General News Thread

[ClaphamFox]

According to the FBI press conference they have good video footage of the Charlie Kirk suspect as he was escaping through a local neighbourhood. They also have the weapon - a bolt-action rifle - and a footprint. They described the suspect as 'college age' but said they're holding back on releasing any pictures of him, but may do so shortly. They have no idea where he is or how far he has gone.

 

Edited 11 September 2025 by ClaphamFox

[kenny]

10 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Yep. 

 

Everyone ready for the brave new world we're stepping into?

 

Just to clarify, why is this part relevant? If he's violated the law he's violated the law, whatever he might think about the legitimacy of that law. 

The inference is that even if he hasn't violated the law, he has avoided paying the tax using measures such as his wife buying the house and should stand down accordingly.

 

He is different to Rayner in that he doesn't attack people that legally avoid tax.

 

Ballsy as though. Buying a house in your much younger wifes name in a country that doesn't recognise a pre-nup.

[st albans fox]

bit odd 
 

Bohls says they have images of the suspect but "can't comment specifically on his face" as it remains part of the investigation. "We'll release that shortly," he says. 

The special agent adds: "We're not sure how far he has gone yet."

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, kenny said:

The inference is that even if he hasn't violated the law, he has avoided paying the tax using measures such as his wife buying the house and should stand down accordingly.

 

He is different to Rayner in that he doesn't attack people that legally avoid tax.

 

Ballsy as though. Buying a house in your much younger wifes name in a country that doesn't recognise a pre-nup.

Speaking personally I think that a person's attitude towards a law before they break it is a matter of supreme irrelevance, but there you go. 

 

We'll see how things turn out - it's amazing how much you can get away with when you have a smooth con artist manner and appeal to people's prejudice and short term self interest. 

[Tommy G]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Speaking personally I think that a person's attitude towards a law before they break it is a matter of supreme irrelevance, but there you go. 

 

We'll see how things turn out - it's amazing how much you can get away with when you have a smooth con artist manner and appeal to people's prejudice and short term self interest. 

He's going to have bigger fish to fry if he has gifted her the thick end of £800K and they split up, and they aren't married 

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

He's going to have bigger fish to fry if he has gifted her the thick end of £800K and they split up, and they aren't married 

YouTube/Twitter video: "She Took The Kids Away From Me" guaranteed. 

[foxfanazer]

23 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

According to the FBI press conference they have good video footage of the Charlie Kirk suspect as he was escaping through a local neighbourhood. They also have the weapon - a bolt-action rifle - and a footprint. They described the suspect as 'college age' but said they're holding back on releasing any pictures of him, but may do so shortly. They have no idea where he is or how far he has gone.

 

No way they're passing it off as some college kid. That was such a precision hit 

[CornwallFox]

31 minutes ago, kenny said:

The inference is that even if he hasn't violated the law, he has avoided paying the tax using measures such as his wife buying the house and should stand down accordingly.

 

He is different to Rayner in that he doesn't attack people that legally avoid tax.

 

Ballsy as though. Buying a house in your much younger wifes name in a country that doesn't recognise a pre-nup.

Thing is, the official report finds that Raynor had declared what she believed to be correct, that her affairs were very complex, and that she's been open and transparent. 

 

Farage may or may not have stayed within the law by what sounds like exploiting loopholes and not being straight about it. Yet somehow his supporters think he's the honest one 🤷🏻

[ClaphamFox]

14 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

No way they're passing it off as some college kid. That was such a precision hit 

Well I think they were just referring to his age rather than implying he was actually at college. But I'm not sure about the theory that the shooter must have been an expert marksman. There seem to be plenty of people claiming that certain bolt-action rifles are such precision weapons that an amateur could easily make the shot if they were in a prone position, had the aid of a scope and a rifle brace, and the time to prepare.

[kenny]

13 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Thing is, the official report finds that Raynor had declared what she believed to be correct, that her affairs were very complex, and that she's been open and transparent. 

 

Farage may or may not have stayed within the law by what sounds like exploiting loopholes and not being straight about it. Yet somehow his supporters think he's the honest one 🤷🏻

The law around her affairs is very very clearly stated on the government Stamp duty website which her department runs. She can tell people its complicated all she likes, but it isn't at all. Its very clear.

 

Farage has been honest about why the additional stamp duty wasn't due. What he may have been dishonest about is the money as it doesn't appear as though his partner could have afforded the property by herself.

[CornwallFox]

16 minutes ago, kenny said:

The law around her affairs is very very clearly stated on the government Stamp duty website which her department runs. She can tell people its complicated all she likes, but it isn't at all. Its very clear.

 

Farage has been honest about why the additional stamp duty wasn't due. What he may have been dishonest about is the money as it doesn't appear as though his partner could have afforded the property by herself.

The official report into her conduct, which considered her situation in a way you or I wouldn't know it, stated very clearly that her affairs were complex and that she didn't intentionally mislead. That's the official examination of the facts. 

[CornwallFox]

20 minutes ago, kenny said:

The law around her affairs is very very clearly stated on the government Stamp duty website which her department runs. She can tell people its complicated all she likes, but it isn't at all. Its very clear.

 

Farage has been honest about why the additional stamp duty wasn't due. What he may have been dishonest about is the money as it doesn't appear as though his partner could have afforded the property by herself.

And with regard to farage, first he said he bought the house. Then he said he misspoke and actually she bought the house. Now questions are being asked about how she funded that the position is changing from her family gave her the money, towards possibly farage gave her the money..... Let's face it, he bought the house, put it in her name, and avoided paying tax. If you think these are the actions of a future PM id suggest you reflect on what you'd say if it was starmar. 

Edited 11 September 2025 by CornwallFox

[kenny]

15 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The official report into her conduct, which considered her situation in a way you or I wouldn't know it, stated very clearly that her affairs were complex and that she didn't intentionally mislead. That's the official examination of the facts. 

Setting up a trust is complex, which is why it costs quite a bit to do.

 

The decision on stamp duty once its set-up, is not.

[kenny]

14 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

And with regard to farage, first he said he bought the house. Then he said he misspoke and actually she bought the house. Now questions are being asked about how she funded that the position is changing from her family gave her the money, towards possibly farage gave her the money..... Let's face it, he bought the house, put it in her name, and avoided paying tax. If you think these are the actions of a future PM id suggest you reflect on what you'd say if it was starmar. 

I doubt very much he will be PM. I would be surprised if he is an MP by the end of parliament.

 

If he gave her the money and she bought he property in her name, then he should feel the full force of HMRC.

[CornwallFox]

52 minutes ago, kenny said:

Setting up a trust is complex, which is why it costs quite a bit to do.

 

The decision on stamp duty once its set-up, is not.

It's irrelevant what you think. Her circumstances were examined, including the legal advice she'd had, and it was found that she believed in good faith she was due to pay the lower rate, that she self referred as soon as that came into question, and that her error was relying on legal advice that wasn't specialist. Her resignation was due to the finding that, report the report being clear that it is believed she did intend to pay the correct rate, hence getting advice, because she had made an error that was enough to be a breach of the ministerial code. And so she resigned. 

She made an error, it wasn't intentional, she self referred herself, and she resigned upon receiving the report.

Everything there speaks of somebody with a moral compass.

Edited 11 September 2025 by CornwallFox

[CornwallFox]

51 minutes ago, kenny said:

I doubt very much he will be PM. I would be surprised if he is an MP by the end of parliament.

 

If he gave her the money and she bought he property in her name, then he should feel the full force of HMRC.

And on this point we agree.

[kenny]

5 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

It's irrelevant what you think. Her circumstances were examined, including the legal advice she'd had, and it was found that she believed in good faith she was due to pay the lower rate, that she self referred as soon as that came into question, and that her error was relying on legal advice that wasn't specialist. Her resignation was due to the finding that, report the report being clear that it is believed she did intend to pay the correct rate, hence getting advice, because she had made an error that was enough to be a breach of the ministerial code. And so she resigned. 

She made an error, it wasn't intentional, she self referred herself, and she resigned upon receiving the report.

Everything there speaks of somebody with a moral compass.

It speaks of someone with many things none of them overly positive for someone in such a responsible position.

 

She did make an unintended error. It was a basic one she shouldn't have made.

 

Unfortunately for us all, our tax liability isn't based upon what we believe we should pay.

[Sly]

I’ve just paid back a wedge to the HMRC, as my wife couldn’t fill out a form correctly. 

 

Easy done 

[Sly]

We’ve all seen “The Jackle”.

 

That’s got to be a fake face mask. 

[Sly]

Crazy it’s been 24 years since the World Trade Centre attacks. 

[MC Prussian]

4 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

 

I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer.

 

Having a gun won't stop you being shot. It might give you the chance to shoot back, that is all. As a protection you have to be prepared to shoot first... which then makes you a murderer.

 

For the record, the same is true of knives, probably more so.

Not if you act in self-defense.

[Wymsey]

Reckon the shooter was someone who lived with their parents, but rarely got out of the bedroom/struggled to fit into society etc; or has a previous criminal past.

 

Either seemed to be the case with previous 'high-level' shooting incidents in the US; e.g. the one involved in the near-assassination of Trump Snr last year.

Edited 11 September 2025 by Wymsey

[Wymsey]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/sir-peter-soulsby-says-mayor-10490666

 

[whoareyaaa]

 

[MC Prussian]

Weapon in the Charlie Kirk assassination retrieved, a Mauser rifle.

One spent shell casing, three more rounds unused.

 

Talks of the shooter being trans and with Antifa affiliations. The hunt is still on.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15088953/Charlie-Kirk-assassins-ammunition-engraved-transgender-antifascist-messages.html