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Posted

Let’s see everyone’s top 10. 
 

who do we think will go the furthest? Whether with us or someone else. 
 

im looking forward to seeing some of the obscure 13 year olds being listed as number 1 lol

 

ill have a first stab:

 

1-Monga

2- Motsi

3- Evans 

4-Nelson 

5- Braybrooke 

6- Hutchinson

7- page 

8- alves

9- aluko 

9- joseph

10- otchere 

Posted (edited)

Monga

 

The rest are unlikely play above Championship level. Cry if you like but I think that's the reality.

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Monga

 

The rest are unlikely play above Championship level. Cry if you like but I think that's the reality.

Bit of a wild take there considering the likes of Page have looked good at championship level at 17 years old.

 

Would need a serious injury for him to not develop into at least a lower PL player.

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Posted

Tough.

 

I think there are 4 that will likely play at PL level:

  • Nelson
  • Page
  • Braybrooke 
  • Monga

I also think that Alves stands a chance, but the injuries worry me. Think you will see Brayebrooke get there at a later age.

 

I also think that Motsi and Hutchinson stand a chance, but thats from reputation mostly and i know very little about them. I like Aluko, but think he will probably be Championship level. Not convinced about Evans.

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Just now, honeybradger said:

Bit of a wild take there considering the likes of Page have looked good at championship level at 17 years old.

 

Would need a serious injury for him to not develop into at least a lower PL player.

I'm going off the basis that the following academy players in the last 15 years have forged a career in the premier league;

 

Chilwell

Barnes

KDH (jury out a bit but now performing well at Everton)

Schlupp

King (his best seasons were in the Championship)

 

Happy to be corrected. I know history isn't a future predictor but it's a good indicator. 

 

Posted

Braybrooke - do we really think? i know injury has hampered him but if he was going to develop into this star that has often been touted then it would have happened by now. Tommy G post above isn't as wild as it may first seem.

 

 

 

 

for me

 

Monga

Nelson

 

Page, to me, is still a little unknown

 

Posted (edited)

Good job we’re not touching the Prem for a while because if these guys become good Championship level players it’s a huge success. 
 

Nelson, Monga & Page are the three I’d willing to bet make it to the Prem whether they’d be a success or not is another matter 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I'm going off the basis that the following academy players in the last 15 years have forged a career in the premier league;

 

Chilwell

Barnes

KDH (jury out a bit but now performing well at Everton)

Schlupp

King (his best seasons were in the Championship)

 

Happy to be corrected. I know history isn't a future predictor but it's a good indicator. 

 

There is also Bassey who's playing in the Prem at the minute. 

 

I think the next 5 or 10 years will show if Seagrave do bring in/through the better players than we had previously. 

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2 minutes ago, SystonFox said:

Braybrooke - do we really think? i know injury has hampered him but if he was going to develop into this star that has often been touted then it would have happened by now. Tommy G post above isn't as wild as it may first seem.

 

 

 

 

for me

 

Monga

Nelson

 

Page, to me, is still a little unknown

 

I can see Braybrooke becoming a Championship level midfielder. I don’t think it’s that unrealistic of a prediction. Especially when you look at some of the crap in this league. 
 

Predicting what’ll happen to academy prospects is so difficult because there’s so many different factors. You have to consider some guys develop later as well. 
 

At the moment we have plenty of 16/17/18 year olds that look exciting but so hard to say

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1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

I'm going off the basis that the following academy players in the last 15 years have forged a career in the premier league;

 

Chilwell

Barnes

KDH (jury out a bit but now performing well at Everton)

Schlupp

King (his best seasons were in the Championship)

 

Happy to be corrected. I know history isn't a future predictor but it's a good indicator. 

 

Think the academy has proved pretty massively from the days of King and Schlupp. You are right that per academy class you can’t expect more than two or three but the listed players have a large spread of ages across 7ish years, I think from that 10 at least 6/7 make good championship/premier league careers-

Page, Aluko, Braybrooke, Nelson, Monga all look around the level needed for championship already (Aluko may be a stretch). Others will begin lower down and rise, for example Callum Elder starts a good amount for Derby who are a solid championship side, Johansson at Stoke, and we don’t consider them because they don’t hit their stride here and haven’t made an impact in the prem

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4 minutes ago, LCFCCKEANO said:

Think the academy has proved pretty massively from the days of King and Schlupp. You are right that per academy class you can’t expect more than two or three but the listed players have a large spread of ages across 7ish years, I think from that 10 at least 6/7 make good championship/premier league careers-

Page, Aluko, Braybrooke, Nelson, Monga all look around the level needed for championship already (Aluko may be a stretch). Others will begin lower down and rise, for example Callum Elder starts a good amount for Derby who are a solid championship side, Johansson at Stoke, and we don’t consider them because they don’t hit their stride here and haven’t made an impact in the prem

You might be right, I might be right, just my opinion. Braybrooke is a stretch given he's been performing well at the bottom of Lg2, he is completely unproven at Championship level. 

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Monga, Page and Nelson look to have it. Not saying the elite (🤮) clubs but like KDH, Barnes level.

 

Aluko looks promising but whether PL or a bit lower unsure.

 

The younger ones I haven’t seen enough of.

 

I don’t believe Braybrooke and Alves will but as we won’t either, could still forge good careers with us.

Posted
5 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said:

Any hype for Henry Cartwright? He turns very good on FM and that's good enough for me. 

I’ve watched a few Falkirk games and looks physical, decent ball carrier & passing range. Scored a great goal against Rangers. 
 

I like him but he just feels like someone that’ll be let go. 

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Darren Motsi - looks like a generational talent, like Monga did, he is taking the piss out of lads a lot older than he is…. Looks like he’s got everything in his game, just needs to grow a bit as he’s still very much a boy. 
 

Monga is another standout, but it comes with a caveat, players of his style and ability it needs proper guidance and management, otherwise it can go tits il very quickly, ad Many have been victim of. 
 

Page he does look like he’s got a lot in his locker to be a consistently excellent player, I think he’s got the ability to score goals and be a key player. He just needs a run of games under his belt. He and James breaking from midfield could be a real force in the future. 
 

Nelson looks very steady, I imagine him playing for a top club one day, he’s definitely got the potential to be and England international. 
 

Aluko - I think he’s will also turning a quality player, he’s athletic and he’s also a goal threat, he’s got a wicked right foot which he showcased a few times during his time with the academy. Again, needs have time. 
 

I think Evans also stands a chance of being an excellent player, he reminds me of Harvey Barnes, a powerful runner switch an eye to goal…. It’s possible this is why he’s not being given a run upfront, but we need to see him in the team at some point, especially if Fatawu does go. 


Braybrook is showing his potential again, I hope he continues to flourish and can come into the team next season. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Correction :whistle:

Why would I not wan't them to succeed? It will only help us as a club in raising cash and hopefully and more importantly players playing for the club they came through the academy at - I mean just look at the attachment fans have with King, Barnes and Schlupp. 

 

I think some people get really carried away too early, just being realistic. 

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23 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I'm going off the basis that the following academy players in the last 15 years have forged a career in the premier league;

 

Chilwell

Barnes

KDH (jury out a bit but now performing well at Everton)

Schlupp

King (his best seasons were in the Championship)

 

Happy to be corrected. I know history isn't a future predictor but it's a good indicator. 

 

Dewsbury Hall is a key player for Everton and performed for us before that in the PL and Europe. It's not debatable that he's a PL level player.

 

The level of talent that we are developing now is better than ever before. History is only relevant if nothing has changed but clearly our academy has gotten a lot better in recent years.

 

There's a reason this conversation about bringing through young players is happening now rather than 5 or 10 years ago, it's because they are good enough to warrant that conversation.

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18 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Darren Motsi - looks like a generational talent, like Monga did, he is taking the piss out of lads a lot older than he is…. Looks like he’s got everything in his game, just needs to grow a bit as he’s still very much a boy. 
 

Monga is another standout, but it comes with a caveat, players of his style and ability it needs proper guidance and management, otherwise it can go tits il very quickly, ad Many have been victim of. 
 

Page he does look like he’s got a lot in his locker to be a consistently excellent player, I think he’s got the ability to score goals and be a key player. He just needs a run of games under his belt. He and James breaking from midfield could be a real force in the future. 
 

Nelson looks very steady, I imagine him playing for a top club one day, he’s definitely got the potential to be and England international. 
 

Aluko - I think he’s will also turning a quality player, he’s athletic and he’s also a goal threat, he’s got a wicked right foot which he showcased a few times during his time with the academy. Again, needs have time. 
 

I think Evans also stands a chance of being an excellent player, he reminds me of Harvey Barnes, a powerful runner switch an eye to goal…. It’s possible this is why he’s not being given a run upfront, but we need to see him in the team at some point, especially if Fatawu does go. 


Braybrook is showing his potential again, I hope he continues to flourish and can come into the team next season. 

The Evan’s comparison to Barnes is exactly what I see as well. He might be left out at the moment as he still needs to develop his game and physicality. But that ability to finish the way he does will almost guarantee him a good career imo.

 

i actually think there’s a chance he has a better career than monga. Because monga has lots of tricks but we still aren’t sure about the end product and I’m not sure you can guarantee that ever gets developed. What Evan’s has, will never fade and I think could be an elite player one day. Barnes didn’t look close to this good at that age 

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17 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Why would I not wan't them to succeed? It will only help us as a club in raising cash and hopefully and more importantly players playing for the club they came through the academy at - I mean just look at the attachment fans have with King, Barnes and Schlupp. 

 

I think some people get really carried away too early, just being realistic. 

Tongue in cheek!

 

Barnes is a very very good player. He was underrated when here. King is more due to the longevity and winning all the 3 leagues with us. I don’t think anyone really overrated him in terms of ability. High end Championship player who played a part in the PL but wasn’t really a key player.

 

Chilwell, Barnes and KDH are better more recent examples.

 

But honestly, things are just so crap at the minute it’s the most positive thing we have going so I don’t begrudge people enjoying seeing them get chances. None of them will be playing for us in the PL anyway as I doubt we’ll be back there during their careers but hopefully they make an impact here and/or make us some decent profit.

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42 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I'm going off the basis that the following academy players in the last 15 years have forged a career in the premier league;

 

Chilwell

Barnes

KDH (jury out a bit but now performing well at Everton)

Schlupp

King (his best seasons were in the Championship)

 

Happy to be corrected. I know history isn't a future predictor but it's a good indicator. 

 

Ever heard of Calvin Bassey?

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