Gary Rowett

[CosbehFox]

3 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Shituentes was given a boost by having a reasonable start based on the work King did imo. As the months went on our record got worse and worse under him, he was a terrible manager l, probably the worst we have ever had in my opinion. 

Think we can dis spell that myth given King’s caretaker spell we looked as bad as we’ve been all season and the pre season he led hardly has us looking athletic at the moment 

[Dan]

8 hours ago, Corky said:

Our last six permanent and caretaker managers have managed 70 points from 77 league games with 8 clean sheets between them.

 

Spectacularly awful.

And people genuinely wonder why some moan. We've been a genuinely rubbish team for two years flat now.

[BrilliantFox]

16 hours ago, Corky said:

Our last six permanent and caretaker managers have managed 70 points from 77 league games with 8 clean sheets between them.

 

Spectacularly awful.

Since Fofana left, our defence has been terrible. Not replacing him has been one of our biggest mistakes.

In the 22/23 season, our midfield and attack were alright, it was our horrific defence, Ward and Rodgers that took us down.

[winteriscoming]

So far in 7 games he has 1 win, 4 draws and 2 defeats. 
If we continue on that trajectory he’ll maybe get 2 more wins if we’re lucky and 2 or 3 draws. 
Can’t see it being enough to stop up. 

[Collymore]

He needs to turn on the players and become a massive bad cop IMO. Managers have protected these players for years now and look where it's got us! They need a taste of reality and to be called out after each poor performance, lack of effort and individual mistake. 

 

Could have an even worse effect? Maybe. But I'm sick of this treading on eggshell way we've got. 

 

Call all the ***** out one by in the pressers!

Edited 22 March by Collymore

[lcfc_forever]

Easily could have, in fact should have been 3 wins out of 7 - the underlying stats are much better now than with Cifuentes, but he was far more lucky until towards the end of his time in charge.

 

The team is pressing more, winning more duels and blocks/clearances so the structure is more solid. This is more sustainable for us, and should lead to better outcomes. Cut out the bozo moments and we have the foundations to succeed. 

[Corky]

8 hours ago, Dan said:

And people genuinely wonder why some moan. We've been a genuinely rubbish team for two years flat now.

Rowett referenced it last week when discussing the reaction of the crowd, that we had seen it multiple times.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

2 hours ago, Collymore said:

He needs to turn on the players and become a massive bad cop IMO. Managers have protected these players for years now and look where it's got us! They need a taste of reality and to be called out after each poor performance, lack of effort and individual mistake. 

 

Could have an even worse effect? Maybe. But I'm sick of this treading on eggshell way we've got. 

 

Call all the ***** out one by in the pressers!

When have you ever seen this approach being successful or indeed, seen a manager keep their job after doing such a thing (thinking Conte at Spurs).

 

This sort of situation does not require a manager losing their head.

 

Calling players out publicly would provide zero benefit because ultimately as manager, you’re going to need to call upon 16 of them every game - and you see all of them every day in training.

 

Even if it was one or two players that you don’t think you will use - you can’t guarantee the reaction of other players in the group and you don’t want a situation where players are playing with the fear of making a mistake.

This is not to say that behind closed doors there will not be truths told to certain players about standards and performance levels - anyone who’s played at any decent level will know this goes on.

 

But that sort of stuff needs to stay within - an embarrassing public slagging match via the local press and clubs media makes very little sense.

 

[Collymore]

8 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

When have you ever seen this approach being successful or indeed, seen a manager keep their job after doing such a thing (thinking Conte at Spurs).

 

This sort of situation does not require a manager losing their head.

 

Calling players out publicly would provide zero benefit because ultimately as manager, you’re going to need to call upon 16 of them every game - and you see all of them every day in training.

 

Even if it was one or two players that you don’t think you will use - you can’t guarantee the reaction of other players in the group and you don’t want a situation where players are playing with the fear of making a mistake.

This is not to say that behind closed doors there will not be truths told to certain players about standards and performance levels - anyone who’s played at any decent level will know this goes on.

 

But that sort of stuff needs to stay within - an embarrassing public slagging match via the local press and clubs media makes very little sense.

 

Yeah but would make me feel better! 

[BrilliantFox]

3 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

So far in 7 games he has 1 win, 4 draws and 2 defeats. 

Nasty stat that, didn't even win his first game in charge either.

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

So far in 7 games he has 1 win, 4 draws and 2 defeats. 
If we continue on that trajectory he’ll maybe get 2 more wins if we’re lucky and 2 or 3 draws. 
Can’t see it being enough to stop up. 

How many games did we not have a permanent manager for before Rowett finally got the job? 

[winteriscoming]

1 minute ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

How many games did we not have a permanent manager for before Rowett finally got the job? 

I think it was 3 or 4. 
It was over 3 weeks until Rowett was appointed. 

[winteriscoming]

12 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

Nasty stat that, didn't even win his first game in charge either.

We look better under him. 
I know that’s not saying a lot. 
We will not convert the draws into wins.

 
 

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

I think it was 3 or 4. 
It was over 3 weeks until Rowett was appointed. 

Crucial

 

Wouldn’t be so much of an issue if it hadn’t taken 2 games to appoint Dean Smith too 

[BrilliantFox]

23 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

We look better under him. 
I know that’s not saying a lot. 
We will not convert the draws into wins.

 
 

We looked better under Dean Smith vs Rodgers too, but we need multiple wins in a row.

[winteriscoming]

3 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said:

We looked better under Dean Smith vs Rodgers too, but we need multiple wins in a row.

Have to win the 2 games over Easter against Preston and Sheffield Wednesday. 
I don’t think we will though. 
Can see it being 2 draws.  

[Parker Pen]

I keep going back over that in my head too! 
Charlton, Birmingham and Southampton twice. I reckon he would have got us 3 extra points plus he would have had a free hit in the cup.
 

Top and Crud didn’t learn from the Smith appointment.

[Mike Oxlong]

5 hours ago, Collymore said:

He needs to turn on the players and become a massive bad cop IMO. Managers have protected these players for years now and look where it's got us! They need a taste of reality and to be called out after each poor performance, lack of effort and individual mistake. 

 

Could have an even worse effect? Maybe. But I'm sick of this treading on eggshell way we've got. 

 

Call all the ***** out one by in the pressers!

Would be a bit dodgy 

[MattFox]

1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

Have to win the 2 games over Easter against Preston and Sheffield Wednesday. 
I don’t think we will though. 
Can see it being 2 draws.  

Reminds me of the Leeds and Everton games under Smith where we needed two wins but got two draws

[Stadt]

Have to start performing at home - we’re a bit like Spurs in that everybody knows they can get a result here.

 

4/7 games are at home. We just have to beat Preston & Swansea 

[Guppys Love Child]

7 hours ago, Collymore said:

He needs to turn on the players and become a massive bad cop IMO. Managers have protected these players for years now and look where it's got us! They need a taste of reality and to be called out after each poor performance, lack of effort and individual mistake. 

 

Could have an even worse effect? Maybe. But I'm sick of this treading on eggshell way we've got. 

 

Call all the ***** out one by in the pressers!

I and a lot of others share your frustration here.

 

The current crop of players collectively stink, both in attitude and applicaton on the pitch ( yes a few like JJ, and possibly Skip on occasions could be cut some levels of slack)  but publicly lambasting them IMO won't work, and increases the chances of these under performing cry babies spitting dummies out of prams etc.

 

Behind closed doors in private, Rowett has open season with what he can say and do and this is the correct arena to do such things. Likewise if Rowett wants to be critical of the team collectively in post match interviews calling out a performance or the standard "we could be better" doing x,y,z. then I'm fine with that. 

 

Most players deep down want to make the match day squad to massage their ego's regardless of their current form, others need exposure for national team selection or to gain a future move.

 

We all know who the under performers and liabilities are, who need and crave match day exposure for various reasons, so, for the good of the team and to give us a fighting chance Rowett should grow a pair, more importantly show some intelligence and desire to change things  because what others and he also has done so far just blatantly isn't working, so drop the worst of the under performers and liabilities and really change things up with a number of new faces, starving the culprits of the previously mentioned match day exposure.

 

It's a World Cup year and players are out of contract,  so jeopardising moves and national team selections would IMO work better then public shaming these selfish sod's.

[turtmcfly]

13 hours ago, BrilliantFox said:

Since Fofana left, our defence has been terrible. Not replacing him has been one of our biggest mistakes.

In the 22/23 season, our midfield and attack were alright, it was our horrific defence, Ward and Rodgers that took us down.

 

This 'Fofana, prince of football' meme is pretty irritating.

 

Lovely to watch with the ball at his feet but in terms of 'defending' (in a sense that means anything to me) he was distinctly average. 

 

[Fox92]

On 22/03/2026 at 11:14, winteriscoming said:

So far in 7 games he has 1 win, 4 draws and 2 defeats. 
If we continue on that trajectory he’ll maybe get 2 more wins if we’re lucky and 2 or 3 draws. 
Can’t see it being enough to stop up. 

 

On 22/03/2026 at 14:25, BrilliantFox said:

Nasty stat that, didn't even win his first game in charge either.

That's why stats are pointless in this context. He had been here about 2 days before his first game. In his 7 games we've played away at Ipswich, Middlesbrough and Watford. His first home game was against the most in form team this calendar year. 

 

The only result that is actually terrible is QPR.

 

We've also picked up 2 clean sheets in these 7 games.

 

I believe we will stay up. 

[ozvaldo]

On 22/03/2026 at 03:08, Dan said:

And people genuinely wonder why some moan. We've been a genuinely rubbish team for two years flat now.

Yeah but Top's done loads for the city and dishes out doughnuts now and then.  

[Foxin_Mad]

On 21/03/2026 at 23:09, CosbehFox said:

Think we can dis spell that myth given King’s caretaker spell we looked as bad as we’ve been all season and the pre season he led hardly has us looking athletic at the moment 

Fitness isn’t something you can improve overnight.

 

The biggest hilarity is that some people try to make a justification for keeping Shituentes on when he’s probably been one of these shitest managers we ever had. Not one player or one stat go better under that clown

Edited 23 March by Foxin_Mad