotion as we ended the window weaker than we started it with Casadei going back. Not to mention the contracts we handed out to the likes of Vestergaard on promotion back to the PL. 

 

The way we're operating achieves the worst of both worlds. We're limiting ourselves in the transfer market but also breaching PSR (causing issues with recruitment of managers and players last summer and likely this). 

 

Either run a tight ship and stick within the rules, avoiding controversy and deductions. Or 'do a Forest', take the points hit on the chin and build a competitive squad. 

 

I'm consistently baffled in life by how thick so many people are. These are senior board members we're talking about. Why can I, a relatively casual fan with zero experience in football see this, and they can't? 

 

I'm sure there's more that goes into these decisions than I'm making out, but we seem to be the only club managing to strike quite such an awful balance season on season. 

 

It's genuinely at the point that if the objective was to run the club as poorly as possible, I'm struggling to understand what they'd be able to do differently to make it any worse than it already is.

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Detroit Blues

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Please educate me. How is this different than the last time the Premier League tried to punish us? My layman's understanding of the ruling is that since we were in the Championship when the punishment was handed down, we weren't a Premier League club and thus were not in the jurisdiction of the Premier League's rulings. 

 

It seems like the same issue?

UniFox21

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This article arguably makes it even more confusing. From what I can make out, a tribunal has determined the independent appeals board were wrong? 

 

The charge for not promptly cooperating is also hilarious

Ricey

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50 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

I’m surprised at how many people seem to be more against the club than they do the authorities, in this situation. 
 

They’ve ripped up their own rule book to come back for more after losing a case. They’re acting on spite. 
 

All whilst failing to deliver the final verdict on Man City - because going against a state will inevitably unearth all the corruption beneath the surface. 

Simply not true.

 

They lost one case (even though the panel actually agreed it was the wrong decision) and won the other. Both cases were ultimately due to the club arguing that the PL didn’t have jurisdiction for either years.
 

They haven’t ripped up their own rule book. Yes, there was a loophole due to bad wording, which we exploited for the 22/23 charge and has now been closed, but the fact is we breached for both seasons…of course they are going to go after us!

 

The Man City case is a whole other ball game and all the delaying tactics have been on City’s side.

 

The stuff around Chelsea and selling assets to themselves is infuriating, but those rules were voted through by the PL clubs. They had a chance to close that loophole recently via a vote and the PL clubs voted against it!

 

The PL and EFL have proven that they are shoddy with the details, but when a club breaches, they are going to charge them. That’s the rules and the club is fully aware of them.

Iwebema

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1 minute ago, Detroit Blues said:

Please educate me. How is this different than the last time the Premier League tried to punish us? My layman's understanding of the ruling is that since we were in the Championship when the punishment was handed down, we weren't a Premier League club and thus were not in the jurisdiction of the Premier League's rulings. 

 

It seems like the same issue?

On the financial issue it is the same thing, the tribunal has just given the PL the green light on jurisdiction to do something about it as the PL were not sure on their own rules.

 

But there are 2 more charges now being levied, we didn't submit our accounts on time (31st December 2024) and we have been obstructive.

 

I find it hard to find a way around the first two, the last one is more subjective, will depend on evidence.

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Ricey

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3 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

 

 

This article arguably makes it even more confusing. From what I can make out, a tribunal has determined the independent appeals board were wrong? 

 

The charge for not promptly cooperating is also hilarious

Yes, the tribunal actually sided with the PL and agreed that they should have been able to charge us with 22/23, but it didn’t reach the requisite high threshold to overturn.

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HankMarvin

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Just now, Iwebema said:

On the financial issue it is the same thing, the tribunal has just given the PL the green light on jurisdiction to do something about it as the PL were not sure on their own rules.

 

But there are 2 more charges now being levied, we didn't submit our accounts on time (31st December 2024) and we have been obstructive.

 

I find it hard to find a way around the first two, the last one is more subjective, will depend on evidence.

And the reason for delaying the forecast?

so we could shithouse our way out of the championship by spending 

if £201m is the correct amount they might as well have kept KDH.

If also means we will probably breach this season after spending £80m with such a high 3 year average 

ClaphamFox

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6 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

On the financial issue it is the same thing, the tribunal has just given the PL the green light on jurisdiction to do something about it as the PL were not sure on their own rules.

 

But there are 2 more charges now being levied, we didn't submit our accounts on time (31st December 2024) and we have been obstructive.

 

I find it hard to find a way around the first two, the last one is more subjective, will depend on evidence.

If accounts aren’t submitted before 31 December, sanctions can’t be levied in the same season. So presumably we deliberately delayed submitting our accounts for FY24 in the hope that we’d survive this season, strengthen in the summer and deal with any points deduction next season when the squad is in better shape. Unfortunately our relegation this season means that little ruse has backfired spectacularly.

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Nolucklcfc

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21 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Imagine the ill placed smugness when we get promoted anyway. lol

We’ve got no chance of getting promoted next season with the players we have to sell and -12 being the minimum 

Ricey

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26 minutes ago, steamedhamms said:

I totally understand why not submitting accounts is punished as non-cooperation (seems utterly stupid that we didn’t) but if you challenge something, win and then win the appeal I cannot see how that is the club in the wrong personally so I’m not sure why that is deemed relevant to this idea of an aggravated breach. Seems absurd!

 

It seems like we should get punished, and the club deserves it to a large extent but 12+ points seems to me a pretty clear indication that the rules are no longer about the sustainability of clubs at all.

 

The challenge we made and appeal we won was for a different season to the season we failed to submit our accounts I believe. I think the three charges are all for 23/24, so the ‘win’ we had over the PL doesn’t come into it.

jonthefox

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8 minutes ago, Torten said:

We’re not getting deducted 12 point, it will be a maximum of 8 swear on my nan’s life

I bet your nan will be shitting herself until the verdict is announced then. Have you seen what you’ve done to this poor woman Rudkin 

HankMarvin

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2 minutes ago, jonthefox said:

I bet your nan will be shitting herself until the verdict is announced then. Have you seen what you’ve done to this poor woman Rudkin 

Plot twist it is the nan, she killed her grandson and is covering her tracks by posted as him 

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fox_favourite

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Incompetence breeds incompetent results. 

 

This is on the board, on Top for not sorting it out when we were relegated, the short sightedness of how to run things, employing the wrong people, not changing things to make the club sustainable. 

 

It's an awful show of stupidity all round. Wrexham are ran better than us, and they have American actors who never understood football, yet they are creating success. We have sacks of mouldy potatoes

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