Milky Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 I agree with Milan. its obviously nothing to do with the football.Personally, as I've stated on this board before he (MA) remined me of a sunday pub team manager on Hackney marshes! I don't even want to go into results as that would be pointless, but I will leave you with this question. If you owned your own business and you employed a man you thought you liked,and he said all the right things at the interview, but infact this man turned out to be nothing like you imagined would you continue to work with him ? or get rid ? Well done Milan you have BOTTLE!!! :laugh: I thought you'd be back, you went very quiet after that 4-1 win!
Lillehamring Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 spot on!! portsmouth are where they are purely because of redknapp not mandaric. remember mandaric got rid of harry, it starts going tits up and gets him back in again to rescue them. success always has more to do with the manager than anyone else. if mandaric does'nt get lucky with his appointments then i get the feeling this situation will be repeated time and again true, to a degree... although did redknapp ever take west ham anywhere?
MADLEVEIN Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 my opinion was i liked the mans honest no nonsense approach and after a poor perfomance we wouldnt get the adams/levein excuses of "we played well but was unlucky" every week, but look at the facts, 12 or so signings...and the only ones any good are clemence and ngotty and the jury is out on a most others. casino jimmy ?? sergio hellings ?? maybe these were scouted for him but he signed them, dj cambell scored two but is so lazy and such a poor first touch its unreal is he a better player than fryatt ? carl cort injured before he started not a real suprise there then, chambers looks good getting forward but dodgy at the back, jonathon hayes ?? ricky sappleton, unproven youth teamer, kishichev, dropped for wesowloski who was here already along with sheehan, hume, kisnorbo, and have probably been the performers in recent weeks. the fitness of the team is poor, shaun newton looked knackered after the warm up last night. i went last night and watched the team allen picked play and we was awful, no excuses just shocking, to change a winning team in such a drastic way was poor management and i doubt we would have turned it round, we had no tactics, no passion, no style just a big whack up front to two small forwards, crap. i wish him luck for the future but we need to support milan if we have any chance of reaching the premiership because if he aint then what or who have what got ??
Daggers Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 Absolute, abject, total f'cking bollocks. You DO NOT sack a manager after this many games. You DO NOT sack a manager after this many games with no replacement lined up. Milan - you are a cock and you are making the club a laughing stock. I was warned, we all were, we were told to be ready for the Mandaric roller-coaster. ...but me? I'd rather win or lose with integrity. This is shit.
Lord Nibblington Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 true, to a degree... although did redknapp ever take west ham anywhere? He wasn't awful at West Ham from what I remember. Though that's really neither here nor there, since he was and still is a cracking manager for Portsmouth.
Babylon Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 maybe these were scouted for him but he signed them No he was told these are the players we have found, you are having them. Which is exactly why he started to stand up to MM and said no to JFH and got in a Keeper he wanted.
JoeyB Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 They said it was due to different opinions of the direction of the club, but both Allen and Milan wanted promotion, so why sack him! Allen i didn't think at the start was the man for the job, but seeing him before the Watford game and passion he has shown for the club has made me begin to like him! Well tbh i for one will miss allen, he has definetly not been given enough time to complete the job, he has started! BRING BACK ALLEN
sackmycook Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 As far as i am concerned MM is doing and will continue to do what he thinks is best in his attempt to get us into the prem. If he feels that MA is not the man to help us achieve this then so be it.
Daggers Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 As far as i am concerned MM is doing and will continue to do what he thinks is best in his attempt to get us into the prem. If he feels that MA is not the man to help us achieve this then so be it. It's about INTEGRITY.
davieG Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 They said it was due to different opinions of the direction of the club, but both Allen and Milan wanted promotion, so why sack him!Allen i didn't think at the start was the man for the job, but seeing him before the Watford game and passion he has shown for the club has made me begin to like him! Well tbh i for one will miss allen, he has definetly not been given enough time to complete the job, he has started! BRING BACK ALLEN Yes but MM wants to achieve it by signing the likes of Fowler & JFH because he can then sell 3000 shirts, where as Allen wanted to go for a more young and hungry approach coupled with a broad section of ages and experience. I know which I prefer and it's not just because I don't do replica shirts.
STUHILL Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 As far as i am concerned MM is doing and will continue to do what he thinks is best in his attempt to get us into the prem. If he feels that MA is not the man to help us achieve this then so be it. Are you sure this may not be more of a personal issue, as in MA wasn't listening to MM as much as MM would have liked! I think MA was taking us in right direction but doing it his way and the only way he knows how. MM didn't like this and wants to be involved with everthing! MM is a proud man and couldn't hack it so showed his power by sacking Allen!
davieG Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 As far as i am concerned MM is doing and will continue to do what he thinks is best in his attempt to get us into the prem. If he feels that MA is not the man to help us achieve this then so be it. Well he's only ever got one managerial appointment correct out of about 15 and he even sacked him. The chances of the next one being the right one are as likely as there is of us winning the champions league.
RedOnRed Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 Even though there was so much speculation that this might be on the cards it's still astonishing news. I wonder where it leaves Allen so early on in the season. He wasn't even given time to prove himself. My own view is that the foreign investors in the sport just don't have the same perception.
Raj Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 Ive heard that when MA went to CIty the staff at MKdons were,to put it lightly VERY HAPPY! can you confirm???
worksopfox Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 Milan u got it wrong. Leicester City Laughing stock of football. My season ticket can go back if Warnock or Roeder are appointed!! Thanks for the effort Martin
Nationwider Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 Most people on this forum bought into the whole Mandaric thing from the outset - me included - so it seems a bit rich to be baying for the guy's blood when he's doing what we all wanted him to do, namely provide strong and decisive leadership. If this all a bit upsetting for you, get a grip, or get on the phone to The Foxes Trust and we can all go back to the days of being run by dozens of bumbling do-gooders and director's loungue schmoozers. Because after administration had been seen off, they were just the best times, weren't they? High-minded, highly-strung, big-mouth British managers like Martin Allen, Mike Newell, Ian Holloway, Graeme Souness (and possibly Neil Warnock???) are all totally incompatible with top flight football in England. Allen is too much of a loose canon to succeed in the current climate - he would be incompatible with most foreign owners. Those that succeed are either unflappable, ruthless pragmatists - Ferguson, Hughes, Moyes - or Artful Dodgers not adverse to bending the rules and bending over for their masters - Allardyce, Redknapp. The Daily MartinBlog was a jolly good read - if you like comics. But behind all the blue-sky thinking and buzz words, I don't think we really had a serious football brain at the helm. All the psychobabble was compensation for a lack of footballing substance. A soundbite here, a joke there. Pity the ball's not in his Carl Cort anymore. Good luck Martin - you're a nice guy, I hope you make it - and thank you for breathing life into the corpse of MDV. The next manager will have to work UNDER Manadaric - them's the rules now. And if anyone thinks an anti-Mandaric protest is a good idea, explain to me in clear terms how this will help the team and I'll join in with you. And while you're at it, remember who paid for Clemence, N'Gotty, Kishishev, Campbell, Clarke, Fulop... He who pays the piper calls the tune. You've made your mistake Milan. Get it right this time please.
Webbo Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 What decent manager will come here now? Anyone with any boll0x will know it's Manderic picking the team. All we'll get is a desperate willy puller like Roeder.
Karljohn Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 Fooking awful decision by Mandaric, MA beat many candidates during the summer and mandaric allowed him to spend, 4 games in and its curtains, utter bollocks. Been supporting LCFC since 1980 can not recall a more traumatic 24 hours apart from the administration than this, what sort of message does this send to players like DJ campbell and Clemence? Football has been getting more and more daft every season but this tops the lot, to think I made enquiries today about getting a season ticket on the payment plan! at the moment I cant contemplate even attending one match let alone the season. Never thought id say this but the club has become a fooking joke in recent seasons and this decision will just alienate many fans...ok so Martin wasnt the best tactician but is this going to be the season where MM picks the team, we have 7 different managers etc... Get well soon Clive Clarke, you must be wondering what the fook is going on son...
Foden Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 What a pisstake. end of. I'm not saying M.A is the best manager in the world, but he WAS the manager, and how can anyone make a decision on him after a handfull of games??! I was rather suprised we didn't go for any more transfer targets.... maybe this highlights exactly why.
bluefox82 Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 i said when it all came out in the papers that i had a contact in the club and that it was all going to happen but i was just mocked! even said to my mate at half time last night before it got called if we lost he would be gone! they will have someone else in mind i give it a week max till we have someone new in
JoeyB Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 We should all head up there on friday and start chanting bring back Allen outside the ground!
leeleic Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 I'm as shocked as anyone by this, but on listening to an interview on talk sport earlier with an ex city player(forget who, made 300 app for us) who works in hospitality for the club, when asked how shocked he was by this action out of 10, he claimed 2. When asked why, he claimed it had been pretty obvious over the last 2weeks that MM and MA have been locking horns over a number of incidents. The final nail in the coffin, he heard through "reliable" sources at the club, was the JFH transfer saga. Apparently MA turned up 2 hours late to the meeting with the player and MM, only to state he wanted no part in this and JFH should look elsewhere. Another issue was the way MA "carried himself around the club". Not so sure what he meant by that but he kept mentioning him being "rude" alot of the time. Might not seem like a big deal to us but you've only got to p*ss of one person and thats it. I didn't want to see Allen go, i think the players responded well to him, no one more than de vries, no doubt he'll soon be back to his normal self, but was it truly down to Allen or has Mandaric lifted the gloom from the club with his resources. Every player plays better with good players around him, Allen wouldn't have been able to bring any of these in without MM here. We'd be in the same ol sh*t state we were last season. Allens gone, thats it, If you were a business man investing what he has in the club, should there be someone in your way with different views to you, would you waste any time in relieving him of his services? no chance. Lets understand whats done is done. Lets just focus ourselves on what we proudly do best, support our team. The players will love nothing more than to see us reacting to what matters most, those 90mins on sat. MM will get his man, and eventually, get it right. He's not here to ruin us, he's here for success. LCFC are a club with huge expectations and we need someone with equally as bigger balls to take us to where we belong. IT WILL HAPPEN!!
Daggers Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 Most people on this forum bought into the whole Mandaric thing from the outset - me included - so it seems a bit rich to be baying for the guy's blood when he's doing what we all wanted him to do, namely provide strong and decisive leadership. If this all a bit upsetting for you, get a grip, or get on the phone to The Foxes Trust and we can all go back to the days of being run by dozens of bumbling do-gooders and director's loungue schmoozers. Because after administration had been seen off, they were just the best times, weren't they?High-minded, highly-strung, big-mouth British managers like Martin Allen, Mike Newell, Ian Holloway, Graeme Souness (and possibly Neil Warnock???) are all totally incompatible with top flight football in England. Allen is too much of a loose canon to succeed in the current climate - he would be incompatible with most foreign owners. Those that succeed are either unflappable, ruthless pragmatists - Ferguson, Hughes, Moyes - or Artful Dodgers not adverse to bending the rules and bending over for their masters - Allardyce, Redknapp. The Daily MartinBlog was a jolly good read - if you like comics. But behind all the blue-sky thinking and buzz words, I don't think we really had a serious football brain at the helm. All the psychobabble was compensation for a lack of footballing substance. A soundbite here, a joke there. Pity the ball's not in his Carl Cort anymore. Good luck Martin - you're a nice guy, I hope you make it - and thank you for breathing life into the corpse of MDV. The next manager will have to work UNDER Manadaric - them's the rules now. And if anyone thinks an anti-Mandaric protest is a good idea, explain to me in clear terms how this will help the team and I'll join in with you. And while you're at it, remember who paid for Clemence, N'Gotty, Kishishev, Campbell, Clarke, Fulop... He who pays the piper calls the tune. You've made your mistake Milan. Get it right this time please. All well and good...IF the manager had been foisted upon Mandaric. But he wasn't. By Mandy's own words - the appointment was on the back of an "exhaustive" interview process. Which all indicates that Mandaric doesn't know his arse from a bunch of highly sought after coconuts.
DB11 Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 It is bad timing. He should have done it after the Plymouth game Seriously though, Allen was great. Who else has been sacked? I thought that Damien Doyle etc. were brill
chesterfox Posted 29 August 2007 Posted 29 August 2007 You're genuinely excited again because of Mandaric you ****ing tit. Without him we're back to fighting off relegation again. Everybody needs to take a step back and realise what we were before Mandaric came in, and that we have to take the bad side to his ownership (rash decisions like this) with the good (££££££). The excitement stems from belief and confidence in what was being built and the feeling that at last the club were behaving in a sensible way instead of pandering to a man with ££££££. So do yourself a favour stick to your opinion without reverting to insults or telling me what mine is.
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