Gary Rowett

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, Jonboy1999 said:

Just to be clear, I’m not defending Marti at all — he was a bad manager and I don’t support him. The football under him was awful at times: slow, predictable, constantly playing out from the back with no end product and barely any shots on target. It clearly wasn’t working and results showed that.

But at the same time I think it’s far too easy to pin everything on one manager and pretend that’s the whole reason we’re in this mess. The bigger issue at this club has been the ownership and the decisions made above the manager for years now. Poor recruitment, constant changes in direction, different managers with completely different styles, and a squad that’s been built with no real long-term plan.

You can sack one manager and bring another in, but if the structure above them isn’t right then the same problems keep coming back. Rowett might well be a better fit and his interviews are more honest, but he’s also inherited a squad that’s been put together badly and a club that’s lacked clear direction for a long time.

So yes, Marti deserves criticism and the football under him wasn’t good enough. But the ownership and how the club has been run is the real reason we keep ending up in these situations.

Well yes I largely agree, Cifuentes should never have got the job. There is a bigger issue at the club but keeping him was never really an option after losing to Oxford at home. 

[funkyrobot]

1 hour ago, Foxin_Mad said:

 

No no no, sick of hearing this garbage 

 

That Marti fellow was a whole new level of absolute shit. He was the worst ****ing manager we have ever had, pathetic and clueless. He is the reason we are this bad, half a season of his utter wank coaching.

 

Rowett is 10 times the manager that ****ing fraudulent clown was and he’s not even that good. 
 

Marti was taking us down, his crap tactics passing it at the back, no shots on target, inability to do basic running. Same pathetic iterviews each week. Whatever you say about Rowett he’s had a few weeks, his interviews are correct and honest, they are a bit better but ultimately the damage has been done by employing that 3rd rate Shit **** Shituentes. 

Rowett is averaging a point a match. That’s worse than Cifuentes. Whilst we have seen some positive signs under his leadership, today was one of the worst matches we have seen at the KP this season, if not the worst. We were playing a bang average and out of form opponent who out fought, out thought and outplayed us. Very few opportunities were created by Rowett’s team. We saw slow lethargic play, the worst defensive horror show of the season and substitutions made far too late. 

[Eskay]

He's now showing hints of the players being thrown under the bus and eluding to issues that were there before he came. 

 

Well I'm sorry mate...it's your choice to pick Awey, Mavididi, Okoli, Nelson and Hamza. 

[Foxin_Mad]

8 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Rowett is averaging a point a match. That’s worse than Cifuentes. Whilst we have seen some positive signs under his leadership, today was one of the worst matches we have seen at the KP this season, if not the worst. We were playing a bang average and out of form opponent who out fought, out thought and outplayed us. Very few opportunities were created by Rowett’s team. We saw slow lethargic play, the worst defensive horror show of the season and substitutions made far too late. 

I dunno that Oxford game was bad, really bad. Rowett has had 6 games cifuentes had half a season and the trend was getting worse hence why he went, this is a culmination of his utter shit coaching. It’s gonna take time to correct, something we don’t have. The defence has been equally bad under cifuentes, Shef Utd, QPR away, Sheffield Utd away. This group has stinkers in them, it’s not something that can be fixed, some of it is a seasons worth of Marti coaching ingrained. Rowett might not be the best coach or who I’d ideally want but he’s a million times cifuentes who only got the job because he mentioned Barcelona. He should never have managed this club and is wholly responsible. 

Edited 14 March by Foxin_Mad

[Chelmofox]

7 minutes ago, Eskay said:

He's now showing hints of the players being thrown under the bus and eluding to issues that were there before he came. 

 

Well I'm sorry mate...it's your choice to pick Awey, Mavididi, Okoli, Nelson and Hamza. 

I have a level of pragmatism when it comes to Mavididi (is working very hard), Nelson (Ive been harsh, but he is the better of the CB's, but struggling) and Hamza (Riccy has been terrible, and cant play every game).

 

Ayew and Okoli - real, real problems. If Lascelles isnt fit then he shouldnt be on the bench. If he cant play then we shouldn't have bought him. 

 

Ayew is the worst offender out of all of that, because deep down i can see that Okoli cares - he just isnt good enough. Ayew does not give a tiny sh*t about this - and how any manager cant see what the fans think of him, let alone see what he is doingm is beyond me.

 

Interestingly, i've not heard Rowett refer to Ayew once in a post match interview.

 

Edit - and the fact pretty much all youth are now black listed - massive red flag.

Edited 14 March by Chelmofox

[kingkasper]

Has anyone called Maresca, to see if he is interested yet?

[squidsworth]

4 hours ago, inckley fox said:

I was Sunday league and occasionally played CB. And, by the way, when I played CB I wasn't very good, and was always aware of the shortfalls - at CB or LB, my natural position - that meant I'd never be a professional, nor anywhere near.

 

But I see Nelson make some mistakes and can hear the echoes of bollockings I got when I was 16 or 17 for failing to deal with very, very similar situations. It's not only Ben, but I'm amazed to see so many of these errors - which would still be costly for park footballers - taking place. I know this happens from time to time at the bottom end of the FLC, or occasionally even the PL - they're only human, after all - but it's 2-3 times per game for some of these. Non-league level stuff, if you're kind.

 

It might well be the worst, and it's certainly the most despicable, Leicester side I've ever known. And I remember David Pleat who, to be fair, had one of the lowest wage bills in the second tier. These guys are astounding in their laziness (Ayew etc.), selfishness (Fatawu etc.), unprofessionalism (Nelson, for that first goal, and many others game-in game-out) and lack of guts or backbone.

 

If I were cherry-picking from relegated FLC clubs, I wouldn't go anywhere near any of these. James aside - but Fatawu very much included - I don't see top tier players in them.

 

And it's by far the laziest, least invested Leicester side I've ever known. I'm not a very hateful person as a rule, but I genuinely detest this team. I saw the emphasis switch, post-Pearson, from hard-working, honest individuals to people who lacked the same, to coin a Harry Bassett term, moral fibre. I always felt it'd end badly. But never did I envisage it ending this badly, and there being such a historical absence of that so-called moral fibre. Almost to a man, they're spineless gimps.

I couldn't agree more 👍

[squidsworth]

4 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

Is that not worse. I’d expect a shout at Sunday league. If you don’t get one form a professional keeper that’s usually because there’s danger. 

I'm not sure we can analyse that detail, did Ben tell you he didn't get a shout? None of the other defenders react in the same way. Do nothing and the ball is out for a throw in most probably. It's incredibly bad, panicky defending. If that what was okoli or Thomas we'd not here the last of it. He fooked up, simple as. And lost us the game. Simply cannot afford Sunday league defending right now! I don't think he'll be starting next week. 

[Claridge]

Don’t really care who, but must make at least 5 changes next match

[Sunbury Fox]

Rowett got away with selecting Ayew against Bristol City, even though he was totally ineffective and off the pace, as per. It's a huge red flag that he then decided to pick him again today. We were told before Rowett came that he liked forwards who press hard and have some pace. So why the hell is he picking Ayew?! He simply has to bin him off from the whole squad from now on. His very presence has a negative influence on the mood of the crowd as well as the team. 

Edited 14 March by Sunbury Fox

[BrilliantFox]

Yet again, I am vindicated. I always end up being right on this forum.

0.35 xG created against a bus stop in West London.

Rowett is another crap manager to add to the list of Rudkin's failures.

 

I called Rodgers out in 2020 before anyone on bottling UCL. Then the following few seasons getting knocked out in Europe by crappy Slavic teams.

I called the ownership out before anyone in 2021, despite the FA Cup win.

I mentioned from early the freezing out of Soyuncu was a disgrace.

I said Rodgers should have been sacked very early on and Emery should have been brought in.

I said Maresca is the right man when we were linked. I was also bullish on Fatawu and Hermansen when they were linked.

I was 100% Anti-Cooper, Anti-Ayew, Anti-DCR, Anti-Skipp in the summer of 2024, despite this forum deluding themselves that Cooper was a sensible hire.

I wasn't convinced by Cifuentes coming in, also said this team without Bilal El-Khannous won't function. He was the glue! 

 

When I make my points ahead of time, I get a bunch of people saying otherwise. So rather than mindless backing and acceptance, some of you should trust my instincts.

 

 

 

 

 

[grth2004]

9 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Yet again, I am vindicated. I always end up being right on this forum.

0.35 xG created against a bus stop in West London.

Rowett is another crap manager to add to the list of Rudkin's failures.

 

I called Rodgers out in 2020 before anyone on bottling UCL. Then the following few seasons getting knocked out in Europe by crappy Slavic teams.

I called the ownership out before anyone in 2021, despite the FA Cup win.

I mentioned from early the freezing out of Soyuncu was a disgrace.

I said Rodgers should have been sacked very early on and Emery should have been brought in.

I said Maresca is the right man when we were linked. I was also bullish on Fatawu and Hermansen when they were linked.

I was 100% Anti-Cooper, Anti-Ayew, Anti-DCR, Anti-Skipp in the summer of 2024, despite this forum deluding themselves that Cooper was a sensible hire.

I wasn't convinced by Cifuentes coming in, also said this team without Bilal El-Khannous won't function. He was the glue! 

 

When I make my points ahead of time, I get a bunch of people saying otherwise. So rather than mindless backing and acceptance, some of you should trust my instincts.

 

 

 

 

 

Mystic Meg I know it’s you 

 

[Blue.Fox84]

11 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Yet again, I am vindicated. I always end up being right on this forum.

0.35 xG created against a bus stop in West London.

Rowett is another crap manager to add to the list of Rudkin's failures.

 

I called Rodgers out in 2020 before anyone on bottling UCL. Then the following few seasons getting knocked out in Europe by crappy Slavic teams.

I called the ownership out before anyone in 2021, despite the FA Cup win.

I mentioned from early the freezing out of Soyuncu was a disgrace.

I said Rodgers should have been sacked very early on and Emery should have been brought in.

I said Maresca is the right man when we were linked. I was also bullish on Fatawu and Hermansen when they were linked.

I was 100% Anti-Cooper, Anti-Ayew, Anti-DCR, Anti-Skipp in the summer of 2024, despite this forum deluding themselves that Cooper was a sensible hire.

I wasn't convinced by Cifuentes coming in, also said this team without Bilal El-Khannous won't function. He was the glue! 

 

When I make my points ahead of time, I get a bunch of people saying otherwise. So rather than mindless backing and acceptance, some of you should trust my instincts.

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds an odd one, but I always felt the FA Cup win was a bit of a freak/written in the stars sort of moment. 
 

It felt like the end of a fairytale, a lot of the players probably knew their time was coming to an end at the club and with Vichai’s death it was the ultimate motivation too 

 

There was alot of signs during the season that things weren’t right on and off the pitch. Agree that a lot didnt see these then (still don’t now), back to back seasons throwing away champions league football was huge red flags for me

Edited 14 March by Blue.Fox84
Grammar

[Langston]

1 hour ago, BrilliantFox said:

Yet again, I am vindicated. I always end up being right on this forum.

0.35 xG created against a bus stop in West London.

Rowett is another crap manager to add to the list of Rudkin's failures.

 

I called Rodgers out in 2020 before anyone on bottling UCL. Then the following few seasons getting knocked out in Europe by crappy Slavic teams.

I called the ownership out before anyone in 2021, despite the FA Cup win.

I mentioned from early the freezing out of Soyuncu was a disgrace.

I said Rodgers should have been sacked very early on and Emery should have been brought in.

I said Maresca is the right man when we were linked. I was also bullish on Fatawu and Hermansen when they were linked.

I was 100% Anti-Cooper, Anti-Ayew, Anti-DCR, Anti-Skipp in the summer of 2024, despite this forum deluding themselves that Cooper was a sensible hire.

I wasn't convinced by Cifuentes coming in, also said this team without Bilal El-Khannous won't function. He was the glue! 

 

When I make my points ahead of time, I get a bunch of people saying otherwise. So rather than mindless backing and acceptance, some of you should trust my instincts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think you were a some sage lone voice in being anti Cooper, Ayew and Skipp..

[Headcase]

2 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

Rowett is averaging a point a match. That’s worse than Cifuentes. Whilst we have seen some positive signs under his leadership, today was one of the worst matches we have seen at the KP this season, if not the worst. We were playing a bang average and out of form opponent who out fought, out thought and outplayed us. Very few opportunities were created by Rowett’s team. We saw slow lethargic play, the worst defensive horror show of the season and substitutions made far too late. 

His substitutions were not late! They were bang on time .......every time 60mins thats the plan! 

 

Which shows he plans that before every game, and is either stubborn or inflexible and unable to react to how the game is being played out.

[Headcase]

1 hour ago, BrilliantFox said:

Yet again, I am vindicated. I always end up being right on this forum.

0.35 xG created against a bus stop in West London.

Rowett is another crap manager to add to the list of Rudkin's failures.

 

I called Rodgers out in 2020 before anyone on bottling UCL. Then the following few seasons getting knocked out in Europe by crappy Slavic teams.

I called the ownership out before anyone in 2021, despite the FA Cup win.

I mentioned from early the freezing out of Soyuncu was a disgrace.

I said Rodgers should have been sacked very early on and Emery should have been brought in.

I said Maresca is the right man when we were linked. I was also bullish on Fatawu and Hermansen when they were linked.

I was 100% Anti-Cooper, Anti-Ayew, Anti-DCR, Anti-Skipp in the summer of 2024, despite this forum deluding themselves that Cooper was a sensible hire.

I wasn't convinced by Cifuentes coming in, also said this team without Bilal El-Khannous won't function. He was the glue! 

 

When I make my points ahead of time, I get a bunch of people saying otherwise. So rather than mindless backing and acceptance, some of you should trust my instincts.

 

 

 

 

 

Do you fancy a job? .....i think one will be available in a few weeks when its mathematical 

[The Horse's Mouth]

1 hour ago, BrilliantFox said:

Yet again, I am vindicated. I always end up being right on this forum.

0.35 xG created against a bus stop in West London.

Rowett is another crap manager to add to the list of Rudkin's failures.

 

I called Rodgers out in 2020 before anyone on bottling UCL. Then the following few seasons getting knocked out in Europe by crappy Slavic teams.

I called the ownership out before anyone in 2021, despite the FA Cup win.

I mentioned from early the freezing out of Soyuncu was a disgrace.

I said Rodgers should have been sacked very early on and Emery should have been brought in.

I said Maresca is the right man when we were linked. I was also bullish on Fatawu and Hermansen when they were linked.

I was 100% Anti-Cooper, Anti-Ayew, Anti-DCR, Anti-Skipp in the summer of 2024, despite this forum deluding themselves that Cooper was a sensible hire.

I wasn't convinced by Cifuentes coming in, also said this team without Bilal El-Khannous won't function. He was the glue! 

 

When I make my points ahead of time, I get a bunch of people saying otherwise. So rather than mindless backing and acceptance, some of you should trust my instincts.

 

 

 

 

 

You joined in August of 2024, all these so called mystic Meg prediction you’ve had there’s no record of it? So well done? 

[CosbehFox]

I tell you if a player threatened physical violence against you, I’m sure you’d exclude him like Rodgers did with Soyuncu

[Sly]

17 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

I tell you if a player threatened physical violence against you, I’m sure you’d exclude him like Rodgers did with Soyuncu

Hold on, is this some sort of new news that I’ve previously missed? 

[Topman]

I would of took Nelson as soon as he had the Yellow, poor Yellow to give away due to own mistake 

[Dan]

He'll have mentally clocked out of this this time next month - happens to every manager. Isn't a coincidence.

[inckley fox]

1 hour ago, BrilliantFox said:

Yet again, I am vindicated. I always end up being right on this forum.

0.35 xG created against a bus stop in West London.

Rowett is another crap manager to add to the list of Rudkin's failures.

 

I called Rodgers out in 2020 before anyone on bottling UCL. Then the following few seasons getting knocked out in Europe by crappy Slavic teams.

I called the ownership out before anyone in 2021, despite the FA Cup win.

I mentioned from early the freezing out of Soyuncu was a disgrace.

I said Rodgers should have been sacked very early on and Emery should have been brought in.

I said Maresca is the right man when we were linked. I was also bullish on Fatawu and Hermansen when they were linked.

I was 100% Anti-Cooper, Anti-Ayew, Anti-DCR, Anti-Skipp in the summer of 2024, despite this forum deluding themselves that Cooper was a sensible hire.

I wasn't convinced by Cifuentes coming in, also said this team without Bilal El-Khannous won't function. He was the glue! 

 

When I make my points ahead of time, I get a bunch of people saying otherwise. So rather than mindless backing and acceptance, some of you should trust my instincts.

 

 

 

 

 

You weren't necessarily right on all that though.

 

Soyuncu being frozen out was understandable. He wanted to leave and the coaches felt he wasn't training well. When he played, he was poor.

 

I, among many others, argued that Rodgers should never have been appointed in the first place. So you weren't exactly a prophet on that score either. When he was, he shouldn't have been fired early on at all, he should have been fired in the summer/autumn of 2022.

 

El Khannous was the glue for this side? THIS side? That's no badge of honour.

 

Skipp was indeed a poor signing, for the pricetag at least, but El Khanouss will hardly soar above him in the annals of Leicester City lore. That side was relegated without the merest whimper, Bilal was mostly crap, and then squealed until he was allowed to bugger off. What a signing that was. At least we'll make a tidy profit though...

 

And Cooper? Cifuentes? As if they had anything to do with our demise. But you say Maresca, who built nothing and won the easiest promotion in history, was one of your picks. Where did that leave us? It was fantastic for Maresca, evidently. It didn't help Leicester City a great deal. Plenty of posters on here (though not you, clearly!) saw that one coming.

 

And there were people on here calling the ownership out a whole decade before you, if 2021 was your Road to Damascus moment. So I'm guessing either a large amount of cognac, or confirmation bias, has gone down in some of your comments.

 

I'm an absolute amateur at this 'being right' business. The posts are still here, 1000 pages back, where I said Kasper was sh*t, Vardy was a waste of money, Pearson should be fired, Ranieri was a lousy appointment.

 

All of it wrong. But I remember this and try to learn from it. And when I do get something right, which isn't too often, I don't exaggerate its importance and complain about getting no credit for it!

 

It'd be nice if everyone could separate their minds from their emotions for a bit. Whether in the depth of your soul you knew this was wrong, that was right - just like those who feel we should be loyal to the family, we should show Top some respect - perhaps we should let our heads rule our hearts for once. If we all park our personal convictions and allegiances to one side, and actually look soberly at what's happening, it's terrifying. That matters more than whether or not I was right about Danny Drinkwater being a bit crap in March 2012, or whether I'm annoyed that no-one lauded my foresight for saying we shouldn't appoint, I don't know, pretty much most of our managers over the past decade.

[teblin]

Gary, I know you won’t read this. But to some extent the fan have been behind you in your 1st set of games. But if you continue to play Jordan Ayew you will quickly lose that.

[Claudio Fannieri]

In my opinion this is the reality of the situation, Rowett knows this is and was only ever going to be a gig until the end of the season. A firefighter to come in and try to be a short term hero. But let’s be honest he doesn’t fit the profile to be a long term solution.

 

Rowett knows this is his opportunity and shop window to secure himself a managerial gig somewhere for next season. 
Hence why we seeing the exclusion of the likes of Page & Aluko, the continued lack of use of Monga from the bench. Rowett was gambling on getting enough senior pros on board to get the job done and it is somewhat backfiring. 
 

So now Rowett has realised that whilst still trying to maintain our Championship status he is also doing a bit of self preservation of his own, questioning who he can trust etc is the perfect narrative to deflect any little blame or accountability away from himself. As the season draws to its conclusion if we see many more results and performances like yesterday, I think this narrative will become louder and louder. 
 

Have a look where Rowett ends up next season, I can only see clubs such as Preston North End, maybe Blackburn if they go down, or mid table league one clubs showing an interest. 
 

In reality I don’t think he is the right fit for a big club with lofty ambitions, I think he is more suited to smaller clubs looking to fight and scrap to stay in a division. He is limited and this has shown in the two of the three  games where we have really struggled to dominate. 

[cityfanlee23]

Slept on it, and I just cannot accept the fact Rowett went with Ayew to start, and said he cannot justify starting Lacelles over either Okoli or Nelson, at the very least Nelson needed hooking at half time, he was rocky as hell and progressively getting worse. 
I can also understand Rowett saying that right now he needs to probably focus more on experience rather than just throwing the youth on, but we needed an injection of energy far sooner than he took to make it, and his constant refusal to make subs early is frustrating to see. 

We have improved, but the PPG is not good enough, and i'm concerned we are on the egde of freefall and seeing another RVN style run. 

I just can't get my head around Ayew and Lacelles decisions though, really concerning and makes me second guess GR massively, if he somehow keeps us up, I'm thinking maybe we look elsewhere. Hoping I'm wrong.