Gary Rowett

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, adam said:

May as well of kept Marti on. Same tactics and same useless twats playing each week. 

If we’d have kept that useless **** we would have be already relegated. I can not understand how anyone can advocate that useless ****er who is the reason we are this shit. 

[Fear Of The Fox]

6 minutes ago, Guesty said:

It's hard to manage this club when you don't know what you're going to get from this lot. They can look like a completely different team from one half to the next - let alone game to game. People calling him a fraud for picking the same players who won a few days ago doesn't really make sense.

 

There are problems like the recruitment, lack of height, lack of physicality, lack of fitness, and that the spine of the team is so weak. The main problem is these players are so mentally weak. They have nowhere to hide now. I guarantee you the players were living in a delusion that they were better than this - and it was all other people's fault (like managers). Now most of them know it's on them. They really are lower championship players who've been carried for their career - this is their level.

 

And just like when delusion meets reality, they can't cope. They wilt under the slightest pressure - and even worse - if someone makes a mistake like Nelson today, they treat it as an excuse to not even try anymore.

 

We have to stop blaming managers and letting these players off.

There isn't a single post here letting the players off. What are you talking about? The position is called "football manager" because you're managing players and games. Oh well, have you seen Rowett doing any of the above? 

[Parafox]

11 minutes ago, Guesty said:

It's hard to manage this club when you don't know what you're going to get from this lot. They can look like a completely different team from one half to the next - let alone game to game. People calling him a fraud for picking the same players who won a few days ago doesn't really make sense.

 

There are problems like the recruitment, lack of height, lack of physicality, lack of fitness, and that the spine of the team is so weak. The main problem is these players are so mentally weak. They have nowhere to hide now. I guarantee you the players were living in a delusion that they were better than this - and it was all other people's fault (like managers). Now most of them know it's on them. They really are lower championship players who've been carried for their career - this is their level.

 

And just like when delusion meets reality, they can't cope. They wilt under the slightest pressure - and even worse - if someone makes a mistake like Nelson today, they treat it as an excuse to not even try anymore.

 

We have to stop blaming managers and letting these players off.

For the most part, this makes sense. But I don't think we are "letting players off". Read the many, many topics on this forum criticising everyone but the tea lady. And I can imagine there's a post somewhere criticising her/him/non-binary/cat.

Edited 14 March by Parafox

[Foxin_Mad]

41 minutes ago, phoneticerror said:

I said this months ago when everyone was gunning for him. At the time, Marti was merely the current scapegoat. Sacking him and bringing in Gary just cost the club even more money and has solved precisely nothing.

 

37 minutes ago, Jonboy1999 said:

I said it at the time as well. Sacking Marti didn’t actually fix the real problem, it just gave everyone another person to blame. Gary Rowett has walked into the same mess with the same squad and the same issues above him. You can’t keep changing managers and expect miracles when the ownership and recruitment have been all over the place for years. Until that side of the club changes, it won’t matter who’s in the dugout.

No no no, sick of hearing this garbage 

 

That Marti fellow was a whole new level of absolute shit. He was the worst ****ing manager we have ever had, pathetic and clueless. He is the reason we are this bad, half a season of his utter wank coaching.

 

Rowett is 10 times the manager that ****ing fraudulent clown was and he’s not even that good. 
 

Marti was taking us down, his crap tactics passing it at the back, no shots on target, inability to do basic running. Same pathetic iterviews each week. Whatever you say about Rowett he’s had a few weeks, his interviews are correct and honest, they are a bit better but ultimately the damage has been done by employing that 3rd rate Shit **** Shituentes. 

Edited 14 March by Foxin_Mad

[phoneticerror]

Just now, Foxin_Mad said:

 

No no no, sick of hearing this garbage 

 

That Marti fellow was a whole new level of absolute shit. He was the worst ****ing manager we have ever had, pathetic and clueless. He is the reason we are this bad, half a season of his utter wank coaching.

 

Rowett is 10 times the manager that ****ing fraudulent clown was and he’s not even that good. 
 

Marti was taking us down, his crap tactics passing it at the back, no shots on target, inability to do basic running. Whatever you say about Rowett he’s had a few weeks, they are a bit better but ultimately the damage has been done by employing that 3rd rate Shit **** Shituentes. 

Then why are we 23rd in the table genius?

[Foxin_Mad]

Just now, phoneticerror said:

Then why are we 23rd in the table genius?

Because of your mate Marti genius, every single week under that clown we got slower, worse, more unfit, had less shots. He was taking down either way. The game he was here last we were played off the park by none other than Oxford United, yeah let’s keep him.

[phoneticerror]

Just now, Foxin_Mad said:

Because of your mate Marti genius, every single week under that clown we got slower, worse, more unfit, had less shots. He was taking down either way. The game he was here last we were played off the park by none other than Oxford United, yeah let’s keep him.

My mate 😂😂

[Foxin_Mad]

Just now, phoneticerror said:

My mate 😂😂

We all know the problems at the club are much bigger but Cifuentes was absolutely out of his depth, he should never have got the job to have been sacked

[teblin]

Should’ve made the subs earlier, though he kinda acknowledged that in his interview. Keeper is a massive problem.

[Guesty]

7 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

There isn't a single post here letting the players off. What are you talking about? The position is called "football manager" because you're managing players and games. Oh well, have you seen Rowett doing any of the above? 

Yes. We won the last game and looked a lot better defensively. The first game anyone had won with this squad for two months. That's managing football. Did you see how s**t this lot looked under King for every game. 

 

He basically puts out the same team as Tuesday and they turn to s**t. 

 

 

[VG Fox]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Can't support any manager who picks Ayew.

My thoughts exactly, it is totally braindead, Any forward thrust is lost the minute he gets the ball, by the time he's replaced we are chasing the game and 2 or 3 down

[funkyrobot]

The masterplan of not starting your best players and having some of those as subs has failed in its second game. Going forward he needs to start Lascelles and Winks. Ricardo despite his flaws is better than Hamza, Daka is better than Ayew. No idea about what he does at number 10 as Reidy is a ghost and Mukasa lacks urgency.

[Broof]

Feels like this tbh. Same players, same formation, same results. 

 

One day we'll have a manager that sees things aren't working at half time and makes changes. That'll be a rare treat. 

[cropstonfox]

33 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Unlikely in my lifetime, sadly.

You might be right

[HankMarvin]

10 minutes ago, VG Fox said:

My thoughts exactly, it is totally braindead, Any forward thrust is lost the minute he gets the ball, by the time he's replaced we are chasing the game and 2 or 3 down

Last time I checked Ayew wasn’t starting at home against Norwich and they looked just as shit 

[kingfox]

Been very much one step forward, two steps back.

 

“I need to start looking at players I can trust throughout, not just once or twice”. 
 

The problem is though, throughout the whole of this season, Jordan James is about the only one who has been consistently trustworthy. 
 

Shit recruitment has finally caught up with us, it’s very difficult to see how this bunch of players can be relied on to get us out of this mess.

 

When they give us a bit of hope, they back it up by letting us down.

[phoneticerror]

23 minutes ago, teblin said:

Should’ve made the subs earlier, though he kinda acknowledged that in his interview. Keeper is a massive problem.

Crap strikers, crap defence, crap keepers.

[Claudio Fannieri]

Not overly shocked or surprised, he speaks well and says the right things in the media but then picks Ayew as his starting striker and alienates most if not all of the exciting young talent, Page and Aluko have been dropped and Monga doesn’t even get a cameo. 
 

6 games and 6 points is hardly mind blowing stuff, truth is he is decent at setting up a team to nullify away from home but at home when we need to take the initiative in 2 out of the 3 games we have been honking. 
 

This squad on paper is easily good enough to be challenging for play offs as a minimum but the culture is on its arse and if you keep hiring mediocre managers then guess what standards drop, players lose heart and interest and results drop off a cliff. 
 

Cooper, Cifuentes and Rowett are all meh and woeful appointments for a club who 4/5 years ago were winning FA Cups and in European semi finals. 

[jim5000]

He’s shit

[Guest Jonboy1999]

41 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

 

No no no, sick of hearing this garbage 

 

That Marti fellow was a whole new level of absolute shit. He was the worst ****ing manager we have ever had, pathetic and clueless. He is the reason we are this bad, half a season of his utter wank coaching.

 

Rowett is 10 times the manager that ****ing fraudulent clown was and he’s not even that good. 
 

Marti was taking us down, his crap tactics passing it at the back, no shots on target, inability to do basic running. Same pathetic iterviews each week. Whatever you say about Rowett he’s had a few weeks, his interviews are correct and honest, they are a bit better but ultimately the damage has been done by employing that 3rd rate Shit **** Shituentes. 

Just to be clear, I’m not defending Marti at all — he was a bad manager and I don’t support him. The football under him was awful at times: slow, predictable, constantly playing out from the back with no end product and barely any shots on target. It clearly wasn’t working and results showed that.

But at the same time I think it’s far too easy to pin everything on one manager and pretend that’s the whole reason we’re in this mess. The bigger issue at this club has been the ownership and the decisions made above the manager for years now. Poor recruitment, constant changes in direction, different managers with completely different styles, and a squad that’s been built with no real long-term plan.

You can sack one manager and bring another in, but if the structure above them isn’t right then the same problems keep coming back. Rowett might well be a better fit and his interviews are more honest, but he’s also inherited a squad that’s been put together badly and a club that’s lacked clear direction for a long time.

So yes, Marti deserves criticism and the football under him wasn’t good enough. But the ownership and how the club has been run is the real reason we keep ending up in these situations.

[HankMarvin]

14 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

6 games and 6 points is hardly mind blowing stuff

Depends how you look at it, it’s 6 times the previous points gained of the same period.

Sometimes some context is needed and the realisation just how poor we have been 

Edited 14 March by HankMarvin

[dayday]

1 hour ago, teblin said:

Should’ve made the subs earlier, though he kinda acknowledged that in his interview. Keeper is a massive problem.

What did he say 

[Fear Of The Fox]

2 minutes ago, dayday said:

What did he say 

"I should have made the subs earlier but we were waiting for Ayew to walk back from the six yard box. We're glad he's safe back with us now". 

- Rowett 

[OwnGoal]

He’s shit. Keeps playing the same way as what got us where we are. Massively out his depth. 

[Corky]

Ayew should never be selected. That back four is horrible. A real lack of anything after 30 minutes.