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leicsmac

leicsmac

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4 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Just the other day I watched a fully qualified mechanical engineer machine a set of perfectly square, parallel and ground up vice jaws, took him over a week to get them perfect. He destroyed them in 3 days. 

 

People are dumb. You'll be happier when you embrace it. lol

Agreed. And it would be easier to look away, to walk on by. It would certainly be less stressful. 

 

But I won't. I'm not even sure if I can. That's just me. 

 

Any price to be paid for that...I pay it gladly. 

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Innovindil

Innovindil

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14 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Agreed. And it would be easier to look away, to walk on by. It would certainly be less stressful. 

 

But I won't. I'm not even sure if I can. That's just me. 

 

Any price to be paid for that...I pay it gladly. 

Well it's not a burden I'd wish on anyone. Just make sure that you take some time on yourself too. 

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Jon the Hat

Jon the Hat

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23 hours ago, welck12 said:

Open up ways for people to come here easily to claim asylum. Set up processing centres and process them quickly. It creates vast amount of jobs for people to process them, let's people with legitimate claims get processed and into the country so they can settle and contribute quicker, allows us to remove people who shouldn't be here quickly. That's the easiest way to stop the gangs. You need to eradicate their business model, no need for boats if they can come here freely off their own accord. 

How do you remove those who fail?  

Trav Le Bleu

Trav Le Bleu

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Further to @leicsmacand @Innovindil's comments...

 

High end evaluations of the cost of the wars in Ukraine and Iraq is just under $5 trillion.

 

Which would give approximately $62k to every man, woman and child below the poverty line in the world. 

 

What a sick situation.

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FoxesDeb

FoxesDeb

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3 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Would it be cheaper for developed countries to aid developing countries, so that people didn't want to leave their homeland, than spending all the money on immigrants?

 

And I don't mean send money. Money has a way of going missing. I mean send aid. Build stuff for them, send educators and health workers (the latter is ironic I know, given how many of our health workers are immigrants).

 

Having said that, can we be sure individuals in our own government wouldn't skim the cream with who they gave contracts to, etc?

This is what Spain does. It financially helps border control in the countries we receive the most asylum seekers from, but also sends people to help with training in many different areas, and funds initiatives to help them with their water, roads, renewable energy and all sorts of things. If we can help make their places better places to live it hopefully reduces the desire to leave for Europe.

 

We've also recently had an amnesty where people already living here and working under the radar can apply for residency which means they will pay taxes and have access to health care, reducing the exploitation which currently goes on with the illegal migrants when they aren’t registered and therefore have no rights.

 

Not perfect, and of course we still have people arriving on small boats, but at least it's something.

 

 

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davieG

davieG

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The BBC Newsnight confrontation that left Shell's CEO speechless — and revealed how ordinary Britons can finally take back control of their finances

 

Farage v Wael Sawan — the CEO of Shell

 

Your energy bill funds something you were never supposed to find out about. On BBC Newsnight the Reform leader explained what — and showed a way out. Shell's CEO left the studio before he finished.

 

 

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Anyone got any thoughts they'd like to share on this?

Bellend Sebastian

Bellend Sebastian

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55 minutes ago, davieG said:

The BBC Newsnight confrontation that left Shell's CEO speechless — and revealed how ordinary Britons can finally take back control of their finances

 

Farage v Wael Sawan — the CEO of Shell

 

Your energy bill funds something you were never supposed to find out about. On BBC Newsnight the Reform leader explained what — and showed a way out. Shell's CEO left the studio before he finished.

 

 

Get rich quick with £250

 

 FCA-registered, number FRN 922847

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Anyone got any thoughts they'd like to share on this?

My first thought is that that's a made up FCA number (I've checked, it is) and whatever that link is to is well dodgy

Mike the Metal Ed

Mike the Metal Ed

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1 hour ago, davieG said:

The BBC Newsnight confrontation that left Shell's CEO speechless — and revealed how ordinary Britons can finally take back control of their finances

 

Farage v Wael Sawan — the CEO of Shell

 

Your energy bill funds something you were never supposed to find out about. On BBC Newsnight the Reform leader explained what — and showed a way out. Shell's CEO left the studio before he finished.

 

 

Get rich quick with £250

 

 FCA-registered, number FRN 922847

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Anyone got any thoughts they'd like to share on this?

 

Latest version of the scam that this video deals with.

davieG

davieG

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15 minutes ago, ian__marshall said:

Let's save everyone time and effort and highlight that it's a false story. Welcome to the internet and the world of misinformation.

Apologies saw BBC and assumed it was legitimate 

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Bellend Sebastian

Bellend Sebastian

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3 minutes ago, davieG said:

Apologies saw BBC and assumed it was legitimate 

Yeah, there's a lot of that about. Someone was telling me the other day about how they're "trying to get Sharia Law through Parliament" and when I gently asked where they saw this fairly significant news, confidently told me "The BBC" 

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Sampson

Sampson

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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cgrk4rpxnx7t

 

First signals of what Burnham "stands for" (quotations aren't meant to be demeaning here, just a reference to common discussion thar it was difficult to know what Starmer actually had as a political philosophy) seems to be devolution, decentralisation and regionalisation. Interesting to see the finer details,  whether this means local councils get more powers or if we actually get more visible regional governments like they have in Scotland, Wales or theoretically Northern Ireland (even if the NIron one hasn't been functional for several years). So that we have like an East Midlands' regional government that can decide tax or health care policy in the East Midlands?

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davieG

davieG

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1 minute ago, Sampson said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cgrk4rpxnx7t

 

First signals of what Burnham "stands for" (quotations aren't meant to be demeaning here, just a reference to common discussion thar it was difficult to know what Starmer actually had as a political philosophy) seems to be devolution, decentralisation and regionalisation. Interesting to see the finer details,  whether this means local councils get more powers or if we actually get more visible regional governments like they have in Scotland, Wales or theoretically Northern Ireland (even if the NIron one hasn't been functional for several years). So that we have like an East Midlands' regional government that can decide tax or health care policy in the East Midlands?

Unfortunately the East Midlands mayoral region is just Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire I believe Soulsby wasn't convinced so we'll miss out again.

Sampson

Sampson

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1 minute ago, davieG said:

Unfortunately the East Midlands mayoral region is just Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire I believe Soulsby wasn't convinced so we'll miss out again.

We'll I assume if it did happen, it'd be representatives from all the constituencies in the geographical region - so all the mps in Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire,  Northamptonshire, Rutland and the half of Lincolnshire thats in the East Midlands.

 

But obviously thisis just speculation, the details haven't been shared yet. 

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CrazyKopCorner

CrazyKopCorner

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Decentralisation, regionalism and more authority to local authorities what could possibly go wrong! 

 

No questions allowed of course 

 

Another clueless numpty 

 

Get Starmer back 

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Zear0

Zear0

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7 hours ago, Innovindil said:

Just the other day I watched a fully qualified mechanical engineer machine a set of perfectly square, parallel and ground up vice jaws, took him over a week to get them perfect. He destroyed them in 3 days. 

 

People are dumb. You'll be happier when you embrace it. lol

Wasn’t me was it..?

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Lionator

Lionator

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1 hour ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

Decentralisation, regionalism and more authority to local authorities what could possibly go wrong! 

 

No questions allowed of course 

 

Another clueless numpty 

 

Get Starmer back 

I can’t believe anyone can look at our political system and think “yes we need more Westminster”. I’ve just caught up with his speech and thought it was a breath of fresh air. We are a regionally diverse country. Cornwall is so different to London, Aberdeenshire is so different to Norfolk, these places should be afforded more responsibility for their areas. Let these places thrive on their own terms. We cannot go on the way we have been. There’ll be failures along the way but my good god local investment and choice with that local investment is what we need. 
 

Also brings us a lot closer to the end of Soulsby thank goodness. 

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Sly

Sly

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5 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I can’t believe anyone can look at our political system and think “yes we need more Westminster”. I’ve just caught up with his speech and thought it was a breath of fresh air. We are a regionally diverse country. Cornwall is so different to London, Aberdeenshire is so different to Norfolk, these places should be afforded more responsibility for their areas. Let these places thrive on their own terms. We cannot go on the way we have been. There’ll be failures along the way but my good god local investment and choice with that local investment is what we need. 
 

Also brings us a lot closer to the end of Soulsby thank goodness. 

The thing is, I don’t think his proposal would get him voted in would it? 
 

I said it under the conservatives before the disastrous Liz Truzz budget, if we are changing path, we should have a general election.

 

It is bloody stupid!  

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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3 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Three examples where their faith has no bearing on the outcome.

I'll be honest, I'm not sure how many times that's stopped them from toeing the tangerine line before, but I know what you mean. 

kenny

kenny

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43 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I can’t believe anyone can look at our political system and think “yes we need more Westminster”. I’ve just caught up with his speech and thought it was a breath of fresh air. We are a regionally diverse country. Cornwall is so different to London, Aberdeenshire is so different to Norfolk, these places should be afforded more responsibility for their areas. Let these places thrive on their own terms. We cannot go on the way we have been. There’ll be failures along the way but my good god local investment and choice with that local investment is what we need. 
 

Also brings us a lot closer to the end of Soulsby thank goodness. 

Be interesting to see the scenario where the home secretary introduces a load of safe and legal routes for refugees and the Reform mayor rejects them as it's in their manifesto. They will all have to go to areas with majority support for immigration.

 

Or the situation where the mayor rejects a national infrastructure project as their constituents have rejected as part of a manifesto.

 

I suspect I these cases, devolution will go to the birds as Farage would say and make a mockery of the system.

Lionator

Lionator

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53 minutes ago, Sly said:

The thing is, I don’t think his proposal would get him voted in would it? 
 

I said it under the conservatives before the disastrous Liz Truzz budget, if we are changing path, we should have a general election.

 

It is bloody stupid!  

I think his whole aim is to merge the domestic issues of reform voters with those of Labour voters (because most of them overlap). 

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