Popular Post st albans fox Posted 8 February Popular Post Posted 8 February On 02/02/2026 at 19:41, JimJams said: I think it's worse to be honest. I wanted Lookman like most did, but given his best position was also filled by Barnes his signing wasn't anywhere near as essential as this would be. JJ is our best player, Lookman wasn't close. The drop off from JJ to whoever fills those shoes is vast compared to Ademolas absence. And this is where rudkin is a massive fail he had the opportunity to buy lookman for around. £15m and he should have taken it and sold barnes for £40m. That’s what clubs our size do to stay ahead of psr. They trade. Whether it was rudkin who wouldn’t accept that or top I have no idea. But we had opportunities to sell assets at a profit and we ignored continually them. apart from the odd one, most of the players who left for nothing could (and should) have been sold when they had several years left on their contracts. 5
Ashley Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: And this is where rudkin is a massive fail he had the opportunity to buy lookman for around. £15m and he should have taken it and sold barnes for £40m. That’s what clubs our size do to stay ahead of psr. They trade. Whether it was rudkin who wouldn’t accept that or top I have no idea. But we had opportunities to sell assets at a profit and we ignored continually them. apart from the odd one, most of the players who left for nothing could (and should) have been sold when they had several years left on their contracts. Add Gakpo and Madueke(sp?) In there too, I think we were offered both for something like £20m?
lcfc_forever Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: And this is where rudkin is a massive fail he had the opportunity to buy lookman for around. £15m and he should have taken it and sold barnes for £40m. That’s what clubs our size do to stay ahead of psr. They trade. Whether it was rudkin who wouldn’t accept that or top I have no idea. But we had opportunities to sell assets at a profit and we ignored continually them. apart from the odd one, most of the players who left for nothing could (and should) have been sold when they had several years left on their contracts. 6 minutes ago, Ashley said: Add Gakpo and Madueke(sp?) In there too, I think we were offered both for something like £20m? This role of Rodgers can't be underestimated. His success meant Rudkin delegated more control to him - if Rodgers had agreed these decisions, they would have happened. Shows how over his head Rudkin is, trusting Rodgers too much is the fundamental error that triggered the events we've seen and exacerbated the impact on finances from Covid.
st albans fox Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 6 minutes ago, Ashley said: Add Gakpo and Madueke(sp?) In there too, I think we were offered both for something like £20m? it’s so frustrating Who the hell was in charge of strategy? we didn’t have the commercial income to not be a trading club given where we were competing and contacts we were handing out
JimJams Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 1 hour ago, Ashley said: Add Gakpo and Madueke(sp?) In there too, I think we were offered both for something like £20m? Nah, we were interested in Madueke when his touted value was around £10mill, as soon as our interest was open the price kept escalating with PSV also hanging their hopes of European progress on him (CL quals) and unfortunately for us him picking up his best form right at that moment meaning the numbers just kept increasing. They saw selling him as missing out on CL football (which they ultimately did anyway) so his price kept going up to reflect that.
Ashley Posted 8 February Posted 8 February Just now, JimJams said: Nah, we were interested in Madueke when his touted value was around £10mill, as soon as our interest was open the price kept escalating with PSV also hanging their hopes of European progress on him (CL quals) and unfortunately for us him picking up his best form right at that moment meaning the numbers just kept increasing. They saw selling him as missing out on CL football (which they ultimately did anyway) so his price kept going up to reflect that. We were offered both...
RizLCFC Posted 9 February Posted 9 February Several premier league teams wanted him in January but we blocked an exit. Fighting to keep him beyond this season. 1 1
suffolk fox Posted 9 February Posted 9 February 13 hours ago, RizLCFC said: Several premier league teams wanted him in January but we blocked an exit. Fighting to keep him beyond this season. Simply not true. James is on loan to us his parent club would have had the say nothing to do with us. He signed a contract at his parent club to go to us on loan for the season. Same, situation as Ramsey. We loaned him for the season. Hence, we can't send him back to Burnley even though he is injured. Terms of the loan etc. 1
JimJams Posted 9 February Posted 9 February 12 minutes ago, suffolk fox said: Simply not true. James is on loan to us his parent club would have had the say nothing to do with us. He signed a contract at his parent club to go to us on loan for the season. Same, situation as Ramsey. We loaned him for the season. Hence, we can't send him back to Burnley even though he is injured. Terms of the loan etc. His parent club wouldn't have the say. They've loaned him for not only the season but with an option to buy. To recall a season long loan you generally have to pay a fee/fine and as we have the option on buying him he can't be sold to someone else unless we decide not to take up the option. That's the point in getting an option in the first place. 1
whoareyaaa Posted 9 February Posted 9 February (edited) If we get Gerrard he will sign up.. 2 birds n all that Don't think the board even have this much vision though unfortunatly Edited 9 February by whoareyaaa
Samilktray Posted 9 February Posted 9 February 39 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: If we get Gerrard he will sign up.. 2 birds n all that Don't think the board even have this much vision though unfortunatly Really struggling to figure out whether you really believe this as you’ve said similar a few times, or if you’re just on the wind up hahaha fair play either way though but it’s totally bonkers 1
whoareyaaa Posted 9 February Posted 9 February 1 minute ago, Samilktray said: Really struggling to figure out whether you really believe this as you’ve said similar a few times, or if you’re just on the wind up hahaha fair play either way though but it’s totally bonkers Bonkers but true
Buzzell Posted 9 February Posted 9 February As soon as we knew we had a very good player on our hands, we should have made the offer to make the deal permanent. You can tell he loves it here but there’s no doubt he should be playing Premier League football. No chance he signs now. 1
Aleksz Posted 10 February Posted 10 February Missed the boat on making some money out of him by not signing him in January. He turns us down in the summer and goes to one of the clubs queuing up for him without a shadow of doubt. 1
CrazyKopCorner Posted 10 February Posted 10 February I've not read through the thread but amazingly people seem to be indicating that we ****ed up our plan. I find that extremely difficult to believe. 1
JimJams Posted 10 February Posted 10 February 2 hours ago, Aleksz said: Missed the boat on making some money out of him by not signing him in January. He turns us down in the summer and goes to one of the clubs queuing up for him without a shadow of doubt. Nothing about the deal suggests that we'd need to make it permanent in January. And if we can't make it permanent in the Summer then we couldn't in January. I get the clubs in a shit state but theres no need for mental gymnastics to find fault in fallacy when you can just be down on the other various genuine shit going on.
Jazzy_Jeff Posted 12 February Posted 12 February If we have an option and other clubs come in for him, surely we sign him up in this seasons accounts (post end of June) and then sell him on. Alternatively, his parent club would have to pay us to break the option we have. Either way we either sign a good player or make money out of the deal.
moore_94 Posted 12 February Posted 12 February 45 minutes ago, Jazzy_Jeff said: If we have an option and other clubs come in for him, surely we sign him up in this seasons accounts (post end of June) and then sell him on. Alternatively, his parent club would have to pay us to break the option we have. Either way we either sign a good player or make money out of the deal. Can’t sell him in the same transfer window we buy him Could loan him out with an obligation to buy in the following summer though But I don’t think he will be coming here anyway 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 12 February Posted 12 February 5 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Can’t sell him in the same transfer window we buy him Could loan him out with an obligation to buy in the following summer though But I don’t think he will be coming here anyway Not sure on the ins and outs but isn't that what Besiktas just did with Abraham? 1
moore_94 Posted 12 February Posted 12 February 11 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: Not sure on the ins and outs but isn't that what Besiktas just did with Abraham? Oooo didn’t realise that was permanent Yeah its probably bollocks then Buy him and then sell for £20m!
PlymouthFox Posted 12 February Posted 12 February Even with the loan with option agreement we have, it still involves somehow finding £4m we don't have.
st albans fox Posted 12 February Posted 12 February 4 minutes ago, PlymouthFox said: Even with the loan with option agreement we have, it still involves somehow finding £4m we don't have. Is the option to buy before end June or in next years accounts ? However, given that the psr hit is less than a million, you’d hope we’d have allowed for that margin of error.
PlymouthFox Posted 12 February Posted 12 February 20 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Is the option to buy before end June or in next years accounts ? However, given that the psr hit is less than a million, you’d hope we’d have allowed for that margin of error. According to transfermarket website his loan contract expires at end of June, whereas the other 4 loans we have all expire at end of May. Not sure what that indicates ref which year accounts, but maybe it's a month later due to what you've said?
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