Backlash?

[The People's Hero]

Zero confidence in the board.

Zero confidence in the (admittedly inconsequential) Foxes Trust.

Zero confidence all round.

The sooner this club changes hands the better.

It'll still be rotten to the fooking core though.

[Lineker's Left Foot]

I would struggle to go down at all - may not bother !! Would go to away games however, but I'm afraid I would vote with my feet !!!

[ithuriel]

i wonder if the present set up stipulated that kelly is not replaced straight after the takeover if it happens?

if so , maybe milan is deliberately missing the transfer window so he does not have to give kelly any money and will replace him at the end of the season?

it's the only real reason i can see milan dragging his feet , if it is him. if it is the board somehow delaying things , maybe they are hoping milan will get fed up and quit.

seems to me nobody on this foxestalk board at present really knows but something is not all that it seems.

[He's not bald]

Don't be childish of course they don't all agree, you take any group of people in any avenue of life and there will be disagreements about certain points, the FT 'represents' the 'majority view of it's members.

Do you think all LCFC fans agree on everything? Of course they don't.

With the MM deal it's not even a case of agreeing or not there's nothing to agree on at this point because the formal offer has not been made.

you think it still will be? <_<

[He's not bald]

you think it still will be? <_<

O and by the way all the Leicester fans I know agree that the board are a shower of shite,the FT are a waste of space and the club are in big big trouble!

[DEANO]

Bottom line we are in the shit,the board has given it their best shot but there's certainly a chance we will end up back admin only this time (if we stay in existence) we will be in a lower division with a 10 point penalty,no money and the worst joke in football since "big ron manager"

[davieG]

O and by the way all the Leicester fans I know agree that the board are a shower of shite,the FT are a waste of space and the club are in big big trouble!

So why don't they put their money where their mouths are pay £10, take over the FT in their 1000's and tell the board to FO?

Anyone can moan from an armchair, if they are that concerned why don't they all do something about it.

[Manwell Pablo]

So why don't they put their money where their mouths are pay £10, take over the FT in their 1000's and tell the board to FO?

Anyone can moan from an armchair, if they are that concerned why don't they all do something about it.

Because I'm quite sure they'd admit they don't have the time and the skills to do such a job, a bit like the current mob.

[davieG]

Because I'm quite sure they'd admit they don't have the time and the skills to do such a job, a bit like the current mob.

Sounds a bit like the pot calling the kettle then.

Don't get me wrong, and I've said this before I think the FT have made some extremely poor decisions with the style and manner of their communications and despite criticism from members like myself continue to do so.

But as a body representing a group of fans, who between them hold a number of shares they are entitled, nay duty bound to do what is best for their members. If that doesn't fit in with the majority fan view and I'm still not sure where people get the idea that it is different then that is tough.

As for them not repeseenting all fans, well that is also true they only represent their members, all other fans are not represented by anyone and therefore are not allowed a formal say in the outcome. Of course they can influence it by campaigning as individuals but that's as far as they can go - that is their choice.

[Chrysalis]

So what are the alternatives to MM then? That's the implication from the statement above. I'll tell you. There isn't one.

we go begging to the tigers for 20 mill in return they get a % of premiership tv money every year and use of the walkers stadium and we lose our pride.

[Ric Flair]

So if the final bid document hasn't even been circulated yet, I take it we can forget about the takeover being completed by the time the window closes?

I may be in the minority here but I'd certainly want a decent amount of time to consider a response to a final bid document on the takeover of my football club if I had the huge responsibility of some sort of say in the matter.

But considering the board have been in talks with MM for months and he's had to re-draft several bid documents, then to require a lot of time to make a decision on whether to sell your shares would perhaps suggest you don't have faith in the board? And as a shareholder, why have you allowed the current board to continue if you haven't faith in them. Also, here is an opportunity to get some of your money back before the said board you haven't much faith in run the club in to the ground and your shares will be worth nothing.

The board, bless them have been very cautious in going back to the shareholders with the final bid without being 100% sure the shareholders will accept the bid. Now that has it's advantages and disadvantages. Disadvantages being that it's taken a long while to get to where they are and now MM has possibly got fed up and walked away. Meaning the boards over cautious approach has been a waste of time and will leave the fans possibly mis-lead and very angry.

[Manwell Pablo]

Sounds a bit like the pot calling the kettle then.

Don't get me wrong, and I've said this before I think the FT have made some extremely poor decisions with the style and manner of their communications and despite criticism from members like myself continue to do so.

But as a body representing a group of fans, who between them hold a number of shares they are entitled, nay duty bound to do what is best for their members. If that doesn't fit in with the majority fan view and I'm still not sure where people get the idea that it is different then that is tough.

As for them not repeseenting all fans, well that is also true they only represent their members, all other fans are not represented by anyone and therefore are not allowed a formal say in the outcome. Of course they can influence it by campaigning as individuals but that's as far as they can go - that is their choice.

Not quite, it's more like the pot informing the kettle that Liten Iced Tea is the future of tea, so they're both soon going to be rendered useless.

[Chrysalis]

the bid I seen has been leaked online now, the basic details of it that is.

[Jon the Hat]

the bid I seen has been leaked online now, the basic details of it that is.

Linkage?

[MC Prussian]

Whatever may happen, it's not a big change for me.

One could assume that the Board has learnt better from the previous years, but that's imagination.

No matter where we'll end up and how and where we'll get that financial aid from, there's no doubt we'll be the laughing stock in England for quite some time to come.

[The People's Hero]

So why don't they put their money where their mouths are pay £10, take over the FT in their 1000's and tell the board to FO?

Anyone can moan from an armchair, if they are that concerned why don't they all do something about it.

Do you really want me to list the multitude of answers to this one?

How about the shares in question are under offer from a certain Mr Mandaric anyway?

The fact that in any case, the FT wouldn't sell to us... and who else would for the matter?

The fact that we can hardly go to fans and ask for contributions when the FT did exactly that and have let those who paid feeling disillusioned? They're just going to pay us unquestioningly are they?

With Mandaric coming in and looking to buy as many shares as possible, we'd have basically no say. So what's the point? Other than feeling smug but in reality being completely irrelevant (see FT) I don't see any point.

And your final point about moaning from an armchair... what exactly are you getting at? I know people can moan - that's obvious. Do people moan about orgasms and beer and holidays? No, these things are good. Do people moan about the FT? Yes. It's shit.

Do you see?

Just because people CAN moan, doesn't mean it's not bad.

It's like saying people only criticise and lament the Holocaust because it's something to do. Okay, so it's not much like that, but it's similar in regards to the fact that having the ability to moan about something, does not mean everyone necessarily will.

[He's not bald]

So why don't they put their money where their mouths are pay £10, take over the FT in their 1000's and tell the board to FO?

Anyone can moan from an armchair, if they are that concerned why don't they all do something about it.

The only time I see the "fans" I'm talking about are the times like when they are piss soaked through at St Mary's or watching drivel served up as football on new years day...no fooking armchairs anywhere...and certainly not a 1000 FT members!

[davieG]

Do you really want me to list the multitude of answers to this one?

How about the shares in question are under offer from a certain Mr Mandaric anyway?

The fact that in any case, the FT wouldn't sell to us... and who else would for the matter?

The fact that we can hardly go to fans and ask for contributions when the FT did exactly that and have let those who paid feeling disillusioned? They're just going to pay us unquestioningly are they?

With Mandaric coming in and looking to buy as many shares as possible, we'd have basically no say. So what's the point? Other than feeling smug but in reality being completely irrelevant (see FT) I don't see any point.

And your final point about moaning from an armchair... what exactly are you getting at? I know people can moan - that's obvious. Do people moan about orgasms and beer and holidays? No, these things are good. Do people moan about the FT? Yes. It's shit.

Do you see?

Just because people CAN moan, doesn't mean it's not bad.

It's like saying people only criticise and lament the Holocaust because it's something to do. Okay, so it's not much like that, but it's similar in regards to the fact that having the ability to moan about something, does not mean everyone necessarily will.

The fact that in any case, the FT wouldn't sell to us... and who else would for the matter?

Why would they have to sell them to you, you would be the FT if you joined and voted out the current negotiators - you would then just need to ring up MMand say the deals on. All it needs is enough people to put up £10 and get themselves voted in.

I've got nothing against people moaning ask my Mrs I'm up there with the best of them, I was just pointing out that in this particular case there was a viable option, especially when it was in response to someone saying there was 18000+ people that disagreed with the FT and where moaning at them..

[He's not bald]

Why would they have to sell them to you, you would be the FT if you joined and voted out the current negotiators - you would then just need to ring up MMand say the deals on. All it needs is enough people to put up £10 and get themselves voted in.

I've got nothing against people moaning ask my Mrs I'm up there with the best of them, I was just pointing out that in this particular case there was a viable option, especially when it was in response to someone saying there was 18000+ people that disagreed with the FT and where moaning at them..

Whats with the £10 again?...you get a cut?

[davieG]

Whats with the £10 again?...you get a cut?

Standard Annual Membership Fee for the FT, but you'd only have to join for a year to get them to change the way they operate re MM

[The People's Hero]

Why would they have to sell them to you, you would be the FT if you joined and voted out the current negotiators - you would then just need to ring up MMand say the deals on. All it needs is enough people to put up £10 and get themselves voted in.

I've got nothing against people moaning ask my Mrs I'm up there with the best of them, I was just pointing out that in this particular case there was a viable option, especially when it was in response to someone saying there was 18000+ people that disagreed with the FT and where moaning at them..

No one takes the FT seriously.. the damage has been done. They have been maneouvred in to a position which is far too inconsequential considering their shareholding. I wouldn't particularly want to be associated with the brand and believe that the image of the Trust is now irreparably tarnished.

That is to say, quite simply, I disagree with you assertion that anyone unhappy with the way the FT has operated in the short time during which it has existed, should put money in to a Trust which they are unhappy with.

Besides which, I imagine once MM gets in... it's all over for them.

[Guest]

we go begging to the tigers for 20 mill in return they get a % of premiership tv money every year and use of the walkers stadium and we lose our pride.

I don't think wse have any pride left, to be fair.

[DEANO]

No one takes the FT seriously.. the damage has been done. They have been maneouvred in to a position which is far too inconsequential considering their shareholding. I wouldn't particularly want to be associated with the brand and believe that the image of the Trust is now irreparably tarnished.

That is to say, quite simply, I disagree with you assertion that anyone unhappy with the way the FT has operated in the short time during which it has existed, should put money in to a Trust which they are unhappy with.

Besides which, I imagine once MM gets in... it's all over for them.

Some people think its all over.............it is.......????

[Daggers]

the bid I seen has been leaked online now, the basic details of it that is.

Linkage?

This is the nearest you're going to get, I think

[Fez of Mahrez]

But considering the board have been in talks with MM for months and he's had to re-draft several bid documents, then to require a lot of time to make a decision on whether to sell your shares would perhaps suggest you don't have faith in the board? And as a shareholder, why have you allowed the current board to continue if you haven't faith in them. Also, here is an opportunity to get some of your money back before the said board you haven't much faith in run the club in to the ground and your shares will be worth nothing.

The board, bless them have been very cautious in going back to the shareholders with the final bid without being 100% sure the shareholders will accept the bid. Now that has it's advantages and disadvantages. Disadvantages being that it's taken a long while to get to where they are and now MM has possibly got fed up and walked away. Meaning the boards over cautious approach has been a waste of time and will leave the fans possibly mis-lead and very angry.

1) Why would taking a lot of time on the decision mean lack of faith in the current board? If anything it would mean they were not desperate to get rid of them.

2) I wasn't aware the board were in possession of the final bid? If they are then by all means, barrack them at your will. I find it hard to work out what the hell's going on so I try to veer away from stating that anything the fans get to hear about the whole business is factual - as such, you can see that is a genuine question...

Are the board in possession of a final bid document?