Protestors disrupt soldiers homecoming march

[Dr The Singh]

The old wives who started these religious tales all those 1000's of years ago, have a lot to answer for.

I'm still waiting for my young wife to make me her god!!!

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

No difference to anyone else, if they interupted a pro indian rally with 'death' placards, I would be disgusted and for example if it were the infamous Babbar Khalsa that had organised it and wanted to perpetrate hate, I would want them to be outlawed and banned!!!! But know that you brought it up, even after operation Blue Star, Black Thunder, and the indian genocidal attacks there have never been mass riots or violence against the hindu brethren!!! Anyway this issue is totally different, Sikh and Indian\Hindu roots have a far longer relationship!!!

Sikhs had an issue with radicalism during the late eighties post Sikh genocidal attacks, they would come to sikh temples, spreading radical ideas and ask for recruits, the UK sikh institutes and general Sikh public totally outlawed and banned them. This lead to alot power struggles for Sikh temples and lead to alot of bloodshed, but the Sikhs cleaned there own backyards before they went trying to clean someone else's!!

I have said this before, these morons are a minority, which are staining the majority!!

I have alot of muslim friends, who are absolutely distraught with the government for the war in Iraq, and they have a legitimate grievance, but spouting hate and death against 'anglican buthcers' is not the way. It undermines the general muslim population!!!

The point is, we have been attacked by radical islamist, hence the media will play on it, as stated before newspapers want to sell, hate and fear make good sellers. Radical guys such as Chaudray need to fook off, I bet if he farted near the rally it would be reported!! Other loony protest may happen, but I bet none of those groups have had links to terrorist attrocities that have directly effected us, and one's that would make the headlines!!

You've completely missed my question mate. I asked how would you feel if I, a non sikh, elected or chose your representives, who clearly didnt share your views.At no point did I, or would I ask how you would feel if Sikhs react like that.

[Kilworthfox]

The old wives who started these religious tales all those 1000's of years ago, have a lot to answer for.

Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got seriously out of hand

[Koke]

I just love the "If they don't like our country, then go home" brigade. They always come crawling out on these occasions and the papers, as per usual, milk it to the max.

[Guest]

I just love the "If they don't like our country, then go home" brigade. They always come crawling out on these occasions and the papers, as per usual, milk it to the max.

I would like to know where the protesters who were born and bred in the UK should go to.

[Corky]

I'm still waiting for my young wife to make me her god!!!

What about your old wife?

[Koke]

I would like to know where the protesters who were born and bred in the UK should go to.

I've asked many times but never received an answer to that question, because there isn't an answer to it.

My spiritual home is Wolverhampton.

[Corky]

I would like to know where the protesters who were born and bred in the UK should go to.

Er, um, not sure

[Raj]

"But as the procession of 200 soldiers approached the Town Hall, a band of about 20 men in Islamic dress, carrying placards labelling the soldiers 'war criminals', began shouting at the parade"

Mr Houdidn may have alot of insight in these matters and may well be right to call me uneducated,racist and so forth.

However the fact that a measly 20 odd turned up to protest sums it up when Luton has a high population of muslims.

Obviously the MAJORITY of them are decent enough not to be brainwashed into such shite.

We all know the war was unjust and wrong and should never have gone ahead.

It was only for the OIL.

If the atrocities that sadam had done were in a region rich in bananas no one would give a fcuk.

But for the likes of choudray,cleric Abu Hamza etc...to preach hatred against other factions of the community is just plain wrong.

Im sure someone alot more educated will put me right.

After all im only a working class paki who should fcuk off to his own country!!!!....

[BoneDog]

I personally know at least 20 Muslims and every one of 'em is sound as a pound. Just like all the other good people I know.

I know Pakistani Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims, a Chinese Muslim, 3 white English Muslims, 2 black English Muslims, 1 Jamaican/English Muslim and even a Mexican Muslim who moved to Leicester from Mexico. They are all some of the kindest, friendliest people I've ever met and thay are all proper Muslims who follow their religion.

[BigGibbo]

Eight pages of dribble all over some misplaced anger! Get a grip.

[Guest]

My spiritual home is Wolverhampton.

I believe that they are forming an anti-Stearman protest; looks like the love didn't last there

[Dr The Singh]

You've completely missed my question mate. I asked how would you feel if I, a non sikh, elected or chose your representives, who clearly didnt share your views.At no point did I, or would I ask how you would feel if Sikhs react like that.

In the punjab, it happens all the time, i've learned to live with it, but those who it directly effects have no real choice they chose to ignore and concentrate on there own lives!!!!

[BoneDog]

In the punjab, it happens all the time, i've learned to live with it, but those who it directly effects have no real choice they chose to ignore and concentrate on there own lives!!!!

That's exactly what most Muslims have to do. They have folk thrust into the media who are supposed to be representing them. But all these folks/organisations do is cause trouble or hatred towards real Muslims.

Where is the Punjab by the way cos I just read something about the Pakistan government supressing some demonstrations there and even changing the leaders of that area I think?

[Babylon]

Have we not ejected everyone darker than off white from the country yet?

[Daggers]

Sir Fynwy has been off in Europe this week - that makes him foreign now, in my book, get him out!

[Finnegan]

Sir Fynwy has been off in Europe this week - that makes him foreign now, in my book, get him out!

Plus, that name is clearly some sort of foreign shit.

[Guest]

Sir Fynwy has been off in Europe this week - that makes him foreign now, in my book, get him out!

Plus, that name is clearly some sort of foreign shit.

Do I get to keep the house? And the cars?

[Finnegan]

Do I get to keep the house? And the cars?

We don't know what sort of shit he's been brainwashing you with. You'll have to go too, sympathiser.

[Corky]

Do I get to keep the house? And the cars?

When you become a solicitor you'll find out

[Guest]

We don't know what sort of shit he's been brainwashing you with. You'll have to go too, sympathiser.

Me? Sympathise with him? Do you know how long we've been married?

When you become a solicitor you'll find out

<_<

[Thracian]

It's about principles rather than numbers.

No matter how many take part, such excuses for mindless jingoism cannot be justified - particularly when they give scummy tabloids the chance to brand ALL British Muslims as "the enemy within".

What or whose principles are they?

If you were a soldier, a member of a solidier's family, a person who understands the dangers soldiers face and the risks they take on behalf of this country and even the unworthy liars who set them up by sending them out to fight an unwise, unnecessary and unwinable war (your Party's people I might add) then I wouldn't call it mindless jingoism at all.

I'd call it a celebration in thanks for their mostly safe return, a public "well done" for the horrors those young men and women have witnessed, perhaps even suffered, the colleagues they've seen blown to pieces, the awful conditions they've had to work under on our government's behalf a lot of miles and a whole world away, philosophically, from the relative safety of their homes.

And I would say that people like you should be out there with them paying your own respects. And doing so with the greatest humility.

I've mentioned how anti-white and anti-English the Labour Party is on many occasions and your stance on this issue only emphasises my point in capital letters.

You effectively mock patriotism because it might offend people who come from distant lands and you would seem to wish to deny a public thankyou to young men who have taken the ultimate risk to fulfil YOUR party's bidding.

How much more would you not allow to satisfy the sensitivities of people who (quite understandably) would not seek to praise our soldiers at all? This is Labour all over. If they don't like it or someone disagrees with it, disallow it or hide it away. Sod people's freedoms and sod democracy. Let's compromise ourselves and let's change OUR ways.

Let me repeat. It was YOUR people sent those young men to war. Not THEY who specifically wanted to go.

They are not fighting for a cause they are simply doing their jobs, following their orders. But, some teens and 20s have lost their lives because of YOUR party's disgraceful and in my view illegal sleight of hand in taking us to war. Some have been maimed and crippled permanently because of Tony Blair's misguided bullshit.

And you say let's deny those soldiers their public moments of appreciation and you have the gall to insultingly dismiss it all as jingoism.

I too have my concerns about these marches. But they have sod all to do with wishing to compromise the freedoms of my country. It is simply to do with the safety of those soldiers.

Because I cannot imagine a more obvious target for fanatics than a line of what the protesters see as "enemies" walking vulnerably between lines of public supporters. It is a tragedy waiting to happen.

As for the antoganists directing their vitriol at our soldiers they should perhaps consider what a tolerant country it is that allows them to do that and wonder whether English people would be tolerated doing the same thing where they come from.

But they won't think like that at all because it is not the Muslim way of thinking. Fundamentalist thinking is not along the lines of what is fair. It is along the lines of what is right according to Islam.

Compromise really doesn't come into it. Sometimes, despite your sensitivity towards Muslim views I wonder if you understand Muslim philosophy at all.

[Ultra]

And who do you think is organising and orchestrating these homecoming parades?

The same government that sent the troops to Iraq and Afghanistan in the first places, and who now want to glamorise the armed forces as "heroes" in an effort to increase recruitment.

For personal reasons too detailed to post on here, I'd never advise anyone to sign up. I know how the British state behaves with incredible and sickening contempt towards its own, let alone folk of other lands.

Meanwhile the media's racial hypocrisy is illustrated by the events at Millwall yesterday, in which up to 150 yobs were alleged to have been involved in running battles with police in disturbances which led to five arrests.

But will Millwall be denounced on tabloid front pages as "the enemy within"? Will their thuggish followers be branded as "unBritish"?

I think we all know the answer to those questions.

[l444ry]

True story

An incident occurred in a supermarket recently, when the following was witnessed: A Muslim woman dressed in a Burkha (a black gown and face mask) was standing with her shopping in a queue at the checkout. When it was her turn to be served, as she reached the cashier, she made a loud remark about the English Flag lapel pin which the female cashier was wearing on her blouse.

The cashier reached up and touched the pin and said, "Yes, I always wear it proudly. My son serves abroad with the forces and I wear it for him."

The Muslim woman then asked the cashier when she was going to stop bombing and killing her countrymen, explaining that she was Iraqi.

At that point, a gentleman standing in the queue stepped forward and interrupted with a calm and gentle voice: "Excuse me, but hundreds of thousands of men and women, just like this lady's son, have fought and sacrificed their lives so that people just like YOU can stand here in England, which is MY country, and allow you to blatantly accuse an innocent check-out cashier of bombing YOUR countrymen.

"It is my belief that if you were allowed to be as outspoken as that in Iraq, which you claim to be YOUR country, then we wouldn't need to be fighting there today. However, now that you have learned how to speak out and criticise the English people who have afforded you the protection of MY country, I will gladly pay the cost of a ticket to help you pay your way back to Iraq. When you get there, and if you manage to survive for being as outspoken as you are here in England, then you should be able to help straighten out the mess which YOUR Iraqi countrymen have got you into in the first place, which appears to be what you have come to MY country to avoid."

Apparently the queue cheered and applauded.

[Thracian]

And who do you think is organising and orchestrating these homecoming parades?

The same government that sent the troops to Iraq and Afghanistan in the first places, and who now want to glamorise the armed forces as "heroes" in an effort to increase recruitment.

For personal reasons too detailed to post on here, I'd never advise anyone to sign up. I know how the British state behaves with incredible and sickening contempt towards its own, let alone folk of other lands.

Meanwhile the media's racial hypocrisy is illustrated by the events at Millwall yesterday, in which up to 150 yobs were alleged to have been involved in running battles with police in disturbances which led to five arrests.

But will Millwall be denounced on tabloid front pages as "the enemy within"? Will their thuggish followers be branded as "unBritish"?

I think we all know the answer to those questions.

I don't know about the tabloids but I don't see many people on here excusing Millwall's morons and that includes me.

The game would be better off without them and so would Millwall football club judging by the amount of money those louts must be costing em.