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37 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

Two things .... 50 years for me is not arbitrary figure it's a fact .... secondly  ups / downs / highs / lows are part of a supporters life ... what I will never accept is lack of passion from the " good years" fans who sit there quietly and accept what's put in front of them ... the club may have Tops name above the door but all clubs belong to the fans and they have every right to voice their opinions.... if you take my money ... you also take my criticism when things are bad .... the current state of the club is not a blip ... it is through bad management and bad decisions been festering for a few years 

I agree with this take. 
 

I thought you were implying that people who criticise the running of the club are 2016 onwards which would be a nonsense take but one I have seen others say. 
 

The reference to 50 years being an arbitrary figure. It seems like a lot of those who defend the running of the club all say they have supported for 50 years, to the point it seems that it is in many cases, made up to seem more relevant. That wasn’t specifically aimed at you. But it is true that to have experienced the highest of highs and lowest of lows, you only have to have supported this club for 25 years. 
 

But as you say, it is not about the highs and lows but how you get there and that is what is unacceptable. 

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4 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I agree with this take. 
 

I thought you were implying that people who criticise the running of the club are 2016 onwards which would be a nonsense take but one I have seen others say. 
 

The reference to 50 years being an arbitrary figure. It seems like a lot of those who defend the running of the club all say they have supported for 50 years, to the point it seems that it is in many cases, made up to seem more relevant. That wasn’t specifically aimed at you. But it is true that to have experienced the highest of highs and lowest of lows, you only have to have supported this club for 25 years. 
 

But as you say, it is not about the highs and lows but how you get there and that is what is unacceptable. 

I wouldnt be critical of a fan of ours who supported us for 50 days.

 

If they opposed Top and KPFCs handling of things more power to them

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Posted
25 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Does anyone want to do me a list of decisions that Vichai and Top made themselves that they know were a big reason we had the success we did? 

Think its less about individual decisions and more that one had genuine business acumen, genuine heart, genuine passion for people, made genuine connections, had genuine thoughts etc while the other is a spoilt nepo baby that's never had an ounce of individual success. Thai Trump. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Their money didn’t even get us into the Premier League. Nigel Pearson was the biggest factor and without him we wouldn’t have got promoted. King Power threw money around in the early days (especially under Sven) which didn’t work. It wasn’t until Pearson came back, and sorted the mess out, that we turned into a good side again. We even had to pay a fine when we got promoted lol  If anyone had a dream it was Pearson and I will die on that hill.

2026 Foxestalk off to a flyer. 

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6 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Their money didn’t even get us into the Premier League. Nigel Pearson was the biggest factor and without him we wouldn’t have got promoted. King Power threw money around in the early days (especially under Sven) which didn’t work. It wasn’t until Pearson came back, and sorted the mess out, that we turned into a good side again. We even had to pay a fine when we got promoted lol  If anyone had a dream it was Pearson and I will die on that hill.

I was being generous. They almost completely crippled us doing it the way they were doing until Pearson.

 

I keep hearing how well Vichai was running things but I think a lot of revision goes on there too. 

 

You can't say the Premier League win was the greatest win ever because the club spent next to nothing and then put everything down to them. Think the whole time they've been here hasn't been much different. Just had a lot more luck then. 

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There's no way a proper football fan, leicester fan, turns up to this game. Anyone that does just likes getting out the house and is following a routine from their childhood.

 

A proper leicester fan wants change and will do their best to affect it

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Posted
7 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

Does anyone want to do me a list of decisions that Vichai and Top made themselves that they know were a big reason we had the success we did? 

1. Brought Nigel back.

 

The end….

 

In seriousness, off the pitch Vichai was much more charitable and better for the community.

 

It feels weird not putting Ranieri as a good decision but I feel most people felt that was a fluke and not through good judgement, if we are looking for decision made that were strategically made.

 

I would say Puel as well, and the staff he had like Macia. He got a lot of stick but he stabilised us after the title aftermath and set us on the road to doing well again before Rodgers, Aiyawatt and Rudkin destroyed it all.

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5 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Their money didn’t even get us into the Premier League. Nigel Pearson was the biggest factor and without him we wouldn’t have got promoted. King Power threw money around in the early days (especially under Sven) which didn’t work. It wasn’t until Pearson came back, and sorted the mess out, that we turned into a good side again. We even had to pay a fine when we got promoted lol  If anyone had a dream it was Pearson and I will die on that hill.

A good hill to be on :appl:

 

Our promotion in 2014 was tarred (in the wider footballing world) with accusations of financially cheating for want of a better way of saying it. But I have always felt that was unfair as Pearson had got rid of a lot of the bigger earners (Beckford, Danns, Mills etc) and the promotion squad was much more cheaply put together.  
 

If there’s something we know about Leicester City as this point, it’s that when we spend a shit load, it goes wrong. We never actually benefit from it or breaking financial rules like we are in the shit now. Our successes have come when we have spent little and spent smartly. Both MON’s era and the one left by Pearson were much more about culture which is why we are in such a hole now as that has been chipped away at and nothing remains.

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Posted
5 hours ago, BrilliantFox said:

  

Lest we forget Aiyawatt and his cronies also paraded with the Championship trophy in 2024.

 

Not only was it embarassing because its a 2nd-rate trophy and a disgrace that we had to be in that position in the first place.

 

But also, why are you inviting random Thai tiktok influencers on the pitch that have no connection to the club or its fans?

 

3 hours ago, Sly said:

This irritated me far more than it should have done.

 

It felt like celebrating failure.

He should have been nowhere near it.

 

I have to say, I agree with @The Year Of The Fox on nearly everything but I saw you were getting into a debate about the 2024 Championship win shouldn’t have been celebrated at all. I disagree with that as there were many who were not involved in the decline (Maresca and his staff and a number of players) as well as younger fans who might not have been supporting long. So it was still to be celebrated as it was also a record for the second tier titles won.

 

But, it should have been the manger, his staff and players and families and Aiyawatt who was responsible for the relegation shouldn’t have been anywhere near it, let alone bringing all the hangers on. 

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49 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

 

He should have been nowhere near it.

 

I have to say, I agree with @The Year Of The Fox on nearly everything but I saw you were getting into a debate about the 2024 Championship win shouldn’t have been celebrated at all. I disagree with that as there were many who were not involved in the decline (Maresca and his staff and a number of players) as well as younger fans who might not have been supporting long. So it was still to be celebrated as it was also a record for the second tier titles won.

 

But, it should have been the manger, his staff and players and families and Aiyawatt who was responsible for the relegation shouldn’t have been anywhere near it, let alone bringing all the hangers on. 

Yeah, for clarity though I was meaning more about the fans shouldn’t have been celebrating when I said ‘we’

 

Like I said so many times before- we had blood on our hands as a fan base for doing FA about Rodgers until it was far too late. Even by the time he left, it was probably only 60/40 in favour of him leaving. 

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I dont agree about the fans shouldn’t have celebrated winning the championship 2 years ago. For some, young fans that might have been 1st success they saw. The night away in Preston, my son loved it. Some fans never see there clubs win anything at all so you should celebrate in my opinion. Not sure it needed the parade and all that though.

 

Though what it do is papered over some massive cracks for 12 months. They didn’t learn and made more bad decisions. It should’ve been a wake up call but it wasn’t, which makes me feel the biggest issue is Top doesn’t care or he does but had much bigger issues that us.

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1 minute ago, teblin said:

I dont agree about the fans shouldn’t have celebrated winning the championship 2 years ago. For some, young fans that might have been 1st success they saw. The night away in Preston, my son loved it. Some fans never see there clubs win anything at all so you should celebrate in my opinion. Not sure it needed the parade and all that though.

 

Though what it do is papered over some massive cracks for 12 months. They didn’t learn and made more bad decisions. It should’ve been a wake up call but it wasn’t, which makes me feel the biggest issue is Top doesn’t care or he does but had much bigger issues that us.

Yeah. It probably sounds like I’m changing my tune here, but could probably find a post to back myself if I searched hard enough- I also remember saying ‘if you’re a fan older than 25 it shouldn’t be celebrated’ for the reasons you say which I agree with

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17 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Yeah. It probably sounds like I’m changing my tune here, but could probably find a post to back myself if I searched hard enough- I also remember saying ‘if you’re a fan older than 25 it shouldn’t be celebrated’ for the reasons you say which I agree with

Yes, for me, it was the bus full of random people that was just wrong.

 

I reflect now and wonder if he even paid for them to attend!

Posted
5 hours ago, filbertway said:

There's no way a proper football fan, leicester fan, turns up to this game. Anyone that does just likes getting out the house and is following a routine from their childhood.

 

A proper leicester fan wants change and will do their best to affect it

It will show how many are part of the KP cult following

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Posted
8 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Their money didn’t even get us into the Premier League. Nigel Pearson was the biggest factor and without him we wouldn’t have got promoted. King Power threw money around in the early days (especially under Sven) which didn’t work. It wasn’t until Pearson came back, and sorted the mess out, that we turned into a good side again. We even had to pay a fine when we got promoted lol  If anyone had a dream it was Pearson and I will die on that hill.

By your logic the mess we are in cannot be attributed to the owners. 

Because it's down to the managers and backroom staff.

 

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6 hours ago, filbertway said:

There's no way a proper football fan, leicester fan, turns up to this game. Anyone that does just likes getting out the house and is following a routine from their childhood.

 

A proper leicester fan wants change and will do their best to affect it

Anyone going to this match is as bad as any other part of the club right now and can follow KP out the door.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Anyone going to this match is as bad as any other part of the club right now and can follow KP out the door.

See my last post please

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