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messerschmitt

messerschmitt

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6 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

We haven’t sold any of the key players you mention. People are reacting to rumours of other clubs being interested in our players as if we’ve actually sold those players and haven’t replaced them. It’s bizarre.

 

Years ago Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse did this sketch called ‘The Self-Righteous Brothers’ in which two middle-aged blokes would sit in a pub conjuring up entirely hypothetical scenarios involving celebrities behaving badly and then work themselves up into a rage about it, thereby getting into a complete state about something that hadn’t even happened. I’m somehow reminded of that sketch whenever a transfer window comes around. 
 

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I'd say "OIIII MOYES, NO"

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Bluearmyfox28

Bluearmyfox28

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9 hours ago, Richmondfox said:

We want the dross sold not our only good players.

 

Get rid of Abdul, BEK and Winks and what do we have left? Zero passes forward.

 

Our two full backs are scared to even think about looking forwards, Mavadidi wants content for his step over YouTube clips and Ayew is great at countering any counter attack.  Soumare and Skipp in midfield is obvious. Then we have the chuckle brothers at cb. 

 

Our best player is 16 years old.

 

did you just purposefully choose to ignore the second part of my post? 

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dylanlegend

dylanlegend

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22 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

This is beginning to feel like a fire sale. 

 

 

What did we all expect? This is waht happens if you are forced to follow PSR rules and not cook the books like most clubs do. PSR needs a huge reform 

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It'sblueupnorth

It'sblueupnorth

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16 hours ago, dylanlegend said:

What did we all expect? This is waht happens if you are forced to follow PSR rules and not cook the books like most clubs do. PSR needs a huge reform 

Whilst I agree you must be taking the piss? It’s what you get when there’s no direction or leadership at the club so you pay over the odds and give bang average players lottery winning contracts

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dylanlegend

dylanlegend

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8 hours ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

Whilst I agree you must be taking the piss? It’s what you get when there’s no direction or leadership at the club so you pay over the odds and give bang average players lottery winning contracts

Wrote something that AI sums up much better than I do, this is bascially us and will happen to teams like Villa, Forest soon… unfortuantely it’s inevitable…..

 

It sounds like you’re describing the classic “post-success hangover” that happens to mid-to-upper-tier Premier League clubs who punch above their financial weight.

 

The pattern is pretty familiar:

 

  1. Overachievement phase – A clever recruitment strategy, a tight-knit core of players, and maybe a bit of luck (injuries, other clubs underperforming) leads to a huge peak — winning the league or getting into Europe.
  2. Expectation inflation – Success raises the bar, and the club starts spending more on wages and transfers to stay at that level. But the revenue base (matchday, commercial, broadcast share) can’t match the true “big club” income streams.
  3. Recruitment misfires – The early signings (Maddison, Ricardo, Maguire in your case) hit big because the scouting was sharp and risk-taking paid off. But when replacements are rushed, overpriced, or don’t fit the manager’s style, the squad quality dips.
  4. Core player erosion – Losing two or three of the key spine players often triggers a downward spiral. The replacements rarely slot in seamlessly, especially if the market is inflated.
  5. Financial strain + regulation – Under the old FFP setup, clubs could sometimes fudge it with creative accounting. Now, with PSR (Profit & Sustainability Rules) actually enforced via points deductions, there’s less wriggle room, so clubs can’t just gamble on bouncing back in a season.

 

 

You’re also right that Forest, Villa, Brighton could all be next if they can’t keep their “core” and maintain hit-rate recruitment. The difference for some of them might be:

 

  • Villa have a wealthy owner willing to push PSR limits, but even they have started selling players to stay compliant.
  • Brighton’s recruitment model is more sustainable than most, but it only takes a few bad windows for the system to falter.
  • Forest are already walking a PSR tightrope.

 

 

It’s less about “luck” alone and more about how hard it is to replace your core without overspending when you’re outside the financial elite.

 

If you want, I can break down exactly why Leicester’s post-title trajectory matches the same curve as clubs like Blackburn in the 90s or even Portsmouth in the late 2000s — the pattern’s eerily similar.

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CL Fox

CL Fox

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Abdul is younger than Hutchinson and has a much better record than him. He's also got 4 years on his contract- you'd be talking 40m plus tbh.

Mickyblueeyes

Mickyblueeyes

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1 minute ago, CL Fox said:

Abdul is younger than Hutchinson and has a much better record than him. He's also got 4 years on his contract- you'd be talking 40m plus tbh.

Villa also in PSR problems and quite restricted. 

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CrazyKopCorner

CrazyKopCorner

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This is the problem. 

 

The useless ***** that got us into this position are now charged with selling our best assets at the best price to get us out of the shite they've created. 

 

This is what happens when there's no accountability in a failing business. 

 

As some else said a minimum £75m to even consider any deal 

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FrankieADZ

FrankieADZ

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55 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:


 

as you said further in the thread, Villa cant spend it

48 minutes ago, BrummieFOX said:

Let's hope so. 

they wont be able to spend it, Villa had to sell an asset which they will have with Ramsey, 

Bailey going to Roma would probably free them up to get Asensio again

as I highly doubt Villa would want to spend what upwards of £40mil maybe more 

 

its frankly another non starter with no real foundation at all

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Lionator

Lionator

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48 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Can’t spend it. According to Tom Collomosse

Obviously I’m glad they can’t spend it because of Abdul, but the rules are an utter disgrace when you look at what Villa and Newcastle are having to do this summer. PSR was a complete scam to maintain the status quo. 

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