General News Thread

[FoxesDeb]

6 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Depends where you come from. There are schemes for those coming from Ukraine, Hong Kong and some from Afganistan. Google is helpful 

 

The post was referring to 'legitimate' routes of which there are some.

But the OP was talking about asylum seekers arriving on small boats because they have no other option, not people from either Hong Kong or Ukraine, at least I don't think people from these countries are arriving across the channel. The Afghanistan scheme was closed in the summer according to Google.

[BKLFox]

What’s classed as a legal route into UK?

If someone from Vietnam secured a visitors visa for £127 jumped on a plane for £380 and when going through passport control declared they want to claim asylum is that illegal?

Cheaper and less risk to life unless they board a jet2 flight maybe, than the epic cross of several countries & dangerous waters.

 

Is this not done because it’s easier to identify the person as they have documents and therefore easier to process & clear understanding if they are at risk in their parent country with a yes / no?

 

Is the boat route used to tie up the process or have the opportunity to just disappear? 
 

 

[CornwallFox]

2 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

What’s classed as a legal route into UK?

If someone from Vietnam secured a visitors visa for £127 jumped on a plane for £380 and when going through passport control declared they want to claim asylum is that illegal?

Cheaper and less risk to life unless they board a jet2 flight maybe, than the epic cross of several countries & dangerous waters.

 

Is this not done because it’s easier to identify the person as they have documents and therefore easier to process & clear understanding if they are at risk in their parent country with a yes / no?

 

Is the boat route used to tie up the process or have the opportunity to just disappear? 
 

 

This is completely false and a clear misunderstanding of asylum law. 

In order to claim asylum, an asylum seeker has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they personally are at risk in a qualifying way within their own country. 

 

The onus is on them to prove their case.

 

To do that they absolutely have to prove who they are. Destroying their ID documents would make it very, very difficult to successfully apply. 

 

Edited 30 October 2025 by CornwallFox

[Leicester_Loyal]

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

maybe I’ve missed something on this but if she’s used a local agent and wasn’t advised then she shouldn’t be held responsible - UNLESS she used the cheapest available option in the area.  You pay peanuts ………..

[Lionator]

Maniac Trump wants to start testing nukes again while his new nominee for the head of Stratcom tells senate that there’s zero need for it and everyone else saying it would lead to Russia and China testing too, and catching up on the advantage USA has over them. What a fool. 

[Lionator]

Starmer’s going to sack Reeves before the budget I think. Gives him a fresh economic start and he can blame it all on her.

[leicsmac]

34 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Maniac Trump wants to start testing nukes again while his new nominee for the head of Stratcom tells senate that there’s zero need for it and everyone else saying it would lead to Russia and China testing too, and catching up on the advantage USA has over them. What a fool. 

Is anyone really surprised?

 

To add to the general scorched Earth feeling going on here, millions of Americans are about to lose critical food benefits because of the government shutdown. 

[Spudulike]

31 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Starmer’s going to sack Reeves before the budget I think. Gives him a fresh economic start and he can blame it all on her.

Expect that she'll be relieved. Save the tears.

Edited 30 October 2025 by Spudulike

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy40jj71243o

 

That's the kind of immigration policy the UK is looking for, right?

 

Come on, take those masks off just as the counterparts across the pond have all along...

[Trav Le Bleu]

I would guess that generally an asylum seeker would leave their country illegally, which might make it difficult to be carrying legit documents.

 

They're not exactly going to walk up to border patrol and hand over their actual passport, ie, the one the guards have specific instructions not to allow out the country (or arrest, or even shoot on sight).

Edited 30 October 2025 by Trav Le Bleu

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

Starmer’s going to sack Reeves before the budget I think. Gives him a fresh economic start and he can blame it all on her.

They've released emails where they instructed the letting agent to apply for the licence and the letting agent confirmed they would. She's done nothing wrong.

[Bellend Sebastian]

7 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

They've released emails where they instructed the letting agent to apply for the licence and the letting agent confirmed they would. She's done nothing wrong.

I'm sure we used to be a serious country at one point. The stuff we ignore and the effort that is poured into nothing.

 

Just feel like we're an ocean of perpetually shrieking twats now

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

I'm sure we used to be a serious country at one point. The stuff we ignore and the effort that is poured into nothing.

 

Just feel like we're an ocean of perpetually shrieking twats now

Americanisation and social media both to blame for that, sadly. 

 

And one day, the damage that conceit, that lack of focus on things that actually matter, will cause will be absolute.

Edited 30 October 2025 by leicsmac

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Expect that she'll be relieved. Save the tears.

So she should be, being the chancellor of a Western European country right now is an impossible job. 

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Is anyone really surprised?

 

To add to the general scorched Earth feeling going on here, millions of Americans are about to lose critical food benefits because of the government shutdown. 

I’m stunned how long this is going on for and nothing seems to be being said about. The US government has literally ceased to function while fartface is going around threatening to irradiate the Nevada desert. 

 

 

Edited 30 October 2025 by Lionator

[leicsmac]

Just now, Lionator said:

I’m stunned how long this is going on for and nothing seems to be being said about. The US government has literally ceased to function while fartface is going around threatening to radiate the Nevada desert.

I think that's because everyone either considers that batshit cruelty simply par for the course for this administration, or they're actually OK with both of those things but just don't want to articulate it. 

[Spudulike]

3 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

They've released emails where they instructed the letting agent to apply for the licence and the letting agent confirmed they would. She's done nothing wrong.

The BBC just referred to an email from the letting agent saying that a licence was required and offered to apply on their behalf. They didn't but also didn't confirm if they were instructed to do so.

 

Sick to death of politicians trying to get colleagues removed. Much better spending time running thr country. That said, Labour vigorously went after opponents at every chance they got. They can't complain now. Starmer will know that ignorance is no defence.

 

I'd have thought the Conservatives would prefer Reeves to stay in post.

[Trav Le Bleu]

What's Jon Rudkin's letting arrangements?

[Leicester_Loyal]

38 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

They've released emails where they instructed the letting agent to apply for the licence and the letting agent confirmed they would. She's done nothing wrong.

And if me or you did that? We'd be fined and have to sue the letting agents to get our fine money back?

[Bellend Sebastian]

Honestly, I've built a wicker man for nothing AGAIN

[st albans fox]

Andy is off  ( note no title whatsoever ) 

going ……going ……soon to be gone !

 

no doubt weighed in for the spend on the lodge and he’ll relocate to the gulf or somewhere equally obscure. 

 

 

[Spudulike]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Andy is off  ( note no title whatsoever ) 

going ……going ……soon to be gone !

 

no doubt weighed in for the spend on the lodge and he’ll relocate to the gulf or somewhere equally obscure. 

 

 

Probably write a book like his nephew. No sweat.

[Mike Oxlong]

12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Andy is off  ( note no title whatsoever ) 

going ……going ……soon to be gone !

 

no doubt weighed in for the spend on the lodge and he’ll relocate to the gulf or somewhere equally obscure. 

 

 

He's also moving to a private property on the Saff 

[Vacamion]

14 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Andy is off  ( note no title whatsoever ) 

going ……going ……soon to be gone !

 

no doubt weighed in for the spend on the lodge and he’ll relocate to the gulf or somewhere equally obscure. 

 

 

 

For a geezer who denies all wrongdoing, he's been hit fairly hard, aint he?