Protest Vs Preston 3rd April

[CosbehFox]

Re: Effect on the players.

 

The occasion when the chants cross a line of acceptability successfully powered the players to a comeback win at Norwich!

[ClaphamFox]

1 hour ago, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

Indeed. It was very obvious against QPR that the team weren't initially aware that a protest had taken place before the game, hence why they played brilliantly for the opening 20mins or so. But then there was a lengthy stoppage when Hayden got injured and during the break in play a note was passed around between our players informing them of the tragic news that a handful of people had protested against the owners outside before the game. After that their morale collapsed, QPR bossed the match and ended up comfortably winning.

Edited 1 April by ClaphamFox

[Dmitry]

1 hour ago, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

 

[PaulW]

1 minute ago, inckley fox said:

I think this begs three obvious questions: 'Why not?' 'What makes you think it affects morale?' And, as regards your last comment, 'What do you propose we do about it then?'

 

There are, as I see it, five possible futures for the club, all of which are to my mind equally feasible. In the first, we stay up and struggle on with KP for a few years - maybe next season is a little better, maybe a little worse, and maybe at some point things start to even out again - but it'll be tough. In the second, we stay up and they either find an unlikely buyer or go into administration in this division, and we get new owners.

 

Either of these could signal our revival, our stagnation or an ultimately irrelevant delay to our demise.

 

In the third scenario, we go down and go bust. There are no new buyers, and we restart in non-league football. In the fourth, it's much the same, but we're rescued at the death. And in the fifth we go down, KP keep us afloat for a period of time, and we gradually, painfully rebuild from wherever. Or don't.

 

When these are the likeliest scenarios, I have to wonder - if you're contenting yourself with a quiet 'tut-tut' - whether anything could ever make you see the need for a little more than a roll of the eyeballs.

 

But some of these polite eye-rollers are, in spite of what we may think, actually capable of outrage. Okay, Ginetta was more outraged by Pearson selling Sol Bamba a decade or so ago than by Top's catastrophic tenure, and most of the ire of the KP apologists has been directed at everyone who's said 'Hang on a minute, we might have to pipe up about this', but at least that's proof that they're capable of getting annoyed. 

 

And at some point I suspect you'll all need to get annoyed again, just instinctively, as a reaction to watching the whole thing fall apart once and for all. It might make more sense to speak up before that though and, given that this freefall began when everyone was still keeping their seats warm and nicely minding their Ps and Qs, I wouldn't worry too much about prompting our downfall if you do choose to do so.

 

Protest has sparked positive change at this club and others. In time, it may do the same again. We're getting towards the stage where it may be our best hope and, if we do lose on Friday, I doubt the real reason will be a smattering of placards on the terraces. Regardless of whether or not that's the narrative the Supporters Club and co are going to be spinning from now on.

 

5 minutes ago, inckley fox said:

Do you really need to ask if it affects the players morale!?  Do you really think that playing in a hostile atmosphere AT HOME helps them?  My post wasn't a plea for the status quo to stay as it is....but the most important thing is for the Club to stay in this division this season, and having the crowd  on their side can only help.  ( The clue is in the word 'supporters').  

1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

 

  

 

[Swarles Barkley]

if the players are affected by chants not aimed at them then I question how they have made it this far as professional footballers

[TheGoldenGod]

5 minutes ago, Swarles Barkley said:

if the players are affected by chants not aimed at them then I question how they have made it this far as professional footballers

Couldn't agree more. They surely aren't naive enough to think after 3-4 years of steady decline that fans are just going to be content sitting there accepting it. It comes with the territory and privilege of earning so much more than most of us could even imagine.

 

I've never really bought into the "two way street" argument. Fans pay and should be able to voice whatever they like within reason and players/managers should give the fans something to actually get behind.

[Raj]

The players are lucky to have such a docile set of fans at KP.

I mean FFS some even stay behind with their flasks and Filbert foxes applauding them after losing at home to QPR, Oxford, Charlton and fecking up a 3 goal lead to Saints.

 

This situation should be a cauldron of pure hate and vitriol.

 

 

[JonnyBoy]

2 hours ago, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

This argument is void though because the players have been crap all season, didn't we win like 1 in 6 at home before the protests started? the players couldn't give a sh*t about the fans, this is the problem - fans think the players genuinely care and almost support lcfc themselves? 

 

If players can't perform getting paid thousands week in week out because a group say some hurty words pre game then the games gone 

 

 

[dannythefox]

Many be at this? Fancy coming with my lad. Time to sell up! 

Edited 1 April by dannythefox

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, PaulW said:

Do you really need to ask if it affects the players morale!?  Do you really think that playing in a hostile atmosphere AT HOME helps them?  My post wasn't a plea for the status quo to stay as it is....but the most important thing is for the Club to stay in this division this season, and having the crowd  on their side can only help.  ( The clue is in the word 'supporters').  

genuine question, have you been to the games where protests have happened? because they're pre match and the atmosphere in the ground is not hostile until we're several goals behind. Not to mention that the protesters are usually the ones cheering us on during the game rather than sat in stony faced silence 

[1884HF]

4 hours ago, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

well what happened when we played sheffield Utd at home in November and were 3-0 down inside 30 mins - don't remember a protest on that day, or when we played Oxford, or when we played Charlton, or when we played blackburn, or when we played Watford do you want me to continue??

[TheGoldenGod]

3 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

This argument is void though because the players have been crap all season, didn't we win like 1 in 6 at home before the protests started? the players couldn't give a sh*t about the fans, this is the problem - fans think the players genuinely care and almost support lcfc themselves? 

 

If players can't perform getting paid thousands week in week out because a group say some hurty words pre game then the games gone 

 

 

Also there were no protests the last two PL relegation's....so what was the excuse for the players being utter tripe for it's entirety? As I and many have said on here, anyone against the protests can't offer a coherent argument because it can get picked apart so easily. There's no logic to try and protect the players over wanting actual change.

Edited 1 April by TheGoldenGod

[1884HF]

4 hours ago, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

tell you what mate the 'may of us' that you describe are part of the reason were in the mess as clapping these off week in week out and sitting in silence is guilty by association in my mind - if we had a serious fanbase like Everton or like we did in the 90s the board and players would be held accountable 

[dannythefox]

4 hours ago, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

Team morale? They’ve got none not had any since Vardy left. The players are to blame for the issue we’re in (on the pitch) couldn’t give a shite about any of it. Time to sell up and move on. 

[Dan]

The players have got off very lightly here for what they've served up. As light as basically anywhere.

[iancognito]

On 01/04/2026 at 09:37, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

Explain this. Genuinely. How does it affect morale? By the time the protests arrive at the ground the players are already in their pre-match warm ups and routines. Nothing is loud enough for them to hear, and the atmosphere in the ground at the last couple of protests has been fine. 

 

We went ahead Vs QPR so did we have a sudden memory lapse for 20mins, score then remember 'oh no, they hate the board, let's back off, not mark people and make shit decisions?

 

Your reasoning makes no sense. And again, there's no good time to protest.

[Ricey]

I would argue that the protests have taken the toxicity OUT of the stadium. Last year there were regular anti-Rudkin and sack the board chants, but at both protest matches I think people got it out of their systems pre-match and just went home once it inevitably turned to shit.

[1884HF]

Just now, Ricey said:

I would argue that the protests have taken the toxicity OUT of the stadium. Last year there were regular anti-Rudkin and sack the board chants, but at both protest matches I think people got it out of their systems pre-match and just went home once it inevitably turned to shit.

every game we've had protests inside the stadium there's been the most 'backing the lads' and vocal support for the team which seems to fall on deaf ears 

[BenTheFox]

On 01/04/2026 at 17:01, Dan said:

The players have got off very lightly here for what they've served up. As light as basically anywhere.

Honestly, these players should thank their lucky stars that they don't play for a club like Everton, Leeds, Newcastle or West Ham.

[Guppys Love Child]

On 01/04/2026 at 09:37, PaulW said:

Many of us don't agree with what you're doing, and believe that it adversly affects team morale on match days.  That's not the same as blindly supporting everything that the board do, (or don't do).

OK you don't agree. - that's fine.

I do have a few questions for you though. 

 

1. Do you agree that there is a big problem(s) at LCFC?

 

2 if Yes , Please describe your

interpretation of what the problem(s) is/are.

 

3 if yes, who/what has caused these problem(s)?

 

4 How would you fix it, what action would you personally take or more likely think others should take to rectify your interpretation of the problems?

 

5 Do you think clapping and praising a lacklustre team performance, where little or no effort has been put in, where no self pride is on show, where the team in general looks disinterested and can't be bothered and shows no real reaction to a 3 - 0 loss is a good thing, and warrants the clapping, if yes why?

[LCFCJohn]

9 hours ago, iancognito said:

Explain this. Genuinely. How does it affect morale? By the time the protests arrive at the ground the players are already in their pre-match warm ups and routines. Nothing is loud enough for them to hear, and the atmosphere in the ground at the last couple of protests has been fine. 

 

We went ahead Vs QPR so did we have a sudden memory lapse for 20mins, score then remember 'oh no, they hate the board, let's back off, not mark people and make shit decisions?

 

Your reasoning makes no sense. And again, there's no good time to protest.

Exactly. I put the same point about how the QPR game played out to one of the particularly toxic KP defenders on FB. This particular person is very abusive to those who don’t share the same view as they do. The reply was simply that they don’t have to explain themselves to me, i.e they are completely clueless and have no counter point to make.

 

I don’t agree that the protests affect the game given it is outside for the reasons you outline in your first paragraph. However, if it was a game where we had capitulated after 2 minutes, without agreeing with it, you could see how those determined to slam the protests could make the link. 
 

The QPR game, I made exactly that point. We started well and took the lead. What do these people think? Like you say, the players suddenly remembered and that was the reason they fell apart? No, they feel apart because they are weak and fragile mentally. Nothing to do with the protest.

Edited 3 April by LCFCJohn

[Spanner73]

I’m pretty sure our “passive happy clapper” fanbase won’t participate/protest and we’ll have a Happy Easter 

[ronnup]

The players dont give a shit.  Im fairly confident about that. The idea that it makes them sad enough to perform at a lower level is absolutely laughable 

[Pliskin]

I’ll be bitterly disappointed if anyone does take in a free beer…… empty all of the cans into the river! 

[Gravel]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I’ll be bitterly disappointed if anyone does take in a free beer…… empty all of the cans into the river! 

Good idea. Let's shit in our own pants too. That'll learn 'em!