termite111 Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 Holloway said: "If they don't give me it, I'll have to change them. I have told them that and I can still get some new players in on loan. Maybe that is what I will have to do."We have to face up to where we are in the table. We had a chance to move away from 20th and we didn't take it. "I asked them to step up to the plate. We are in a battle and if they can't cope with it, then there could be more signings because I am not standing for this. the merc This is what the club has been screaming out for ever since relegation back into the championship. This man talks more sense than most of our fickle supporters. Previous managers have always backed the players in front of the media and been nice guys and thats not worked in the past so somats gotta change!! i for one am glad he blasts the players in public they may actually sit up and take notice that there not invincible for the chop or even a transfer ( take note fryatt you mardy arse ) . lets hope it's a kick up the arse to them all cause if they don't take notice of ollies comments and try harder and with pride then they can pi** off to another club cause i certainly don't want to see them in a leicester shirt and NEITHER SHOULD YOU!!!!!! For once we have a decent manager in charge than is proven of turning things round we at least in my opinion should give him till 3-4 months of next season when he can carry on getting rid of the rubbish thats accumilated over the past 3-4 years. and to all the people that booed at half time sat take a backseat for once and pack it in it's because of you boo boys we are in this predicament.
Chimp Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I would have also have liked to hear him say that he'd made mistakes as well. That his insistence on playing Hayles, his insistence of putting Hume on the wing, his bizarre substitutions, his clueless advocacy of hoof-ball tactics... this is as much to do with our failures than any individuals players. I want Ollie to succeed at this club, but passing the buck like this in the media just stinks.
Head Honcho Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 ..................but there comes a point when he has to stand up and be counted too. It's still not his team I admit but Saturdays performance was no better then some of the worst performances we put in under Levein and Kelly.
l444ry Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 It's one thing threatening the players but what is his motive in announcing this supreme piece of man management to the world? He should keep his trap shut and just do it if that's what he thinks needs doing. You can only use this tactic once and he's done this twice already. The players will just stop listening to him altogether. They certainly won't trust him because it's obvious he's trying to blame the world and his wife for his own failings......
DB11 Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 Or it just further increases the already declining morale within the team?
Messi Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 Well Done Ollie just hope you live up to your word now Some Knobs on saturday started chanting 'ollie shagged your wife, ollie,ollie...' i find that quite disrespectful because isnt ollies wife ill with cancer or something??
Thracian Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 This is what the club has been screaming out for ever since relegation back into the championship. This man talks more sense than most of our fickle supporters. Previous managers have always backed the players in front of the media and been nice guys and thats not worked in the past so somats gotta change!! i for one am glad he blasts the players in public they may actually sit up and take notice that there not invincible for the chop or even a transfer ( take note fryatt you mardy arse ) . lets hope it's a kick up the arse to them all cause if they don't take notice of ollies comments and try harder and with pride then they can pi** off to another club cause i certainly don't want to see them in a leicester shirt and NEITHER SHOULD YOU!!!!!! For once we have a decent manager in charge than is proven of turning things round we at least in my opinion should give him till 3-4 months of next season when he can carry on getting rid of the rubbish thats accumilated over the past 3-4 years. and to all the people that booed at half time sat take a backseat for once and pack it in it's because of you boo boys we are in this predicament. Holloway's acting like the boy who called "wolf" so often that in the end no-one took any notice of him. That's not good management. Nor have our results been anything but close to bottom of the class. As for saying the boo boys are to blame, nonsense. I'm not inclined to boo but even if I was I'd be way past bothering now. City's fans wouldn't boo a winning team or even a team which got at the opposition and created some havoc in the enemy's penalty area. But we're having stats like three shots on target per game. The FoxesTalk Over 21's would manage that. If supermarkets served shit flavoured soup there'd soon be complaints. And that's what City are serving up and I'm just surprised so many people have been prepared to swallow it for this long. As for Holloway he's snookered himself. He's left himself short of options and is reduced to effectively begging his Chosen Men to help him out. Cos bringing quality loanees in won't be easy and any mug will be able to see that. We've already lost a good few that we wanted and we'll doubtless lose some more because Milan's money might be attractive but City's position is not. So who is Holloway kidding? And given that he'll mostly have to stick with what he's got I'd say it's wise that he keep them onside. Threatening people is never a bright option. Indeed it is not something I'd ever do. If Holloway wants to do something, he should do it and the first thing anyone should know about it is after it's happened. Especially where new signings are concerned. PS: I hadn't read L444ry's comment before I wrote this. Quite independently he sees Holloway's remarks similarly flawed.
ronnup Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 HE fooked up too. Didn't mention that too much. Old man Hayles shouldn't even be on the bench. Tit.
Darkzzz_ Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 When i heard certain people Booing on Saturday, i looked around for a moment as i was convinced i was surrounded by Newcastle fans!
maddog Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 Its all TALK Holloway has proved already massively, he is a contradicting hypocrit. He talks a load of crap.
Guest Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 i for one am glad he blasts the players in public and to all the people that booed at half time sat take a backseat for once and pack it in it's because of you boo boys we are in this predicament. So, on the one hand, the manager can have a go at demoralising the squad in public, but the fans can't?
Nationwider Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I think he ought to operate behind closed doors a bit more. A month of nil press activity might do him, the team and the fans some good.
Babylon Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I think he ought to operate behind closed doors a bit more. A month of nil press activity might do him, the team and the fans some good. I don't think he can win. If he didn't say anything except "we will double our efforts" like Kelly, he'd get slaughtered for that. When we had Kelly many people wanted someone to speak their mind, whether it was good or bad. We have that now!!
Daggers Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 Maybe that is what I will have to do. No Holloway! No! There's no ****ing 'maybe' about it...we needed more players during the transfer window and we haven't stopped needing them just because MM called a halt on the spending. Or it just further increases the already declining morale within the team? This month has been a revelation - Danny boy is increasingly posting stuff I agree with/entertains me. I remain convinced db11 is in fact a 43yr old pipe fitter from Harborough.
Nationwider Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I don't think he can win. If he didn't say anything except "we will double our efforts" like Kelly, he'd get slaughtered for that. When we had Kelly many people wanted someone to speak their mind, whether it was good or bad. We have that now!! I thought that as I was typing. It's almost expected that the manager will transmit his every thought to the punters these days. I'm not sure airing his dirty laundry in public is a good policy right now. He's got a few good players seriously out of form, some youngsters, and a few 30-somethings here for the paycheck with no prospect of seeing the Premiership again. I'm not convinced his man-management at the moment is that good considering. I'd love to know what morale's like at the moment, because I think our season might hinge on it as we're no better or worse than anyone else on paper.
Simi Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I've not got a problem with Holloway openly criticizing what's going on with the team. But a lot that has gone on lately has been down to him making mistakes of his own. If he can't, or won't admit these himself, that's when real problems start to occur. Although I hope Ollie would have it in him to accept when he is wrong.
filbertway Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I would have also have liked to hear him say that he'd made mistakes as well.That his insistence on playing Hayles, his insistence of putting Hume on the wing, his bizarre substitutions, his clueless advocacy of hoof-ball tactics... this is as much to do with our failures than any individuals players. I want Ollie to succeed at this club, but passing the buck like this in the media just stinks. I don't get what's wrong with Hayles up front and Hume on the wing.
Guest Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I don't get what's wrong with Hayles up front and Hume on the wing. i would've said that Saturday was pretty much indicative of the fact that Hume shouldn't play on the wing unless there is no alternative, and teaming Hayles up with Howard up front from the start only encouraged a one-dimensional hoofing of the ball to two big strikers.
lildave3 Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 I don't get what's wrong with Hayles up front and Hume on the wing. Seriously? Was your TV broke on Saturday?
Shrenchel Posted 11 February 2008 Posted 11 February 2008 The old 'you're playing shit, your job is on the line' routine works well on some and affects others badly. I just hope he thought carefully about how the players are going to react to this and didn't just spray it in a fit of rage. The fact is there were probably 2 players who put in a decent performance on Saturday, if this only serves to further lower the morale of the team then good luck to him getting 9 quality loanees in.
FilboFox Posted 12 February 2008 Posted 12 February 2008 We are only 11 points off the Play-Offs! COME ON CITY!!! We can still make it... I BELIEVE!!!
ozleicester Posted 12 February 2008 Posted 12 February 2008 Is there one player in the current squad, that will be a regular starter when we get promoted? no? thats why we arent getting promoted this year! New players needed, players that are on the edge of premiership quality that through good management will go on to become quality premiership players. A combination of experience and youth (and perhaps we do have 1 or 2 young players that may make it). i dont think that Ollie had a particualrly sucessful transfer period and he will need to do much beter come summer, assuming we are still in the Champ. What i havent heard from anyone is...does Ollie develop the youngsters?, does he bring them on and turn them into quality players? the old blokes can and are valuable..but in the main should be able to look after themselves and follow instructions. Buy players that wil see us into the premiership and beyond.
barmy76uk Posted 12 February 2008 Posted 12 February 2008 Time for Holloway to go,hes done nothing but upset the players,he promised that players wouldn't play out of position but whats he doing? Aslong as Hayles and Howard are playing hes happy,shame they are both garbage slow and past it! Hume and DJ upfront,get max back on the right wing and Levi on the left!
eaststandtom Posted 12 February 2008 Posted 12 February 2008 sacking the manager solves nothing he needs the players to prove to him that they are worthy of a starting place and one in their position. i was all for hume playing right wing but, i take it back now i hold me hands up and say i was wrong, it has been experimented with for too long and not worked to what i reckon it should have. the cov game was great cos we had hume buzzing off howard. we need hume or dj for this role so i think ollie is getting this wrong. tbf to ollie though he did say that hayles and howard were bought not toplay together. hayles can be used as an impact sub and dj, hume and fryatt(if he ever gets his act together) can play upfront. dj and hume would be a poor strikeforce cos there is no strength or balance. we need a big man and were crying out for one until howard came. he has made a difference but had a quiet game on saturday because the defender dominated him. think we have to take hats off to their defenders for keeping him quiet. howard didnt have a great game but the argyle defence was good on saturday which is why having hume on the wing made it easier for them. ollie is big on square pegs and round holes which is why it is all the more confusing when hayles is on the left wing and hume is on the right so that natural width we had against cov has been lost. quite strange. i dont think a couple of defeats makes much difference though. holloway needs time to soft through the wreckage of this season and work out who is good enoug, who can play in what format and decide whats best. some guys need to go and some of them will be players who we 'like' but i think we will benefit from some ruthless decisions to ensure we have players playing who arent chancers but please ollie dont be like levein. talking a decent game but making it hard for yourself by the decisions that you are making
The People's Hero Posted 12 February 2008 Posted 12 February 2008 Why shouldn't be criticise them? I doubt it's hurting their feelings and their professional pride should be a bit knocked - they're not producing. If that doesn't motivate them to prove him wrong, they might as well hang up their boots. Wan kers.
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