Relationship between fans and owners/players

[hejammy]

Is the relationship between us fans and the players/owners/manager the worst it's ever been?

 

I can't think of a time it's been worse across all three parts? We have booed multiple players, the manager and the owner and we have no trust in any of them.

 

This is the lowest I've ever felt as a Leicester fan. It's embarrassing and it's disheartening. 

[HarryDee8]

It's the directors that are responsible for this. We should be looking to get promoted and they seem to have no idea who is the right manager for this level. 

 

 

[LCFCJohn]

Manager is understandable, fans were clear about not wanting him and they have done it anyway with the inevitable result.

 

Ownership the relationship is still too nice. Do what they have done with most other sets of supporters, they’d have had it far less easy.

 

The players generally the fans are getting behind with the odd exception of those who should have moved on already. Players should be used to the fact that fans will react to what they see on the pitch but the fact that the vast majority of the players are being backed and supported as we go into each game shows that the fans are keen for a positive relationship there. Moans and groans as another mistake due to the style being forced on them by the manager or some boos at the end of a game does not constitute a poor relationship between the fans and players as these are the types of reactions you see around grounds across the country every week so we are no different in that regard.

[hejammy]

7 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Manager is understandable, fans were clear about not wanting him and they have done it anyway with the inevitable result.

 

Ownership the relationship is still too nice. Do what they have done with most other sets of supporters, they’d have had it far less easy.

 

The players generally the fans are getting behind with the odd exception of those who should have moved on already. Players should be used to the fact that fans will react to what they see on the pitch but the fact that the vast majority of the players are being backed and supported as we go into each game shows that the fans are keen for a positive relationship there. Moans and groans as another mistake due to the style being forced on them by the manager or some boos at the end of a game does not constitute a poor relationship between the fans and players as these are the types of reactions you see around grounds across the country every week so we are no different in that regard.

There were boos for Faes more or less every time he touched the ball. Boos for BDCR and Thomas.

 

I'm not saying we shouldn't by the way, I'm just curious, has the relationship been so bad before? 

[purpleronnie]

3 minutes ago, hejammy said:

There were boos for Faes more or less every time he touched the ball. Boos for BDCR and Thomas.

 

I'm not saying we shouldn't by the way, I'm just curious, has the relationship been so bad before? 

We've never had a toxic fanbase, so a few boo's is probably as bad as it gets, so yes it probably is the worst.

[LCFCJohn]

1 minute ago, hejammy said:

There were boos for Faes more or less every time he touched the ball. Boos for BDCR and Thomas.

 

I'm not saying we shouldn't by the way, I'm just curious, has the relationship been so bad before? 

I don’t even agree that individuals should be booed by the way but I was just highlighting that it’s a case of separating the relationship with a couple of remaining players who have been a big part of our fall down the leagues and the squad collectively who it seems are quite popular, particularly the academy lads but the likes of Lundstram and Riis who when their transfer threads popped up, people were hardly over the moon but it does show that the fan base will give players a chance. 
 

I think it’s a case of sometimes fans (not saying you with this thread by the way), suggest some of these things are unique to us but they aren’t. 
 

Even other clubs have a toxic relationship with their owner like Blackburn (though I think Aiyawatt is much worse).

 

I’m sure other fanbases have individual payers who aren’t popular. 
 

The manager one is a bit more unique as for a divided fanbase, we were very much collectively against this appointment.

 

But it’s things like a round of boos at the end of a game when the whistle goes and we’ve been slapped 4-0 by Oxford or thrown away 2 points against a poor Barnsley side who had 10 men for 65 minutes. Some people suggest that boos at full time is a toxic fanbase but this happens round the grind every week was my point.

[LCFCJohn]

2 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

We've never had a toxic fanbase, so a few boo's is probably as bad as it gets, so yes it probably is the worst.

90’s were surely more toxic with owner protests and against O’Neil no? The fanbase is pretty tame and flaccid in comparison now.

[purpleronnie]

Just now, LCFCJohn said:

90’s were surely more toxic with owner protests and against O’Neil no? The fanbase is pretty tame and flaccid in comparison now.

But the question was concerning players/owners.

[LCFCJohn]

1 minute ago, purpleronnie said:

But the question was concerning players/owners.

Players ok. I should say by the way, I was too young to follow it then so my comment is based on what I have heard of the time. But I understand that the players in that era would still have been pretty well liked yes.

 

But it seems there were much bigger protests against the ownership then for much less? These lot have got away with murder.

[ClaphamFox]

3 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

90’s were surely more toxic with owner protests and against O’Neil no? The fanbase is pretty tame and flaccid in comparison now.

I was there for a lot of that and I can’t recall individual players being booed every time they touched the ball. This relentless targeting of certain players during a game is new, I think. 

[LCFCJohn]

1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

I was there for a lot of that and I can’t recall individual players being booed every time they touched the ball. This relentless targeting of certain players during a game is new, I think. 

Yeah see above, I was more referring to the ownership and even managers but wasn’t clear.

 

Edit - even when we were going well a few years back, there were players such as Perez and Chilwell who were scapegoats so I agree with the point about players. I was saying originally that collectively, I feel this squad this season is backed by the fanbase but there are remaining individuals such as Faes, Thomas, BDR who are just past fixing that relationship. 

Edited yesterday at 06:53 by LCFCJohn

[FoxesWalk]

The fanbase is toxic now, and imo effecting results. Anger is justified against the board/ownership, but gets misdirected against managers and players.

 

Mentality is a big deal in football, any sport, and it’s very likely most will be affected by the anger coming the way of the certain players/the manager imo. 

Edited yesterday at 06:54 by FoxesWalk

[SystonFox]

I didn’t think fans wee booing Wout yesterday? Think it was WOOOOOOTTTTT.

 

as for Wes Burns Jesus. 

[LCFCJohn]

3 minutes ago, FoxesWalk said:

The fanbase is toxic now, and imo effecting results. Anger is justified against the board/ownership, but gets misdirected against managers and players.

 

Mentality is a big deal in football, any sport, and it’s very likely most will be affected by the anger coming the way of the certain players/the manager imo. 

It comes back to the ownership though.

 

Think how divided this fanbase has been for the last few years and what is the one thing that united nearly everyone? Being vocal about not appointing Russell Martin. 
 

Come to this summer, relations with fans at a low, back to back relegations, 3 in 4 season. There’s 2 routes you can take.

 

1. Double down on everything that has proven to fail and has caused this, with the cherry on top of appointing the one guy who was pretty unanimously not wanted by the fanbase. 
 

2. Actually review what has gone wrong, listen to fans dissatisfaction and maybe, just maybe try and change the approach.

 

Even with all that, it’s not like fans spent all summer digging out Martin and being negative. There was the expected reaction to the appointment but then it calmed down and things were fairly positive and most people seemed willing to see how it would go.

 

I do think we need to give the fans a break. What we have been served up for the last number of years, the decline and the way it has happened. Would other clubs fans have reacted better? We know the answer to that.

[hejammy]

I just can't see this getting any better until the owners change. Their fixation on the style of play won't change, the disconnect between the owners and the fans is too great (despite that terrible run of interviews Top put out) they won't listen to us. Next managerial appointment will be of the same nature. The players have been bought in to fit this style and they'll throw their toys out of the pram if it changes. We're simply stuck in a rut until we get new owners. 

[coolhandfox]

Simply yes.

 

Years of mismanagement and lack of effort on the pitch.

 

Dreadful recruitment.

 

Should be a book idiots guide on how to ruin a football club.

[Claudio Fannieri]

2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Simply yes.

 

Years of mismanagement and lack of effort on the pitch.

 

Dreadful recruitment.

 

Should be a book idiots guide on how to ruin a football club.

And irresponsible approach to managing or not managing the clubs finances to the point we are at genuine risk of administration in the next few months. 

[murphy]

Whilst the powers that be keep repeating the same mistakes, whilst there continues to be zero accountability at the club and whilst incompetence reigns, it is  incumbent upon the fan base to hold the club to account themselves.

[Globalfox]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

I was there for a lot of that and I can’t recall individual players being booed every time they touched the ball. This relentless targeting of certain players during a game is new, I think. 

Agree but then players were not earning 20 times a week what an average fan does. Players then exerted effort, players then tried to entertain. Players then did not pose on social media. The world has changed and so have expectations. And it was not  as widespread but it did occur with certain players but it was not talked about endlessly because there was no social media.

[STEVIE B]

50 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

And irresponsible approach to managing or not managing the clubs finances to the point we are at genuine risk of administration in the next few months. 

It's incredible that nobody appears to be accountable for this. It's beyond ridiculous. 

[weusedtobegood]

Why do they keep appointing bad managers and funding poor players. 

[winteriscoming]

4 minutes ago, weusedtobegood said:

Why do they keep appointing bad managers and funding poor players. 

Mainly because we continue to have an obsession with Southampton and never look anywhere else. 
Sides look abroad for managers. 
We don’t. 
Can you imagine us going for someone like Hurzeler at Brighton? 
Not suggesting getting him now but we’d never consider someone like that. 
Our whole approach to appointing managers is backwards. Reactive rather than proactive. 
We could sack Martin today and then spend at least 3 weeks trying to find a replacement. 
Look at Bournemouth last season Iraola announced he was leaving before the end of season and within a week they’d announced his replacement. 
Not just premiership clubs doing it but also championship teams as well. 
Middlesbrough went and got Hellberg and Swansea who are flying atm got Matos. 
Last season we get rid of Cifuentes and hire 2 wins in 14 Gary fvcking Rowett. 
You couldn’t make it up. 
This summer we had an open goal to at the very least talk to Challinor but no we decided to go against a large majority of the fan base and hire Mr ego. 

[foxfanazer]

It should be a hell of a lot more toxic. Like most things with this club, it's all a bit half arsed 

[CruzNoir]

10 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

It should be a hell of a lot more toxic. Like most things with this club, it's all a bit half arsed 

Why?

 

what’s that going to bravely achieve?

 

the owners are selling the club but it’s not going to happen tomorrow 

 

we have to support this team before things are way way worse for the new owners

 

making things more toxic making the conditions for this new squad to deplete even further making the conditions for the new owners to pick up even worse…..is cutting our nose etc etc ain’t it surely??

 

The board is responsible but the entire club fan base included are in total self sabotage mode at the moment 

Edited 22 hours ago by CruzNoir

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, CruzNoir said:

Why?

 

what’s that going to bravely achieve?

 

the owners are selling the club but it’s not going to happen tomorrow 

 

we have to support this team before things are way way worse for the new owners

 

making things more toxic making the conditions for this new squad to deplete even further making the conditions for the new owners to pick up even worse…..is cutting our nose etc etc ain’t it surely??

 

The board is responsible but the entire club fan base include are in total self sabotage mode at the moment 

Sorry I meant to say it should've been a lot more toxic. Now as you say it's pointless and won't achieve anything. You are correct