Our fans are also to blame

[Gamble92]

I could never just give up on us. I said it in the BSLB Podcast thread that as much as I enjoy those lads speaking, I find their attitude of not celebrating goals or not watching games bizarre. Not least because they have to talk about us.

 

But it's a debate that's gone across the whole fanbase. Seems to be split between those who think the best way is to abandon us Vs those who relentlessly turn up and clap the team off. 

 

I couldn't do either. Not a chance I ever give up on Leicester but there's no ****ing way I'm stood there like a brain dead moron clapping them off. It's not showing support. It's enabling our demise. 

 

We are very absolute now in general. Something that's stretches beyond supporting Leicester. It's just a very strange way to live your life. 

[Filbertblue]

1 hour ago, JonnyBoy said:

One thing i have seen in this thread, is that is has really rattled a lot of people. Unfortunately, some don't have the brain capacity to understand the angle he is coming from, some don't want to understand it. 

 

from outside looking in, the optics don't look good when we are getting pretty much full stadiums for a while now and no protest action. It looks like business as usual 

We are getting full stadiums because they are supporters of LCFC. Some of will be supporters even if drop out of the league and we become a non league team. Go ahead call us names, call us happy clappers, call us passive fans but I not going to stop supporting this club because we had a couple of bad seasons and just because we lost one league game of this season. Many here think we are entitled to walk this league - what a laugh! 

[Spanner73]

7 minutes ago, Filbertblue said:

We are getting full stadiums because they are supporters of LCFC. Some of will be supporters even if drop out of the league and we become a non league team. Go ahead call us names, call us happy clappers, call us passive fans but I not going to stop supporting this club because we had a couple of bad seasons and just because we lost one league game of this season. Many here think we are entitled to walk this league - what a laugh! 

A couple of bad seasons has nothing to do with the outstanding neglect and incompetence shown over many years at this football club by its owner. That is what this is about ! 
 

 

 

[JonnyBoy]

16 minutes ago, Filbertblue said:

We are getting full stadiums because they are supporters of LCFC. Some of will be supporters even if drop out of the league and we become a non league team. Go ahead call us names, call us happy clappers, call us passive fans but I not going to stop supporting this club because we had a couple of bad seasons and just because we lost one league game of this season. Many here think we are entitled to walk this league - what a laugh! 

 

This isn't a conversation about people being better fans than others, the conversation is around change and what choices people have to try and instigate change i think you are getting lost. What Jayfox is saying is that until there is noticeable change in the stands, people buying merch, etc. things probably won't change. Blink and the next thing you know we are in league one with players on 50 grand a week and in a PSR headlock 

 

We all love the club, some just want us ran like a proper club again and stepping away from attending is their belief of doing their bit. If you are happy with the way the way the club is being ran and still attend that is absolutely fine also. But wanting change whilst still lacing the club/ownership with money isn't going to help bring about said change. 

 

Edited 19 August 2025 by JonnyBoy

[Filbertblue]

15 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

Please go back and read his original post, if you can''t understand what he is trying to say then i can't help you either 

 

P.s. I also don't go to games anymore, I had a season ticket last season and gave it up mainly because of the reasons he has already outlined 

I read what he has to say and I don't agree. He later said he doesn't go doesn't to matches and he doesn't buy buy the merchandise. OK that's up to him. I have no problem with that. Then later on  he says oh take no notice of me I am just a 38 year old having a moan. Now admit to being a happy clapper but I am not passive. If anyone slags of this great club I push back. Anyone slags off Top or King Power I push back also. No other owner has won more than our current owners. No other owner has donated more to local hospitals than our current owners. If people want to slag off that's fine but don't expect to be debated about it! 

[Kitchandro]

1 minute ago, Gamble92 said:

I could never just give up on us. I said it in the BSLB Podcast thread that as much as I enjoy those lads speaking, I find their attitude of not celebrating goals or not watching games bizarre. Not least because they have to talk about us.

 

But it's a debate that's gone across the whole fanbase. Seems to be split between those who think the best way is to abandon us Vs those who relentlessly turn up and clap the team off. 

 

I couldn't do either. Not a chance I ever give up on Leicester but there's no ****ing way I'm stood there like a brain dead moron clapping them off. It's not showing support. It's enabling our demise. 

 

We are very absolute now in general. Something that's stretches beyond supporting Leicester. It's just a very strange way to live your life. 

I agree with you in general but I don’t see ‘giving up’ as an ‘absolute’. It’s a rational decision to stop doing something if it’s no fun, costs you money and no longer has any deeper meaning. I think it’s strange to do something purely out of habit. I could go if it was convenient and I didn’t feel ripped off, insulted, unwanted, controlled, bored, emotionally detached from the players etc. I still obviously care somewhat because I’m on here but I don’t miss going.
 

I’d love football to feel like a community expression of local pride and raw tribalism but the fact is that it’s just a corporate show now. LCFC is particularly bad version with the generic stadium, sellout KPFC kits, unfashionable reputation that attracts middle classes rather than working classes who are more likely to create an atmosphere. A lot of it has been intentional gentrification by the way.

 

A phoenix club owned by the fans would have meaning, but if you see the current club for what it is, and not what you want it to be, it’s not a dramatic decision to just remove yourself (physically at least)  from something that drains the life out of you.

[Corky]

What happens if we all back the lads, applaud them, no negativity and we still lose? Or is this plan guaranteed to win matches?

[Kitchandro]

4 minutes ago, Filbertblue said:

I read what he has to say and I don't agree. He later said he doesn't go doesn't to matches and he doesn't buy buy the merchandise. OK that's up to him. I have no problem with that. Then later on  he says oh take no notice of me I am just a 38 year old having a moan. Now admit to being a happy clapper but I am not passive. If anyone slags of this great club I push back. Anyone slags off Top or King Power I push back also. No other owner has won more than our current owners. No other owner has donated more to local hospitals than our current owners. If people want to slag off that's fine but don't expect to be debated about it! 

Well, this is why people might suggest this attitude is part of the problem. The club and the owners are not the same thing, defending the owners is not defending the club.

 

I can’t really be bothered to debate the logic here because it’s been done so many times on other threads that you must already know the arguments, but needless to say not everyone believes Top or King Power deserve a load of credit right now. Some of us are adamant the club needs to  improve in every aspect (by the club being sold, or otherwise), so the whole debate of this thread is how the fans can help achieve that.

[Lineker's Left Foot]

17 minutes ago, Spanner73 said:

A couple of bad seasons has nothing to do with the outstanding neglect and incompetence shown over many years at this football club by its owner. That is what this is about ! 
 

 

 

Agree completely. @Filbertblue is entitled to his opinion but it’s the opposite of mine.  His/her view is generally more akin to those found on the FB site Leicester Undivided.

[Eskay]

Maybe we are the problem? 

 

Our goal/aim as a collective set of fans is to get back the top flight asap. 

 

The board/TopKin might have decided to spend a few years at a lower level and going again? Stripping the be assets down, resetting and when our crop of youngsters get a little older ..we invest and go again for promotion? 

 

If they communicated we would of course understand this and be able to get our head around things accordingly. But it's just a thought I have had today given the talk around BEK and Abdul leaving. If they both go we clearly are not even attempting to get promoted! 

[Happy Fox]

2 minutes ago, Eskay said:

Maybe we are the problem? 

 

Our goal/aim as a collective set of fans is to get back the top flight asap. 

 

The board/TopKin might have decided to spend a few years at a lower level and going again? Stripping the be assets down, resetting and when our crop of youngsters get a little older ..we invest and go again for promotion? 

 

If they communicated we would of course understand this and be able to get our head around things accordingly. But it's just a thought I have had today given the talk around BEK and Abdul leaving. If they both go we clearly are not even attempting to get promoted! 

 

Seems to be very contradictory, as Marti mentioned the target this season is promotion which leaves me to believe they are asset stripping so can sell the club?

[Filbertblue]

34 minutes ago, Spanner73 said:

A couple of bad seasons has nothing to do with the outstanding neglect and incompetence shown over many years at this football club by its owner. That is what this is about ! 
 

 

 

You call it incompetence. I call it being a victim of a global economic crisis coupled with a pandemic that brought our parent company (whose core business is not football but the tourist trade) to it's knees. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

6 minutes ago, Filbertblue said:

You call it incompetence. I call it being a victim of a global economic crisis coupled with a pandemic that brought our parent company (whose core business is not football but the tourist trade) to it's knees. 

So Covid made us sign Vestegaard, Soumare, Daka, Kristianson on 5 year deals did it?

 

 

[Corky]

I don't believe people go with the intention of being negative. We want the team to win otherwise we would boo when we score. But we don't exist in a moment. Previous plays a part- it is why Jamie Vardy got more backing than his performances deserved and why Soumare will get more grief.

 

Fans cheer Monga onto the pitch. There is anticipation when Fatawu gets the ball. There are also groans when Soumare ambles around or Skipp just exists. Fans aren't robots, we cannot just shut out the absolute garbage served up in the past year and like every single player equally.

 

The players here generally have it pretty good. Other clubs would have much more serious reactions.

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

9 minutes ago, Filbertblue said:

You call it incompetence. I call it being a victim of a global economic crisis coupled with a pandemic that brought our parent company (whose core business is not football but the tourist trade) to it's knees. 

Please educate yourself. Ignorance like this is what lets them get away with what they've done.

 

For the avoidance of any doubt, "Covid" does not give them a free pass for almost half a decade of financial incompetence. 

[Corky]

12 minutes ago, Filbertblue said:

You call it incompetence. I call it being a victim of a global economic crisis coupled with a pandemic that brought our parent company (whose core business is not football but the tourist trade) to it's knees. 

So why aren't they selling it, then?

[ealingfox]

11 minutes ago, Filbertblue said:

You call it incompetence. I call it being a victim of a global economic crisis coupled with a pandemic that brought our parent company (whose core business is not football but the tourist trade) to it's knees. 

 

We were clearly already in trouble with regards to the rules before Covid happened. Hence only signing Ryan Bennett in January 2020 when the slightest bit of ambition probably gets us into the Champions League.

[Eskay]

19 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Seems to be very contradictory, as Marti mentioned the target this season is promotion which leaves me to believe they are asset stripping so can sell the club?

They are currently hiring for a new commercial director. In the job advert they are boasting about having a squad worth in excess of £200m and an ambitious set of plans and ownership. 

Obviously they have to make the job sound attractive but it didn't give me the vibe they are going anywhere soon. 

[Happy Fox]

Just now, Eskay said:

They are currently hiring for a new commercial director. In the job advert they are boasting about having a squad worth in excess of £200m and an ambitious set of plans and ownership. 

Obviously they have to make the job sound attractive but it didn't give me the vibe they are going anywhere soon. 

 

It's a load of spin imo, get these charlatans gone.

[The Year Of The Fox]

2 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

We were clearly already in trouble with regards to the rules before Covid happened. Hence only signing Ryan Bennett in January 2020 when the slightest bit of ambition probably gets us into the Champions League.

Forgot about him

 

Great player 

[ealingfox]

31 minutes ago, Eskay said:

Maybe we are the problem? 

 

Our goal/aim as a collective set of fans is to get back the top flight asap. 

 

The board/TopKin might have decided to spend a few years at a lower level and going again? Stripping the be assets down, resetting and when our crop of youngsters get a little older ..we invest and go again for promotion? 

 

If they communicated we would of course understand this and be able to get our head around things accordingly. But it's just a thought I have had today given the talk around BEK and Abdul leaving. If they both go we clearly are not even attempting to get promoted! 

 

If they were doing this you'd hope they'd have just paid off all the shitheads so they'd leave and accepted whatever points deduction this season.

[Samilktray]

1 hour ago, Filbertblue said:

The original poster of this thread doesn't go to the games anymore . He said he doesn't buy the merchandise. He wants to topple Top. He couldn't topple a domino. He's having a  go at rest of us because we don't do the same as him! Therefore he is wishing ill on our club. I get annoyed by people like that. 

This line has really made me laugh hahaha

[LCFCJohn]

2 hours ago, Filbertblue said:

I read what he has to say and I don't agree. He later said he doesn't go doesn't to matches and he doesn't buy buy the merchandise. OK that's up to him. I have no problem with that. Then later on  he says oh take no notice of me I am just a 38 year old having a moan. Now admit to being a happy clapper but I am not passive. If anyone slags of this great club I push back. Anyone slags off Top or King Power I push back also. No other owner has won more than our current owners. No other owner has donated more to local hospitals than our current owners. If people want to slag off that's fine but don't expect to be debated about it! 

When is enough enough for you then? When do you judge on the present and not give a lifetime free pass on the past? We laugh at Forest for harping on about the past but this attitude is essentially the same thing. 

[smudgerfox]

2 hours ago, Eskay said:

Maybe we are the problem? 

 

Our goal/aim as a collective set of fans is to get back the top flight asap. 

 

The board/TopKin might have decided to spend a few years at a lower level and going again? Stripping the be assets down, resetting and when our crop of youngsters get a little older ..we invest and go again for promotion? 

 

If they communicated we would of course understand this and be able to get our head around things accordingly. But it's just a thought I have had today given the talk around BEK and Abdul leaving. If they both go we clearly are not even attempting to get promoted! 

Of course it’s not us.

We have a driven straight into the financial trap PSR set for clubs like ours and we can’t get out.

We can spend as though we are a de facto Prem club, in which case we’ll fall foul of EFL PSR. Or we can sell anyone who anyone else wants to raise money and languish in EFL with a sub prime team. And if by any chance we get promoted, we’ll come straight back down again and start again.

The club failed to grasp the significance of PSR and act upon it and now we are royally stuffed. And that’s a footballing scenario that isn’t particularly  attractive to watch….

[CosbehFox]

Woukd like to remind anyone LCFC as a business over the COVID period received some of the highest revenues it’s ever done. It was spent poorly on a rocketing high wage bill and failure to sell players (unlike others did). 
 

That King Power as a business struggled over that period doesn’t really have a relationship with LCFC making a **** ton load of money in that period