Master Fox Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 I’m pretty sure the same thing happened to Rotherham and they had to start the following season after being relegated with -10 points?
Dr The Singh Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 I’m pretty sure the same thing happened to Rotherham and they had to start the following season after being relegated with -10 points? But technically leeds aren't relegated?????
Raj Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 I think it is sad and pathetic that we,as Leicester fans have to insult such a great club like Leeds. Come on guys give them a break.It must be so disheartening to see a club that were once feared throughout Europe now having to think about trips to Cheltenham and Milwall . I for one will miss their pleasant friendly supporters with their cheerful and non racist chants. I am, of course, TAKING THE PISS!!!! :banana: :laugh: :laugh:
breadandcheese Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 I'm happy they went down, but I hope they don't have to go to into admin. We all know how tough it can be, people losing their jobs, etc. I won't have a smile if they start with a ten point deduction because of admin.
Daggers Posted 30 April 2007 Author Posted 30 April 2007 They won't have the finance or the pulling power to get the loanees to stay to fight the third tier...and I really can't see anyone wanting to stay to play League 1 unless they have to. Will go: Richard Cresswell – Will be sold Gary Kelly – will go and lighten the wage bill by 20 large a week Tore Andre Flo – will go, he’ll not be playing third tier footy David Healy - will go, he’ll not be playing third tier footy Eddie Lewis – can’t see him wanting to stay Frazer Richardson – I’d imagine he’d be a target for some Championship sides Hayden Foxe - I’d imagine he’d be a target for some Championship sides Kevin Nicholls – going! Staying: Stephen Crainey – who’d buy him? Jonathan Douglas – guess he’d stay Ian Westlake – will stay Robbie Elliott – Imagine he will see out his contract Gylfi Einarsson – will stay Sebastien Carole – will stay Matt Heath – will stay Shaun Derry – no one would have him Ian Moore – I bet if anyone offered over 50K they’d jump at it Rui Marques – No one would take him…unless he’d go to Hull full-time Neil Sullivan – made more appearances for Doncaster this season! Tresor Kandol – will stay Robert Blake – no sure the queues for him will be very long Ben Parker – would rather stay at Bradford I’ll bet Jermaine Beckford – would stay unless he transfers to Carlisle Jonathan Howson – kid, will stay Robert Bayly - kid, will stay Jonathan Lund - kid, will stay Tom Elliott - kid, will stay Danny Rose - kid, will stay
Daggers Posted 30 April 2007 Author Posted 30 April 2007 BBC NEWS 24: "If they go into administration this week, Leeds WILL start next season with a 10 points deduction." Latest news from BBC NEWS24: The FA have confirmed that if Leeds go into administration within the next seven days the 10 point deduction would be applied to THIS season.
Raj Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 I'm happy they went down, but I hope they don't have to go to into admin. We all know how tough it can be, people losing their jobs, etc. I won't have a smile if they start with a ten point deduction because of admin. I'm sorry,BUT i still think Leeds going into Admin will be funny! However i will feel sorry for the non-playing staff who may lose their jobs
Master Fox Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Latest news from BBC NEWS24:The FA have confirmed that if Leeds go into administration within the next seven days the 10 point deduction would be applied to THIS season. The FA are a bunch of idiots.
Phube Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 It's all funny about the admin!! But they owe my Missus' company £30,000!!! Dirty, cheating bastards!!!!
lcfc_jme Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Ermm.. OK then. We are Leeds and we know you are laughing. We are Leeds and we know the rest of you are up there on the moral high ground, pointing fingers at our terrible fans and listening to cosy love-ins on BBC radio as Peter Ridsdale, the Cardiff City chairman and former chairman of Leeds, denies all wrongdoing and tells how he shared a glass of champagne with his Hull City counterpart after the match that did for the club he supposedly loves. But why do you hate us? Is it because of the one-eyed revisionists who remember Don Revie’s team only as cynical Celts with the moral fibre of a Viking stag party and forget the mesmerising football they played? Is it because you remember the riots in Birmingham, Paris and Bournemouth but forget Liverpool in Belgium and England everywhere? True football fans should feel deep sympathy for Leeds United. Why? Because our history is denied by those who refuse to acknowledge the greatness of Revie’s Leeds and harp on about bribery, lucky suits and finishing second. Well poor old José Mourinho and his £200 million war chest should try doing the Double when you have to play the FA Cup Final on Saturday and the title decider on Monday. Leeds did that in 1972 and were called chokers. Everyone has it in for Leeds. From the referee who failed to spot the offside against West Bromwich Albion in 1971 that robbed Leeds of another title and sparked the first pitch invasion to the one who robbed Leeds of the European Cup final in 1975 and sparked the first riot. Dirty, dirty Leeds. I know Leeds fans can be scumbags. I was at Dean Court in 1990 when Leeds got promoted to the top flight after a weekend of mayhem in Bournemouth. I visited my future inlaws that night and heard how some Northern knuckle-dusters had burnt a friend’s beach hut and punched a friend’s daughter in a bar. Awful, yes, but the football section of any bookshop is full of memoirs of sad, little men who spent the 1980s believing that they were military generals at Chelsea and West Ham United. Leeds were not alone in their casual misanthropy, so why hate us more? And now that future generations will never know that Leeds mattered, the worst part is having our history misappropriated by the welk-eaters. Yes, Revie’s Leeds could mix it with the best of them, but Ron “Chopper†Harris did not get his nickname because he had a fancy bike and Graeme Souness sometimes missed the ball. It was not all of them, either — I bet Eddie Gray’s dog never even fouled a pavement — but the vilification of Revie has never been as objective as the treatment meted out to Brian Clough. We are Leeds and you are laughing, but you wait until the Roman Abramovich era blows up in your face. You are just like us, really — passionate, partisan and utterly at the whims of the people you did not vote for. We did not ask Ridsdale to buy Seth Johnson or pay Gary Kelly £40,000 a week until he is in pipe and slippers. We did not ask anyone to sell Elland Road and we certainly did not ask Alan Smith to say that he would stay in the event of relegation only to kiss his badge and bugger off to our bitter rivals. Who do we blame? Ridsdale’s board, a string of managers, underperforming players, Woodgate and Bowyer — it goes on. So we are Leeds and we have been kicked to death. We have had one cup final in 32 years, a 3-0 defeat by Aston Villa in the Coca-Cola thingy that left Howard Wilkinson feeling “emotionally disembowelledâ€. We live on pain and the pompous tosh of our detractors. So goodbye from the emotionally disembowelled of West Yorkshire. And thanks for nothing.
Leicfox Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Thats an excellent post from whoever wrote it, it almost makes me feel what it probably set out to do, which is feel sorry for Leeds Utd. It does'nt quite wash though.
davieG Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Ermm.. OK then.We are Leeds and we know you are laughing. We are Leeds and we know the rest of you are up there on the moral high ground, pointing fingers at our terrible fans and listening to cosy love-ins on BBC radio as Peter Ridsdale, the Cardiff City chairman and former chairman of Leeds, denies all wrongdoing and tells how he shared a glass of champagne with his Hull City counterpart after the match that did for the club he supposedly loves. ......... The guy ( ) makes some fair points as we would know by the constant stream of ignoramouses calling us cheats re administration, including some Leeds fans I might add. But as far as I and many other LCFC fans are concerned they've missed a crucial point ,my joy at their demise is almost 100% as a result of Denis Wise, who with his ugly shit faced agent Eric Hall tried to kill LCFC off completely not just relegation but the end of LCFC as we know it.
Manwell Pablo Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/6606823.stm Please someone save us...anyone Leeds issue appeal to investors Leeds chief executive Shaun Harvey has told would-be investors to prove they have the funds in place to help them bounce back to the Championship. Leeds were all but relegated to League One on Saturday and the club's second relegation in three years could lead to serious financial implications. Harvey said: "Anyone interested should contact us with full details of who they are and proof of funds. "We will continue to decline to comment on speculation." A Leeds spokesman denied a board meeting took place on Monday to discuss the club's future. The club will be relegated on Sunday unless they score a hatful of goals to beat Derby and Hull City lose at home to Plymouth. In a statement on the club website, Harvey added: "It is important that we take time to reflect on all the factors that have seen us relegated, barring a miracle at Derby next week. 606: DEBATE As a Bradford City fan I can fully appreciate the worries and concerns that Leeds fans will be feeling - best of luck to you and your club KB "We need to make considered and structured decisions, both on and off the field, over the forthcoming weeks to position ourselves to use next season as a springboard to go forward from. "There is no point in looking back as we cannot change the past. What we need to do is positively affect the future to get this great club back to where it should be so we can all be proud of the club again." Meanwhile, chairman Ken Bates has given his backing to manager Dennis Wise, despite the expected drop into the third tier of English football. Wise took over as boss from Kevin Blackwell in October but was unable to halt the club's dip in form. Bates told the Yorkshire Post: "Dennis has done a much better job than many people realise. "We were in a much worse position when Dennis came in than people know about. "Some of the difficulties he inherited cannot be made public but there were real problems in the dressing room. The playing side was in complete disarray."
jean de plume Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Wise,Wise,Wherever you may be, You've taken Leeds to Division 3, You'll never win a cup, You'll never win a shield, And your biggest game is Huddersfield.
Bluefoxtim Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Already posted. Not the best start to foxestalk!
Daggers Posted 30 April 2007 Author Posted 30 April 2007 From the riots in Paris to the destruction of part of the stadium at West Brom... From the cynical play of Revie's thugs to the racist nightclub assaults... From the NF recruiters outside Elland Road to the current management team... Of course "Everyone has it in for Leeds"! Each fan, across the country has their own personal reason for disliking Leeds but the one thing that unites us is the loathing of their persecution complex and the jumped-up proclaimations of their own self-importance. They don't just reflect a Northern stereotype - they embrace it, they bask in it. "From the referee who failed to spot the offside against West Bromwich Albion in 1971 that robbed Leeds of another title and sparked the first pitch invasion to the one who robbed Leeds of the European Cup final in 1975 and sparked the first riot" This eloquent Times reader that submitted his diatribe is simply trying to excuse the excesses of his club - he is just trying a typed slight of hand in the style of those that would fool you with a three card trick. It's not fair, he is saying, that everyone hates Leeds because we react when people pick on us. It's not fair, he continues, that people hate us when other teams have similar histories. It's not fair, he whines, in the style of a petulant playground pedant. "Our history is denied by those who refuse to acknowledge the greatness of Revie's Leeds" Not only is this a delusional statement but it also conveys the sense that they feel everyone in the world is to blame for their current plight aside from them. They supported Risdale - they cheered for O'Leary...they bought into the dream of buying a European Cup and yet now he decries the Red Rom era? Excuse me...the team that played its part in inflating salaries across the Premiership with a trickle down effect through the leagues blames the current crop of Premiership masters? Of course he does, because blame is all he has left. "Is it because you remember the riots in Birmingham, Paris and Bournemouth but forget Liverpool in Belgium and England everywhere?" I remember them all and more besides; from the rain of coins to the police horse charge, I remember them. I remember being caught up in Leeds riots, I remember being with friends. I remember Barnsley and Oxford, I remember 'sieg hail' salutes from the Geldern End and Nazi chants in Munich, I remember songs about 'niggers' and a damaged New Street. In fact, I seem to remember Leeds being the single most destructive force in English football over the last forty years. Of course I recall other teams and their moments of shame but there is an overwhelming mass of damning evidence against this scummy Yorkshire team. "True football fans should feel deep sympathy for Leeds United" Well - I guess that I can not be a true fan of football then for if Leeds were to fold tomorrow, I would celebrate.
The People's Hero Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 From the riots in Paris to the destruction of part of the stadium at West Brom...From the cynical play of Revie's thugs to the racist nightclub assaults... From the NF recruiters outside Elland Road to the current management team... Of course "Everyone has it in for Leeds"! Each fan, across the country has their own personal reason for disliking Leeds but the one thing that unites us is the loathing of their persecution complex and the jumped-up proclaimations of their own self-importance. They don't just reflect a Northern stereotype - they embrace it, they bask in it. "From the referee who failed to spot the offside against West Bromwich Albion in 1971 that robbed Leeds of another title and sparked the first pitch invasion to the one who robbed Leeds of the European Cup final in 1975 and sparked the first riot" This eloquent Times reader that submitted his diatribe is simply trying to excuse the excesses of his club - he is just trying a typed slight of hand in the style of those that would fool you with a three card trick. It's not fair, he is saying, that everyone hates Leeds because we react when people pick on us. It's not fair, he continues, that people hate us when other teams have similar histories. It's not fair, he whines, in the style of a petulant playground pedant. "Our history is denied by those who refuse to acknowledge the greatness of Revie's Leeds" Not only is this a delusional statement but it also conveys the sense that they feel everyone in the world is to blame for their current plight aside from them. They supported Risdale - they cheered for O'Leary...they bought into the dream of buying a European Cup and yet now he decries the Red Rom era? Excuse me...the team that played its part in inflating salaries across the Premiership with a trickle down effect through the leagues blames the current crop of Premiership masters? Of course he does, because blame is all he has left. "Is it because you remember the riots in Birmingham, Paris and Bournemouth but forget Liverpool in Belgium and England everywhere?" I remember them all and more besides; from the rain of coins to the police horse charge, I remember them. I remember being caught up in Leeds riots, I remember being with friends. I remember Barnsley and Oxford, I remember 'sieg hail' salutes from the Geldern End and Nazi chants in Munich, I remember songs about 'niggers' and a damaged New Street. In fact, I seem to remember Leeds being the single most destructive force in English football over the last forty years. Of course I recall other teams and their moments of shame but there is an overwhelming mass of damning evidence against this scummy Yorkshire team. "True football fans should feel deep sympathy for Leeds United" Well - I guess that I can not be a true fan of football then for if Leeds were to fold tomorrow, I would celebrate. First Class.
Leicfox Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Well - I guess that I can not be a true fan of football then for if Leeds were to fold tomorrow, I would celebrate.
The Reverend Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 From the riots in Paris to the destruction of part of the stadium at West Brom...From the cynical play of Revie's thugs to the racist nightclub assaults... From the NF recruiters outside Elland Road to the current management team... Of course "Everyone has it in for Leeds"! Each fan, across the country has their own personal reason for disliking Leeds but the one thing that unites us is the loathing of their persecution complex and the jumped-up proclaimations of their own self-importance. They don't just reflect a Northern stereotype - they embrace it, they bask in it. "From the referee who failed to spot the offside against West Bromwich Albion in 1971 that robbed Leeds of another title and sparked the first pitch invasion to the one who robbed Leeds of the European Cup final in 1975 and sparked the first riot" This eloquent Times reader that submitted his diatribe is simply trying to excuse the excesses of his club - he is just trying a typed slight of hand in the style of those that would fool you with a three card trick. It's not fair, he is saying, that everyone hates Leeds because we react when people pick on us. It's not fair, he continues, that people hate us when other teams have similar histories. It's not fair, he whines, in the style of a petulant playground pedant. "Our history is denied by those who refuse to acknowledge the greatness of Revie's Leeds" Not only is this a delusional statement but it also conveys the sense that they feel everyone in the world is to blame for their current plight aside from them. They supported Risdale - they cheered for O'Leary...they bought into the dream of buying a European Cup and yet now he decries the Red Rom era? Excuse me...the team that played its part in inflating salaries across the Premiership with a trickle down effect through the leagues blames the current crop of Premiership masters? Of course he does, because blame is all he has left. "Is it because you remember the riots in Birmingham, Paris and Bournemouth but forget Liverpool in Belgium and England everywhere?" I remember them all and more besides; from the rain of coins to the police horse charge, I remember them. I remember being caught up in Leeds riots, I remember being with friends. I remember Barnsley and Oxford, I remember 'sieg hail' salutes from the Geldern End and Nazi chants in Munich, I remember songs about 'niggers' and a damaged New Street. In fact, I seem to remember Leeds being the single most destructive force in English football over the last forty years. Of course I recall other teams and their moments of shame but there is an overwhelming mass of damning evidence against this scummy Yorkshire team. "True football fans should feel deep sympathy for Leeds United" Well - I guess that I can not be a true fan of football then for if Leeds were to fold tomorrow, I would celebrate. Amen to that Lemond!
davieG Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 From a Leeds forum via Fox Fanzine. 12.3.1 With effect from the 10th May 2004, if any Club shall:- a) have a manager, administrator, receiver or administrative receiver appointed in respect of that Club or any part of its undertaking or assets; b) have an administration order made in respect of that Club; c) have a winding-up order made in respect of that Club; d) pass a resolution for the winding-up of that Club; e) enter into any agreement with its creditors or some part of them in respect of the payment of its debts or part of them as a company voluntary arrangement under the Insolvency Act 1986 or Scheme or Arrangement under the Companies Act 1985; or f) have any proceeding or step taken or any court order in any jurisdiction made which has substantially similar effect to any of the foregoing; that Club shall be deducted 10 points. 12.3.2 Where the Club suffers such action as set out in Regulation 12.3.1:- a) at any time during the Normal Playing Season, before the date of 1st March, the points deduction shall apply immediately; b) outside the Normal Playing Season, the points deduction shall apply in respect of the following Season such that the Club starts that Season on minus 10 points.
Steven Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 From a Leeds forum via Fox Fanzine. 12.3.2 Where the Club suffers such action as set out in Regulation 12.3.1:-a) at any time during the Normal Playing Season, before the date of 1st March, the points deduction shall apply immediately; b) outside the Normal Playing Season, the points deduction shall apply in respect of the following Season such that the Club starts that Season on minus 10 points. Is it me but this does not seem to cover the period from the 1st of March until the end of the "Normal Playing Season"? :dunno:
davieG Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 Is it me but this does not seem to cover the period from the 1st of March until the end of the "Normal Playing Season"? It doesn't but it would seem that they don't fit into the "before 1st March", can one summise that they are covered by section b)? I'm sure we all hope so.
lookwhaticando Posted 30 April 2007 Posted 30 April 2007 It doesn't but it would seem that they don't fit into the "before 1st March", can one summise that they are covered by section b)?I'm sure we all hope so. To me it seems to be quite an abuse to go into administration now if the deduction was immediate. In my opinion, that's an abuse of the regulation - take the ten point hit now, and magically get yourself fixed up for the start of next season - free of trouble. They have a good three months until the season starts once again - plenty can be done in three months. To me, deducting the points now when the benefits of administration will have absolutely no bearing on the current season is nonsense. Let's hope it's b).
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