General News Thread

[Salisbury Fox]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

This is going to play right into the hands of the 2-tier believers. Perhaps they have a point?

I suppose the comparisons with Lucy Connolly are not accurate as she pleaded guilty, but she was clearly ill advised to do so given this judgement. It’s seems very strange that you can be found not guilty after being filmed calling for slitting of throats. The ‘I never meant it defence’ seems to work.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Welcome to the political dilemma science communicators (and me) have been tearing our hair out about for a long time now. 

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So you're not a science communicator?

 

No more of your mumbo-jumbo heat world theory and kowtow-beniceyniceyness then!

[Clogger_]

5 minutes ago, Salisbury Fox said:

I suppose the comparisons with Lucy Connolly are not accurate as she pleaded guilty, but she was clearly ill advised to do so given this judgement. It’s seems very strange that you can be found not guilty after being filmed calling for slitting of throats. The ‘I never meant it defence’ seems to work.

Or maybe the jury were sympathetic to his description of 'far-right protesters' as "disgusting Nazi fascists?"

 

Trial by jury, eh. We'll never know their reasons

 

[Zear0]

Trump is saying some suspiciously sensible things in advance of the meeting with Putin.  Either the penny has dropped, or he's playing lip service to it all before slinging them under a bus.  Find out soon enough.

[Trav Le Bleu]

36 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

Guess you missed the mighty RATM

**** you, he won't do what you tell him.

[BKLFox]

25 minutes ago, Salisbury Fox said:

I suppose the comparisons with Lucy Connolly are not accurate as she pleaded guilty, but she was clearly ill advised to do so given this judgement. It’s seems very strange that you can be found not guilty after being filmed calling for slitting of throats. The ‘I never meant it defence’ seems to work.

I do believe that all at the time were told if they pleaded not guilty they would not get bail & that long court hearing dates would mean they would remain in custody for a fair few months, effectively being coerced into pleading guilty in order to be released.
In the case of Lucy, a mother to a young child, wife & carer to a sick man and someone with good standing & no prior, a woman actively aiding women in their own immigration processes helping with paperwork and acting as a character witness the advice was to plead guilty and accept the expected slap on the wrist.

 

She is still being held despite being eligible for tag release and fitting all the criteria in order to be so, they have yet to advise why she remains in prison, political prisoner springs to mind.

 

 

 

Edited 15 August 2025 by BKLFox

[leicsmac]

9 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

So you're not a science communicator?

 

No more of your mumbo-jumbo heat world theory and kowtow-beniceyniceyness then!

I am, but I was making the distinction because there are so many out there much better at it than I am. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

 

3 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

Or maybe the jury were sympathetic to his description of 'far-right protesters' as "disgusting Nazi fascists?"

 

Trial by jury, eh. We'll never know their reasons

 

Those bloody randomly selected woke juries at it again, making decisions based on the evidence presented after someone is arrested, charged and the case deemed of sufficient seriousness to go to Crown Court.

 

Stop getting the two tier justice system (which must exist because people say it does and why would they lie) wrong!!!

 

Personally I'm quite relieved as I made that gesture when I brought a hot Christian girl out and my mate proceeded to tell us in great detail about how he'd just been listening to an NWA track where Eazy-E was so cross about a romantic interaction with a transexual that he shot their genitalia off (apparently Eazy-E is no longer with us, unsure to what extent he's missed if this is what he gets up to), so it's good to know that this doesn't automatically lead to incarceration

[CosbehFox]

Amazing part on that councillor today is that the jury only debated for only thirty minutes.

 

Connolly issue is the subsequent text messages and previous tweets. I suspect it’s because of them she was advised to plead guilty. There is no doubt of the crime whereas that councillor can claim doubt to the crime. 

 

The sentence is a separate issue. 

Edited 15 August 2025 by CosbehFox

[Clogger_]

23 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I do believe that all at the time were told if they pleaded not guilty they would not get bail & that long court hearing dates would mean they would remain in custody for a fair few months, effectively being coerced into pleading guilty in order to be released.
In the case of Lucy, a mother to a young child, wife & carer to a sick man and someone with good standing & no prior, a woman actively aiding women in their own immigration processes helping with paperwork and acting as a character witness the advice was to plead guilty and accept the expected slap on the wrist.

 

She is still being held despite being eligible for tag release and fitting all the criteria in order to be so, they have yet to advise why she remains in prison, political prisoner springs to mind.

 

 

 

Notwithstanding, I'm sure you agree her crime was absolutely sickening

[st albans fox]

Did lavrov really arrive in Alaska wearing a CCCP top ???

[urban.spaceman]

47 minutes ago, Salisbury Fox said:

I suppose the comparisons with Lucy Connolly are not accurate as she pleaded guilty, but she was clearly ill advised to do so given this judgement. It’s seems very strange that you can be found not guilty after being filmed calling for slitting of throats. The ‘I never meant it defence’ seems to work.

 

22 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I do believe that all at the time were told if they pleaded not guilty they would not get bail & that long court hearing dates would mean they would remain in custody for a fair few months, effectively being coerced into pleading guilty in order to be released.
In the case of Lucy, a mother to a young child, wife & carer to a sick man and someone with good standing & no prior, a woman actively aiding women in their own immigration processes helping with paperwork and acting as a character witness the advice was to plead guilty and accept the expected slap on the wrist.

 

She is still being held despite being eligible for tag release and fitting all the criteria in order to be so, they have yet to advise why she remains in prison, political prisoner springs to mind.

She could have been entitled to Legal Aid but unfortunately her husband's party cut that to the bone. 

 

She also might have been able to have had her trial heard much quicker but unfortunately her husband's party created huge backlogs in the courts system.

 

She probably wouldn't even have committed the crime she confessed and plead guilty to if we weren't housing asylum seekers in hotels but unfortunately her husband's party destroyed the asylum system and decided to put them in hotels instead. And they probably wouldn't even be coming on small boats but unfortunately her husband's party took us out of the EU and out of the Dublin Arrangement which means we can't turn them around an escort them back to their point of origin. Whoops.

 

She could have been living in a 'safer' community but unfortunately her husband’s party cut police numbers and community programmes that would have made it feel safer.

 

She could have been given proper mental health support but unfortunately her husband's party gutted those services.

 

She should be grateful that she'll be entitled to early release after serving 40% of her sentence which was decreased from 50% by the new government after her husband’s party left prisons quite literally at breaking point. 

 

Political prisoner? Or someone being held accountable for a crime they committed and plead guilty to committing, and facing the consequences of quite literally everything she has voted for and directly enabled?

 

It's honestly astonishing she has the gall to whinge about it. 

 

The term "hoist by her own retard" springs to mind. 

[Torquay Gunner]

2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

This is going to play right into the hands of the 2-tier believers. Perhaps they have a point?

 

How so? A jury found this counsellor not guilty.  Farage once again talking out of his arse. 

[PAULCFC]

23 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

 

 

The term "hoist by her own retard" springs to mind. 

This made me laugh way more than it should!

[Salisbury Fox]

16 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

She could have been entitled to Legal Aid but unfortunately her husband's party cut that to the bone. 

 

She also might have been able to have had her trial heard much quicker but unfortunately her husband's party created huge backlogs in the courts system.

 

She probably wouldn't even have committed the crime she confessed and plead guilty to if we weren't housing asylum seekers in hotels but unfortunately her husband's party destroyed the asylum system and decided to put them in hotels instead. And they probably wouldn't even be coming on small boats but unfortunately her husband's party took us out of the EU and out of the Dublin Arrangement which means we can't turn them around an escort them back to their point of origin. Whoops.

 

She could have been living in a 'safer' community but unfortunately her husband’s party cut police numbers and community programmes that would have made it feel safer.

 

She could have been given proper mental health support but unfortunately her husband's party gutted those services.

 

She should be grateful that she'll be entitled to early release after serving 40% of her sentence which was decreased from 50% by the new government after her husband’s party left prisons quite literally at breaking point. 

 

Political prisoner? Or someone being held accountable for a crime they committed and plead guilty to committing, and facing the consequences of quite literally everything she has voted for and directly enabled?

 

It's honestly astonishing she has the gall to whinge about it. 

 

The term "hoist by her own retard" springs to mind. 

You’re mistaken if you think I was defending Connolly as I thought I made it clear by saying she pleaded guilty and so the two cases cannot be compared. I do however find it strange that on face value Jones’ was found not guilty of encouraging violent disorder when calling for peoples throats to be cut. Clearly I am not privy to the evidence provided, but the optics of this decision just doesn’t feel right.

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, Zear0 said:

Trump is saying some suspiciously sensible things in advance of the meeting with Putin.  Either the penny has dropped, or he's playing lip service to it all before slinging them under a bus.  Find out soon enough.

He just ‘truthed’ that he spoke to the ‘highly respected leader of Belarus Aleksandr Lukashenko’ 🤣🤣

[Lionator]

So we’re now at the point of people wanting to overturn his majesty’s court of law when there’s a jury outcome that they don’t like? 
 

We’ve lost the plot. 

[nnfox]

1 hour ago, BKLFox said:

I do believe that all at the time were told if they pleaded not guilty they would not get bail & that long court hearing dates would mean they would remain in custody for a fair few months, effectively being coerced into pleading guilty in order to be released.
In the case of Lucy, a mother to a young child, wife & carer to a sick man and someone with good standing & no prior, a woman actively aiding women in their own immigration processes helping with paperwork and acting as a character witness the advice was to plead guilty and accept the expected slap on the wrist.

 

She is still being held despite being eligible for tag release and fitting all the criteria in order to be so, they have yet to advise why she remains in prison, political prisoner springs to mind.

 

 

 

There was no way she was expecting a "slap on the wrists"! She was always going to prison and would have got a longer sentence if she had pleaded not guilty.  The wheels of government were turning to restore order to the streets.  Punishment was swift and harsh and order was restored.

 

The subsequent Go Fund Me campaign has enabled her husband to pay off the mortgage and put their daughter through private school, but y'know, crime doesn't pay.

[urban.spaceman]

12 minutes ago, Salisbury Fox said:

You’re mistaken if you think I was defending Connolly as I thought I made it clear by saying she pleaded guilty and so the two cases cannot be compared.

Wasn’t necessarily aimed at you, just quoted you in as part of the conversation context. 
 

12 minutes ago, Salisbury Fox said:

I do however find it strange that on face value Jones’ was found not guilty of encouraging violent disorder when calling for peoples throats to be cut. Clearly I am not privy to the evidence provided, but the optics of this decision just doesn’t feel right.

That’s the problem, we’re now so conditioned into reacting to an attention grabbing headline with a strong immediate opinion that we forget about context. Or to put it this way:

 

20 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Its a toxic part of our online culture that has real and serious consequences down the line. 

[Zear0]

19 minutes ago, Lionator said:

He just ‘truthed’ that he spoke to the ‘highly respected leader of Belarus Aleksandr Lukashenko’ 🤣🤣

Yeah not the best timing on that one.

[urban.spaceman]

3 minutes ago, nnfox said:

There was no way she was expecting a "slap on the wrists"! She was always going to prison and would have got a longer sentence if she had pleaded not guilty.  The wheels of government were turning to restore order to the streets.  Punishment was swift and harsh and order was restored.

 

The subsequent Go Fund Me campaign has enabled her husband to pay off the mortgage and put their daughter through private school, but y'know, crime doesn't pay.

Still, at least they’re paying VAT on it. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Did lavrov really arrive in Alaska wearing a CCCP top ???

Da

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

The term "hoist by her own retard" springs to mind. 

I think it's a bit of a damp squid personally.

[BKLFox]

Fair enough people seem happy with both outcomes & justice served as it was, a win for the justice system & the fight between wrong and right.

[urban.spaceman]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I think it's a bit of a damp squid personally.

That's because you're putting it on a pedal stool.