MooseBreath Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 It's a ****ing massive hurricane and we're British, what do we know about crazy weather? Why are you being a twat, FIF? She's humblebragging in a "my storms are bigger than your storms" kind of way, to let us all know she lives on big bad France where hurricanes are apparently common.
Reynard Bleu Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 gusts maybe 100mph NOT winds. The wave surge could be a serious problem but it appears that things were not as bad as people were reporting. Just before the millenium eve we were hit with a big hurricane, 6 days without water or electricity and roads cut off for 3 or 4 days. I was also in the last big British storm. If you take the right precautions then there is a very very small chance that you will be hurt. It's the same with the wave surges - we had one three years ago here which flooded the town but you move upstairs whilst it's on or you move inland for a couple of days. I hear that there have been 13 deaths so far, sad but no worse than a cold snap in London on the homeless. Cyclone Lothar if I remember correctly, caused a great deal of damage across France, Germany and Switzerland and other European states. I was on secondment to a US Army unit at Kelly Barracks in Stuttgart and spent weeks helping locals to clear up the mess and repair houses/services etc. Very nasty storm.
Jordan Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Thanks for the concern. I'm fine, and I have probably weathered the storm much better than most. There are widespread power outages here and flooding, but despite my proximity to the Hudson River and the local flood, I'm high, dry, and able to log on to FoxesTalk. My family and friends are OK, though I don't really know how much damage has been done in their neighborhoods. My office has been closed for the second straight day. If the winds die down later, I'll survey the local damage, but for now I'm staying indoors. Some of the scenes in Manhattan and Brooklyn were surreal (not so much Long Island and southern Connecticut, which are more prone to floods). We're not immune to bad weather here, and there is always the risk of flooding in a city on the water. But floods like that are quite rare--unprecedented, even. The NYC subway is still shut down, and so are most tunnels and bridges. Jersey got slammed. Delware and Maryland look rough. Edit to add as a post-script that it's easy to think that weather warnings are exaggerated, or look at numbers and think "it's really not that bad." Comparisons to European windstorm cyclones are useless. Severe weather is severe weather and all warnings should be heeded. I think a lot of people here learned their lesson from Hurricane Irene last year.
purpleronnie Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/2012/10/30/father-s-hope-for-missing-boy-fades-91466-32128958/ Missing boy after frnace storm. sounds disheartening.
casablancas Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 My mrs is in NYC. Well she was until she shipped out to Connecticut. Days it's been getting rough over there. Hope everyone stays safe.
Guest Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Cyclone Lothar if I remember correctly, caused a great deal of damage across France, Germany and Switzerland and other European states. I was on secondment to a US Army unit at Kelly Barracks in Stuttgart and spent weeks helping locals to clear up the mess and repair houses/services etc. Very nasty storm. about 150 people died.
Guest Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 It's a ****ing massive hurricane and we're British, what do we know about crazy weather? Why are you being a twat, FIF? You're Welsh!
Smudge Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Thanks for the good wishes. The center of storm was always 150+ miles away although we have been battered by wind and rain since Friday. I looked out of the windows on Sunday night and was convinced that with 4 hours to go before high tide, we would get some water into the house on the lower floor. That floor houses the garage and a recreation room. We spent the next two hours putting everything above the level I expected the water might to rise to. Fortunately we didn't get flooded nor on Monday morning when the high tide was expected to be even higher. The waters have receded and as I look out of my window they are about 8 feet lower than they were this time yesterday. No matter how uneventful it turns out to be, the anxiety of waiting for the unknown is not a pleasant experience, especially as we can expect it most years.
cambridgefox Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Thanks for the concern. I'm fine, and I have probably weathered the storm much better than most. There are widespread power outages here and flooding, but despite my proximity to the Hudson River and the local flood, I'm high, dry, and able to log on to FoxesTalk. My family and friends are OK, though I don't really know how much damage has been done in their neighborhoods. My office has been closed for the second straight day. If the winds die down later, I'll survey the local damage, but for now I'm staying indoors. Some of the scenes in Manhattan and Brooklyn were surreal (not so much Long Island and southern Connecticut, which are more prone to floods). We're not immune to bad weather here, and there is always the risk of flooding in a city on the water. But floods like that are quite rare--unprecedented, even. The NYC subway is still shut down, and so are most tunnels and bridges. Jersey got slammed. Delware and Maryland look rough. Edit to add as a post-script that it's easy to think that weather warnings are exaggerated, or look at numbers and think "it's really not that bad." Comparisons to European windstorm cyclones are useless. Severe weather is severe weather and all warnings should be heeded. I think a lot of people here learned their lesson from Hurricane Irene last year. Glad you are safe.My cousin must be having a shit time lives in Brooklyn and works in manhattan forJWT and his wife for Ogilvy & Mather also in Manhattan ,I assume they stayed at home.
Carl the Llama Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 You're Welsh! Une expat francaise n'a aucun droit a nier qu'un gallois soit Brittanique...
MooseBreath Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Glad you are safe.My cousin must be having a shit time lives in Brooklyn and works in manhattan forJWT and his wife for Ogilvy & Mather also in Manhattan ,I assume they stayed at home. Humblebrag by association, I like it
Jordan Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 A brief, early survey of the storm reveals very little damage done to my street. We're just fine. Meanwhile, here a photo I found of the scene four blocks east--downhill towards the river--last night (apologies for the poor quality; I didn't take it ): Normally, the Hudson River is on the other side of that train station. Thanks for the good wishes. The center of storm was always 150+ miles away although we have been battered by wind and rain since Friday. I looked out of the windows on Sunday night and was convinced that with 4 hours to go before high tide, we would get some water into the house on the lower floor. That floor houses the garage and a recreation room. We spent the next two hours putting everything above the level I expected the water might to rise to. Fortunately we didn't get flooded nor on Monday morning when the high tide was expected to be even higher. The waters have receded and as I look out of my window they are about 8 feet lower than they were this time yesterday. No matter how uneventful it turns out to be, the anxiety of waiting for the unknown is not a pleasant experience, especially as we can expect it most years. The way things are going, it seems like Hurricane Alley is now a little bigger. Climate change could make tropical cyclones part of the "new normal" in the Northeast. I'm glad Sandy tiptoed around Virginia Beach--things could have been worse for you if it took a path more typical of hurricanes that hit the East Coast.
Finnegan Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 You're Welsh! Nobody has yet died of our forty three years of consecutive drizzle.
Captain... Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Nobody has yet died of our forty three years of consecutive drizzle. http://www.heart.co.uk/wrexham/news/local/man-dies-north-wales-floods/ Actually Wales has suffered more than the rest of Great Britain with heavy flooding in the last few years, which has resulted in a number of deaths, above is one example... Just saying.
GLC Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 Apparently in America, if the tree in your yard gets blown over by the high winds and hits your neighbours house and it causes damage, you could be sued! I knew americans liked to sue people, but isn't that taking the piss? How can you secure the tree from a hurricane!? http://video.foxnews.com/v/1934840750001/whos-responsible-for-mother-nature/?playlist_id=903226511001
GLC Posted 30 October 2012 Posted 30 October 2012 http://video.foxnews.com/v/1934551239001/camera-catches-partial-crane-collapse-in-manhattan/?playlist_id=903226511001 Video of the crane collapse in New York
Danno Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 In New York right now was supposed to fly home Monday night. The crane Was a few blocks from our hotel but no damage happened nearby. If anyone knows if Newark airport is open tomorrow it would be greatly appreciated
Jordan Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 In New York right now was supposed to fly home Monday night. The crane Was a few blocks from our hotel but no damage happened nearby. If anyone knows if Newark airport is open tomorrow it would be greatly appreciated The last I've heard was that the airports were expected to be up and running tomorrow, but not until the evening. The NY/NJ Port Authority website says that Newark airport will open at 7:00 p.m., which will probably affect your flight.
Smudge Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 Apparently in America, if the tree in your yard gets blown over by the high winds and hits your neighbours house and it causes damage, you could be sued! I knew americans liked to sue people, but isn't that taking the piss? How can you secure the tree from a hurricane!? http://video.foxnews...id=903226511001 The law here is no different to English law, insofar as if a healthy tree falls on your neighbours property, it is regarded as an "Act of God" and no-one is to blame. However, if you knew the tree was rotten or unstable, and it fell on their property and caused damage, then they could sue you for negligence. I believe English tort law has the same basic elements.
James. Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 One thing that struck me throughout the coverage was the way in which the death and destruction caused throughout the Caribbean was totally neglected in favour of complete focus on the storm hitting the East Coast. 54 people died in Haiti alone. Who knows how long it'll take to rebuild parts of the country. But all we hear about is some water in the subway, a crane falling over and a power cut. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20151178
Father Ted Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 One thing that struck me throughout the coverage was the way in which the death and destruction caused throughout the Caribbean was totally neglected in favour of complete focus on the storm hitting the East Coast. 54 people died in Haiti alone. Who knows how long it'll take to rebuild parts of the country. But all we hear about is some water in the subway, a crane falling over and a power cut. http://www.bbc.co.uk...merica-20151178 I have to concur. It also amazes me with the comparison in responses between this earthquake and Katrina that hit New Orleans.
Smudge Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 I have to concur. It also amazes me with the comparison in responses between this earthquake and Katrina that hit New Orleans. In what way? You can't even begin to compare the two events. New York wasn't built below the Hudson, there are no levies to be breached. In terms of media coverage, when the largest city in the US is flooded and a whole neighborhood of houses goes up in flames I guess it doesn't go unnoticed.
Father Ted Posted 31 October 2012 Posted 31 October 2012 In what way? You can't even begin to compare the two events. New York wasn't built below the Hudson, there are no levies to be breached. In terms of media coverage, when the largest city in the US is flooded and a whole neighborhood of houses goes up in flames I guess it doesn't go unnoticed. In the way that the black population of New Orleans were neglected in a place that bears little economic value to the US in comparison to New York.
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