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2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Yeah even in the Australian shooting, they legally had the guns from what I read. So even stricter laws may have prevented access to the guns. The PM I believe is already talking about stricter laws.

 

The Americans are lost. No point even discussing them.

They are so bizarre they have had so many shootings in the last few months yet they still think guns are a good idea . 

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1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

Have you ever spoken to a pro-gun American about the topic? It's like trying to debate with a religious fanatic. There's no point in bringing facts into the discussion as they have no interest in them. And while there are plenty of Americans who want stricter gun laws, there are nowhere near enough of them to make it happen. You'd have more luck persuading Iran to give up Islam than getting the US to ban guns.

 

 

I have never spoken to any American on the topic but I can imagine it’s like talking to a brick wall. you just have to see how many people on line are trying to compare America to other countries with out realising America is a sh** show to see the mentality on it 

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2 hours ago, fox_up_north said:

I have this image in my head of US arms salesmen rubbing their hands with every school shooting

I would bet good money loads of Americans have bought guns after something like this. For many the answer is somehow more guns.

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2 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

I would bet good money loads of Americans have bought guns after something like this. For many the answer is somehow more guns.

I think that some folks are onto something when they say the guns aren't the only problem. 

 

They are a massive part of it, but it's the whole mentality of individualist paranoia (everyone's out to get me!) that makes them buy them and keep them. 

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On 14/12/2025 at 13:54, leicsmac said:

Perhaps that's because many of the other Abrahamic religious sects who are really interested in domination have (by and large) got enough power to be able to leverage it in less outwardly violent ways in order to attempt to assert ideological control in nations where they have that power?

 

Smart and well established enough to use the law book and media, not the gun and bomb, for their ends. So yeah, no need for euphemisms when there's not as much reported overall overt violence, but I'm not sure that means the overall aim isn't similar. 

Are you trying to infer that Jews (the other Abrahamic religion) are trying to take over the world?

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, danny. said:

Are you trying to infer that Jews (the other Abrahamic religion) are trying to take over the world?

There's far more than simply one more Abrahamic religious sect (how many such sects exist within the three primary Abrahamic religions?), so no, I'm not. 

 

A good example of a method that is equally nasty in terms of its intent but much more subtle in terms of its methods would be Project 2025.

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On 14/12/2025 at 09:25, Sampson said:

One of those things I think we’d all say we might do in that situation but that I think few of us would genuinely have the bravery to do when push came to shove. 

The word 'hero' gets thrown around very lightly these days, but this man truly is one.

 

I'd like to think that I would have done the same in that situation, but I think I'd just been thankful that I could get my legs to move enough to run away, like mostly everyone else.

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41 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

There's far more than simply one more Abrahamic religious sect (how many such sects exist within the three primary Abrahamic religions?), so no, I'm not. 

 

A good example of a method that is equally nasty in terms of its intent but much more subtle in terms of its methods would be Project 2025.

Which Abrahamic religion is project 2025? Honestly not following you here. I've never heard of anyone saying Christianity is trying to take over the world, it had its heyday centuries ago and is extremely passive now.

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13 minutes ago, danny. said:

Which Abrahamic religion is project 2025? Honestly not following you here. I've never heard of anyone saying Christianity is trying to take over the world, it had its heyday centuries ago and is extremely passive now.

Project 2025 is the brainchild of a very specific Christian sect, yes. And considering it already currently has the ear of the most powerful administration on the planet and the ideas it puts forward have prominent political representatives elsewhere, I'd say it's doing pretty well. 

 

When you have the most powerful nation on the planet where it's next to impossible to rise to the highest of offices without a very specific religious belief, then I would also say it's heyday of power, though much more subtle than the days of Inquisition and burning at the stake, still remain. That's a level of power the violent and bloodthirsty Wahabists can only dream of right now. 

 

Totally in contravention of the ideas that the man who is the basis of that religion preached, of course, but they're hardly the only hypocrites there. 

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1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Project 2025 is the brainchild of a very specific Christian sect, yes. And considering it already currently has the ear of the most powerful administration on the planet and the ideas it puts forward have prominent political representatives elsewhere, I'd say it's doing pretty well. 

 

When you have the most powerful nation on the planet where it's next to impossible to rise to the highest of offices without a very specific religious belief, then I would also say it's heyday of power, though much more subtle than the days of Inquisition and burning at the stake, still remain. 

 

Totally in contravention of the ideas that the man who is the basis of that religion preached, of course, but they're hardly the only hypocrites there. 

I'll do some reading, as I understood it that was a political policy and not related to Christianity, a quick Google says the same too but maybe I'm missing something. 

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1 minute ago, danny. said:

I'll do some reading, as I understood it that was a political policy and not related to Christianity, a quick Google says the same too but maybe I'm missing something. 

Please go ahead. And look at the religious makeup of the Heritage Foundation (who came up with it) while you're there. 

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I think I understand your angle. There is a big difference between a religion and its ideologies and an organisation who contains people who are members of a religion.  

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Unacceptable stuff from the BMA.

 

The government's offer is very reasonable and addresses many residents' doctors points.

 

However it seems to come down to greed first and foremost, they've revealed their true intentions which essentially is all about pay, despite the chunky rises they got recently. (And before they talk of pay erosion since 2010, notwithstanding the cherry picked date as it best suits them, their pay roughly tracks or betters most other public sector wages over that time frame).

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19 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Trump’s tribute to Rob Reiner is touching in terms of how psychopathic it is. 

Don’t get how this can be classed as normal to do many people 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, danny. said:

I think I understand your angle. There is a big difference between a religion and its ideologies and an organisation who contains people who are members of a religion.  

I think their stated intent of implanting the ideological values of one specific religious sect - theirs - into the very fabric of a supposedly secular country makes the distinction above rather narrow in this case, but each to their own. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, spacemunky said:

Geez, I'd love to think that isn't real.

You would think it would be a parody account with the way he talks about things it’s genuinely disturbing how much of a disgusting human he is. 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, spacemunky said:

Geez, I'd love to think that isn't real.

I'm convinced Stephen Millar writes his more twisted tweets, as they often have some quite big words in them and an element of punctuation.  Oh and less CAPITAL LETTERS.

 

Like this one.

 

Just when you think MAGA can't go any lower....

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Posted
37 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

I'm convinced Stephen Millar writes his more twisted tweets, as they often have some quite big words in them and an element of punctuation.  Oh and less CAPITAL LETTERS.

 

Like this one.

 

Just when you think MAGA can't go any lower....

You are probably right Millar is also a disgusting person and trump wouldn’t even be able to say all that without forgetting what he was going to say next, or go off to brag about something he thinks he has done never mind write something like that he is thick as pig s***

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