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England v France - Match Thread

By Matt, in General Football and Sport

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lildave3

lildave3

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2 holding midfielders in the same team, playing as holding midfielders. Wrong, wrong wrong.

Also, Rooney needs to be dropped. He is'nt the goalscorer we need. He comes looking for the ball instead of staying up top, and unbalances the teams shape.

Defoe/Ashton and Owen up top.

So glad i watched the apprentice instead.

That just means you can't play him on his own up front. Defoe and Owen up front? :nono:

The Reverend

The Reverend

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That just means you can't play him on his own up front. Defoe and Owen up front? :nono:

We need pace Mr. Dave. And if we're going to play football as Mr. Fabio says, then i dont see why a Defoe/Owen partnership couldnt work. At least it would be something different to the same shite that we've been served up for as long as i can remember.

lildave3

lildave3

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We need pace Mr. Dave. And if we're going to play football as Mr. Fabio says, then i dont see why a Defoe/Owen partnership couldnt work. At least it would be something different to the same shite that we've been served up for as long as i can remember.

Rooney has pace.

Owen and Defoe are all too similiar for my liking, plus I still don't think he's good enough. Love to see Ashton get a chance though.

The Reverend

The Reverend

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Rooney has pace.

Owen and Defoe are all too similiar for my liking, plus I still don't think he's good enough. Love to see Ashton get a chance though.

Yeah Rooney has pace, but it aint Owen or Defoe pace. I think we need 2 who genuinely scare the opposition with their pace.

Crouch in lol

Bert

Bert

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Yeah Rooney has pace, but it aint Owen or Defoe pace. I think we need 2 who genuinely scare the opposition with their pace.

Crouch in lol

Exactly, just look at what Anelka done.

Finnegan

Finnegan

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Laugh all you want, I've seen a Bellamy Earnshaw partnership really scare the life out of decent defenses, you just have to play the right game which Capello won't.

I don't see how Defoe isn't good enough. He hasn't been before for England but he's on great form at the moment. In contrast Owen and Rooney just aren't scoring, Owen's been injured for a shit club all year and Rooney showed the sort of finishing that couldn't even beat Mablo against Liverpool.

Strikers are all about form and confidence and two players playing with both at the moment are Jermaine Defoe and, when he gets a shot, Theo Walcott. Very surprised to see the latter not given at least 20 minutes tonight, truthfully.

I like Crouch, he's something different and he generally does pop up with goals but I'm not sure he was suited to today. Incidentally England's one good attack in the second half started with him holding up, mind.

CKB

CKB

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I had better things to do than watch pointless garbage! infact garbage is probably more entertaining? so i am insulting garbage there, so i would like to take the time right now and apologise to garbage

I HATE FRIENDLIES!!!

C-man

C-man

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And so ends Beckham's international career. Hopefully.

But who have we got who is better than him?

We know Shaun Wright-Phillips isn't the answer and David Bentley? :crylaugh:

End Product?!?!

Father Ted

Father Ted

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2 holding midfielders in the same team, playing as holding midfielders. Wrong, wrong wrong.

Also, Rooney needs to be dropped. He is'nt the goalscorer we need. He comes looking for the ball instead of staying up top, and unbalances the teams shape.

Defoe/Ashton and Owen up top.

So glad i watched the apprentice instead.

Rooney to be dropped :crylaugh: Get real. Every game this season he hasn't played for Man U they have lost. But he shouldn't be playing on his own upfront. And Owen :crylaugh: He's the new Elvis (ankle) - he can't score even if he's 2 yards out.

And you moan about Rooney not being the goalscorer we need, Ashton is no better :rolleyes:

Darkzzz_

Darkzzz_

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We have no answer...There is not many options really for the national team.

Unless we temp Chris Waddle out of retirement, but that 80's mullet can stay in retirement!!

It is a sorry state of affairs but England games bore the hell out of me.... Enough emotion is spent on following Leicester so if i was to spend the same amout of emotion on England then i would prob be six feet under right now!

Verdict: Emotional Torture of the Mind

Ric Flair

Ric Flair

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Capello will get it right. Right now we're a shambles though. We have got to find a dependable striker to rely on for the next few years. Rooney has been absolute garbage for England since Euro 2004 and i'll challenge anyone to argue that successfully. I like what he does at club level, but at international level he's a hinderance at times. I never thought i'd say that either, as I was and still am to a certain extent a massive Rooney fan.

But to play him up front on his own, without support from some very attack minded midfielders is criminal. I know he plays alone sometimes for Man United, but the positions Ronaldo, Nani, Giggs and co take up means that Rooney can drop deep at times, which he simply cannot avoid doing given the nature of his play. When he plays that role for England, we need him to stay as far up the pitch as possible because our midfielders don't have that same understanding with him as his club players do. The amount of times last night that Rooney was off chasing butterflies in Bavaria and the midfielders just weren't in the positions to allow him to get away with that.

We've never successfully been able to play 4-5-1 either, or 4-3-3, which ever way you dress it up. I'm not sure what the solution is right now, but Capello has the credentials to get it sorted.

I'm really struggling to find a dependable striker or two right now for England. I like Crouch at international level, but when he plays it just leads to the defenders hoofing the ball at him and that's never pretty or overly effective against quality opposition. Defoe has never been able to take his club form in to international level when given the chance, neither has Andy Johnson.

Our only hope is that Michael Owen get's properly fit and finds that extra yard of pace again. On form and fit, he's the best striker we have by a country mile at international level. We desperately need some new blood coming through, Agbonlahor is having a tough few months, I hope he progresses to the level needed.

Worrying.

lildave3

lildave3

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But who have we got who is better than him?

We know Shaun Wright-Phillips isn't the answer and David Bentley? :crylaugh:

End Product?!?!

We've got plenty of players better than Beckham.

Beckham who has now decided he wants to play right back all game, launching balls upfield.

Wright-Phillips has popped up with a few goals lately, and done well imo for England. Bentley has been on good form for Blackburn and again I thought he played well against Switzerland.

I can't believe you mentioned the end product being a problem and not named Aaron Lennon though. But hopefully in a few years he'll be the player people think he can be.

Ultra

Ultra

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Bear in mind there are Champions League games next week.

For many of the England team (Terry, Gerrard, Rooney), they took priority over a tinpot friendly.

Yesterday's game offered the two FAs another opportunity to extract money from gullible fans. It told us nothing about what Capello's starting 11 is likely to be in his first competitive game, which isn't for another six months.

Avoid friendlies like the plague.

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