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Posted
26 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

U21s having their best season in several years, despite a clutch of the U16 winning side almost completely bypassing the U21s in Page, Monga and Evans. 

Seems to me we are very good at spotting telent at a young age and have the facilities and know how to bring it through.

 

We're great at nurturing that physical talent.... but there's something massively lacking with the mental/personality side in my opinion. 

 

Can't remember the last big resilient character who's been a leader that has come through?

 

Monga and Evans seem very quiet and reserved - I'd love to see some personally and confidence coming through. 

 

I wonder if this is to do with a lack of role models bringing them through and letting them express themselves maybe? 

 

Seems to be a theme with alot of our youth really...

 

Heskey - possibly one of the most shy youngsters ever. 

 

Monga - seemed to express himself with his ability but now that's been coached out of him there's not much to connect with. 

 

Evans - didn't seem to grab his chance at the start of the season seemed to let things wash over him. 

 

Barnes - Rodgers called him out for being a bit mentally weak. 

 

Chilwell - Wouldn't take a throw in at Millwall! 

 

Nelson - Hope he can be potential leader in the future but seems very quiet and introverted at the moment. 

 

Thomas - No comment. 

 

Think we need some work on the mental side. Top clubs have world-class players that probably understand this automatically but with our cretins promoting youth must be a nightmare in that toxic climate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Seems to me we are very good at spotting telent at a young age and have the facilities and know how to bring it through.

 

We're great at nurturing that physical talent.... but there's something massively lacking with the mental/personality side in my opinion. 

 

Can't remember the last big resilient character who's been a leader that has come through?

 

Monga and Evans seem very quiet and reserved - I'd love to see some personally and confidence coming through. 

 

I wonder if this is to do with a lack of role models bringing them through and letting them express themselves maybe? 

 

Seems to be a theme with alot of our youth really...

 

Heskey - possibly one of the most shy youngsters ever. 

 

Monga - seemed to express himself with his ability but now that's been coached out of him there's not much to connect with. 

 

Evans - didn't seem to grab his chance at the start of the season seemed to let things wash over him. 

 

Barnes - Rodgers called him out for being a bit mentally weak. 

 

Chilwell - Wouldn't take a throw in at Millwall! 

 

Nelson - Hope he can be potential leader in the future but seems very quiet and introverted at the moment. 

 

Thomas - No comment. 

 

Think we need some work on the mental side. Top clubs have world-class players that probably understand this automatically but with our cretins promoting youth must be a nightmare in that toxic climate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To counter this, KDH definitely bucks the trend but maybe sending the poor lad to Luton and Blackpool toughened him up

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Seems to me we are very good at spotting telent at a young age and have the facilities and know how to bring it through.

 

We're great at nurturing that physical talent.... but there's something massively lacking with the mental/personality side in my opinion. 

 

Can't remember the last big resilient character who's been a leader that has come through?

 

Monga and Evans seem very quiet and reserved - I'd love to see some personally and confidence coming through. 

 

I wonder if this is to do with a lack of role models bringing them through and letting them express themselves maybe? 

 

Seems to be a theme with alot of our youth really...

 

Heskey - possibly one of the most shy youngsters ever. 

 

Monga - seemed to express himself with his ability but now that's been coached out of him there's not much to connect with. 

 

Evans - didn't seem to grab his chance at the start of the season seemed to let things wash over him. 

 

Barnes - Rodgers called him out for being a bit mentally weak. 

 

Chilwell - Wouldn't take a throw in at Millwall! 

 

Nelson - Hope he can be potential leader in the future but seems very quiet and introverted at the moment. 

 

Thomas - No comment. 

 

Think we need some work on the mental side. Top clubs have world-class players that probably understand this automatically but with our cretins promoting youth must be a nightmare in that toxic climate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’d argue that the younger generation are just more reserved / introverted generally. Not just a Leicester thing. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, adam95581 said:

I’d argue that the younger generation are just more reserved / introverted generally. Not just a Leicester thing. 

Well that's the point. So you have a framework to build them into confident young men. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Manc Fox J said:

To counter this, KDH definitely bucks the trend but maybe sending the poor lad to Luton and Blackpool toughened him up

Yeah he slipped my mind because he's granite. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Collymore said:

Seems to me we are very good at spotting telent at a young age and have the facilities and know how to bring it through.

 

We're great at nurturing that physical talent.... but there's something massively lacking with the mental/personality side in my opinion. 

 

Can't remember the last big resilient character who's been a leader that has come through?

 

Monga and Evans seem very quiet and reserved - I'd love to see some personally and confidence coming through. 

 

I wonder if this is to do with a lack of role models bringing them through and letting them express themselves maybe? 

 

Seems to be a theme with alot of our youth really...

 

Heskey - possibly one of the most shy youngsters ever. 

 

Monga - seemed to express himself with his ability but now that's been coached out of him there's not much to connect with. 

 

Evans - didn't seem to grab his chance at the start of the season seemed to let things wash over him. 

 

Barnes - Rodgers called him out for being a bit mentally weak. 

 

Chilwell - Wouldn't take a throw in at Millwall! 

 

Nelson - Hope he can be potential leader in the future but seems very quiet and introverted at the moment. 

 

Thomas - No comment. 

 

Think we need some work on the mental side. Top clubs have world-class players that probably understand this automatically but with our cretins promoting youth must be a nightmare in that toxic climate. 

 

It's slightly amusing when our very last game featured an Academy product who captained our team 😅

 

If you're going all the way back to Heskey, then we've had Richard Stearman, Andy King, Alan Sheehan, Max Gradel and Liam Moore have all captained senior teams - that's just off the top of my head. Players like Bassey, Hirst and Kipre have all progressed to a similar or higher level despite being discarded here.

Posted
24 minutes ago, shen said:

It's slightly amusing when our very last game featured an Academy product who captained our team 😅

 

If you're going all the way back to Heskey, then we've had Richard Stearman, Andy King, Alan Sheehan, Max Gradel and Liam Moore have all captained senior teams - that's just off the top of my head. Players like Bassey, Hirst and Kipre have all progressed to a similar or higher level despite being discarded here.

Don't get your point at all. These posts are cementing my original point!

Posted
2 hours ago, Collymore said:

Seems to me we are very good at spotting telent at a young age and have the facilities and know how to bring it through.

 

We're great at nurturing that physical talent.... but there's something massively lacking with the mental/personality side in my opinion. 

 

Can't remember the last big resilient character who's been a leader that has come through?

 

Monga and Evans seem very quiet and reserved - I'd love to see some personally and confidence coming through. 

 

I wonder if this is to do with a lack of role models bringing them through and letting them express themselves maybe? 

 

Seems to be a theme with alot of our youth really...

 

Heskey - possibly one of the most shy youngsters ever. 

 

Monga - seemed to express himself with his ability but now that's been coached out of him there's not much to connect with. 

 

Evans - didn't seem to grab his chance at the start of the season seemed to let things wash over him. 

 

Barnes - Rodgers called him out for being a bit mentally weak. 

 

Chilwell - Wouldn't take a throw in at Millwall! 

 

Nelson - Hope he can be potential leader in the future but seems very quiet and introverted at the moment. 

 

Thomas - No comment. 

 

Think we need some work on the mental side. Top clubs have world-class players that probably understand this automatically but with our cretins promoting youth must be a nightmare in that toxic climate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Barnes seems to have prospered at Newcastle; seems to me to be more aggressive around the box.  Could the problem have had more to do with Rodgers' "coaching" than Barnes' character deficiencies?

Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, Collymore said:

Don't get your point at all. These posts are cementing my original point!

You couldn't think of any recent Academy products that are 'mentally resilient', so I just reeled off a few, while pointing out you missed the obvious (Hamza) and the already mentioned KDH.

 

Do you have a point re: working on the mental part of Academy players today? Maybe. I find it difficult to judge. My initial thought is that I see nothing really untoward with the Academy players that have made the first team. 

 

Actually, the fact we're blooding very young players like Monga, Page, Evans suggests to me that we are preparing Academy players better mentally for first team exposure?

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Posted

Briggs reminds me so much of KDH in terms of his style/mannerisms on the pitch. Criminal we haven’t found him a couple of loans to get him going by now. 

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, shen said:

You couldn't think of any recent Academy products that are 'mentally resilient', so I just reeled off a few, while pointing out you missed the obvious (Hamza) and the already mentioned KDH.

 

Do you have a point re: working on the mental part of Academy players today? Maybe. I find it difficult to judge. My initial thought is that I see nothing really untoward with the Academy players that have made the first team. 

 

Actually, the fact we're blooding very young players like Monga, Page, Evans suggests to me that we are preparing Academy players better mentally for first team exposure?

I wouldn't class Choudhury as a good captain, a good role model or a well rounded individual personally and probably highlights the fact he didn't have good role models when he was coming through - "Tell you what Hamza, let's go and have a party during lockdown....okay"  players like Madders his role model at the time... 

 

Maybe I'm being a little harsh on reflection, it's just young players that make it elsewhere seem to have more mental resilience and personality than most of ours but maybe it's only the top top talent that have that and it helps if they're being introduced to a well balanced squad with excellent role models - not Hamza Choudhury and Harry Winks. 

 

I just feel like getting hold of some of the youngsters and giving them a good shake and saying "you realise how lucky you are to be playing for the first team - savour it, fight tooth and nail for your place and show the world how much this means to you" 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, shen said:

Actually, the fact we're blooding very young players like Monga, Page, Evans suggests to me that we are preparing Academy players better mentally for first team exposure?

It's not helped that Monga, Page and Evans have had Cooper, RVN, Marti, King and now Rowett to work with in their short careers.

 

Each manager has come in firefighting and thrown them in at some point but it all seems a little sink or swim - not sure that's called "blooding in" 

 

I'd prefer that than not being selected at all mind... as you hope you that you do find an absolute diamond that has the natural resilience to soak it all up and perform. Maybe Page has shown it a bit to be fair. 

 

 

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Posted (edited)

Hutchinson overlooked for England youth squads yet again, baffling. 

 

Monga drops down an age group to U18 with Page. De Lisle U17, Aluko U20, Nelson U21.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Holly B said:

Anyone got tickets for tonight’s under 21’s game v Villa ?

No option on LCFC website to buy them 

 

I’m going. You have to buy 24 hours before the game I think, absolutely daft given it’s mobile tickets. 

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